Recruiting Football Talk VIII

[knoxvol52]

the deacon?

Rick Barnes...you know the Tennessee Vols Men's Head Coach.

 

[Orange.]

Question is, if a loss in Championship is your 3rd loss, what happens?

No one knows. It's a defect in the system but the championship games are giantic moneymakers for the conferences. Even a championship loser with it's 2rd loss, if they got in, would play one more game than every other team and be the only team without a bye. Same for a loser with a 1st loss.

There is also the chance that the winner would have to beat the loser for a second time in the same playoff series. The loser thus becomes the only team with a double-elimination privilege, and the winner the only team required to beat the same playoff opponent twice.

Some speculate that the SEC and Big 10 will push for inclusion of conference title game losers to avoid pressure to end the conference title games. I think the Big 10 surely will do that; they don't have the depth to get even the four teams they are bogusly promoting included on the merits, much have a fifth playoff team on their bench. Of course the Big 10's scheduling is so rigged that, who knows, they may have a filler team in one championship game bracket. I haven't checked this year, but I have observed it in the past.

I myself don't really care about the team we eliminate in Atlanta. @

 

[Jackcrevol]

Rick Barnes...you know the Tennessee Vols Men's Head Coach.

never heard that nickname. I like it

 

[knoxvol52]

No one knows. It's a defect in the system but the championship games are giantic moneymakers for the conferences. Even a championship loser with it's 2rd loss, if they got in, would play one more game than every other team and be the only team without a bye. Same for a loser with a 1st loss. There is also the chance that the winner would have to beat the loser for a second time in the same playoff seriea; the loser thus becoming the only team with a double-elimination privilege.

Some speculate that the SEC and Big 10 will push for conference title game losers to make the playoffs to avoid calls to end the games. I think the Big 10 surely will, they don't have the depth to get the four teams they are bogusly promoting, much a fifth on the bench.

I myself don't really care about the team we eliminate in Athens.

There's a few individuals clamoring for 5 SEC teams, while I clamor for just one SEC team to make it into the CFP. That would be the Tennessee Volunteers and screw the rest of the SEC.

 

[knoxvol52]

I believe if a undefeated BYU loses the Big 12 Championship game to a Colorado per say. Then both the Big 12 teams get in, there not kicking a #3 undefeated BYU team down that far for just losing 1 game. That just means the Group of 5 entre will receive a bye. Imo.

 

[UTSuave’]

HAAAAAA!…f*** you

 

[Orange.]

the deacon?

hhhhwwwwaaaatttt?

 

[knoxvol52]

When Tennessee wins Saturday that will assure them of a spot in CFP playoffs unless a slip up vs Vanderbilt happens. By chance if Tennessee loses to Georgia it will be a uphill battle, the Committee isn't going to respect kicking the **** out of a 2-8 UTEP team and a 6-5 Vanderbilt team.

 

[Aesius]

When Tennessee wins Saturday that will assure them of a spot in CFP playoffs unless a slip up vs Vanderbilt happens. By chance Tennessee loses to Georgia it will be a uphill battle, the Committee isn't going to respect kicking the **** out if a 2-8 UTEP team and a 6-5 Vanderbilt team.

Committee won't give Vols any respect for beating Vandy but will consider Bama's loss to Vandy a good loss.

 

[Orange.]

There's a few individuals clamoring for 5 SEC teams, while I clamor for just one SEC team to make it into the CFP. That would be the Tennessee Volunteers and screw the rest of the SEC.

I feel ya, 52!

OTOH, it is a dilemma. A bunch of teams from our league winning playoff games might advance one of our bubble teams in the future and one year that could be us. And it would almost surely increase our strength of schedule metric next year, which helps us.

That said, F them all. F Everybody but us.

 

[Lloyd_Christmas]

I feel ya, 52!

OTOH, it is a dilemma. A bunch of teams from our league winning playoff games might advance one of our bubble teams in the future and one year that could be us. And it would almost surely increase our strength of schedule metric next year, which helps us.

That said, F them all. F Everybody but us.

Tennessee vs The World

 

[Orange.]

When Tennessee wins Saturday that will assure them of a spot in CFP playoffs unless a slip up vs Vanderbilt happens. By chance if Tennessee loses to Georgia it will be a uphill battle, the Committee isn't going to respect kicking the **** out of a 2-8 UTEP team and a 6-5 Vanderbilt team.

