Recruiting Football Talk VIII

[peaygolf]

He’s not going anywhere this year or next, and nor should he. But if he goes 8-4 or 7-5 next year, which is absolutely possible, no way he enters 2026 without being on the hot seat.

And yes, I agree. There needs to be some massive staffing overhaul after this season.

Huepel is going to be on the hotseat man.

 

[drylo]

That’s actually the problem in this case.

There’s no knee jerk reaction.
Georgia clearly knows how to use defenders like him, and will always stop Heupels offense. (As it is right now)

Unless Heupel gets some help with strategy- Gass, Hayward, Harmon, Smith will all lose to UGA every year they are here .

That’s a ridiculous overreaction. Heupel has played Kirby 4x. Kirby has had a roster advantage every time, though the gap is narrowing. Vastly overmatched in 2021. 2022 and 2024 were competitive in Athens.

 

[chavisut]

BYU losing really has zero effect on Tennessee’s playoff chances

It almost guarantees the Big12 only gets one team in. An undefeated BYU losing to Colorado possibly still gets in.

 

[PKT_VOL]

We are still in our Clemson 2009-2014 phase.

Need to keep stacking 10 win seasons to reach the next level as a program.

Correct and stacking talent. There was still a sizable talent gap between us but that is closing with each year.

What I find quite humorous is the chicklittle attitude from many on this board vs the clear-eyed UGA fans I was watching with. UT and Heupel scare the **** out of them more than any other team and they realize it is only a matter of time before the series flips.

 

[Jackcrevol]

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Please see my post again, princess.

My mangina may be curtainish in all its ways. But, Huepel aint going anywhere.

 

[VolNRaleighNC]

He’s not going anywhere this year or next, and nor should he. But if he goes 8-4 or 7-5 next year, which is absolutely possible, no way he enters 2026 without being on the hot seat.

And yes, I agree. There needs to be some massive staffing overhaul after this season.

I like Heupel but his ceiling is Mark Richt. I know many here will take that and