At the same time, Bama's loss to Vandy would still be a "good" loss. And Bama's loss to us would still be committee-impressing "qualifying" win. (I see Aesius already nail this.)

Conclusion: Win. And win. And keep winning.

 

[screenthis]

Need Hulu+Live TV.

This is what I have but may need another option. HULU keeps jacking up their rates.

 

[#Vol4Life1991]

This is what I have but may need another option. HULU keeps jacking up their rates.

I moved to youtube tv a while ago for that very reason.

 

[Orange.]

When Tennessee wins Saturday that will assure them of a spot in CFP playoffs unless a slip up vs Vanderbilt happens. By chance if Tennessee loses to Georgia it will be a uphill battle, the Committee isn't going to respect kicking the **** out of a 2-8 UTEP team and a 6-5 Vanderbilt team.

As for Vandy, we are sht stomping those jerks. We're not losing at Vandy like the weak-ass Bama did.

 

[Orange.]

Very complimentary of the corners and tight ends. Spoke over and over again about he'd like to hear how they are coaching these tight ends. Pretty cool considering the heat Abelin drew and how little time he's had with some.

I love CBs and am so happy that we have great corners. It's been way way too long. I hope our recruiting keeps rolling. TEs, too. I just saying I like to watch great corners do their thing out on their island.

 

[SpringBokVol]

I think both Texas and BYU lose this weekend.

oh, and Georgia!!!! ha ha ha ha ha ha

 

[peaygolf]

If Indianna played Tennessee's schedule they would would lose six or seven games. The worst SEC team would be in top tier of the L10.

Never said anything different

 

[SpringBokVol]

Stormtroopers - expected nothing less!

 

[Orange.]

It’s their first time playing a real schedule and they want to be sure everyone hears about it.

This. F Georgia.

 

[peaygolf]

November 14, 1998

UT - 28
Arkansas - 24

The #10 Arkansas Razorbacks came to Knoxville to face the #1 ranked Vols. Arkansas raced out to a 21-10 halftime lead, that stunned the 106,000 fans. Traded field goals and a Tee Martin td run made the score 24-20.

For twelve minutes, neither team could score. Deon Grant blocked a FG attempt, but UT couldn’t muster points. With 2:54 seconds left, Arkansas attempted a punt, but a high snap led to a safety. Down two, UT couldn’t move the ball and turned the ball over on downs with less than 2 minuets left. Then.....the miracle happened. Clint Stoerner stumbled, then laid the ball on the ground, allowing Billy Ratliff to recover the ball on the Hogs 43 yrd line. Travis Henry took over, running 5 straight times and scoring with 31 seconds left, giving the Vols a 28-24 victory. Henry finished with 32 carries for 197 yrds and 1 huge touchdown!

 

[Orange.]

Tennessee vs The World

F yes!

 

[TheMookieMonster]

So I see that Knecht once again proved he's better than Edey last night

I’ll be honest, I’m the biggest Edey hater in the world, and so far he’s had a better season than Knecht. Some of that is just because he’s getting more consistent playing time than DK is though. I don’t think last night proved anything either way.

 

[Orange.]

I found and posted the clip of Lebron talking about DK.

 

[Aesius]

November 14, 1998

UT - 28
Arkansas - 24

The #10 Arkansas Razorbacks came to Knoxville to face the #1 ranked Vols. Arkansas raced out to a 21-10 halftime lead, that stunned the 106,000 fans. Traded field goals and a Tee Martin td run made the score 24-20.

For twelve minutes, neither team could score. Deon Grant blocked a FG attempt, but UT couldn’t muster points. With 2:54 seconds left, Arkansas attempted a punt, but a high snap led to a safety. Down two, UT couldn’t move the ball and turned the ball over on downs with less than 2 minuets left. Then.....the miracle happened. Clint Stoerner stumbled, then laid the ball on the ground, allowing Billy Ratliff to recover the ball on the Hogs 43 yrd line. Travis Henry took over, running 5 straight times and scoring with 31 seconds left, giving the Vols a 28-24 victory. Henry finished with 32 carries for 197 yrds and 1 huge touchdown!

If this had happened 20 years later during the social media era, it would be one of the most memorable plays/college football moments of all time (it already is for Tennessee fans but isn't super well-known outside of this fanbase).

Look at how iconic the Michigan "Whoa! He has trouble with the snap!" moment is, but at least a major mistake like that was always a possibility on a punt play. But to just randomly fall down and lose the football like that? And when you're running out the clock to win? It's unfathomable. I still can't believe this happened.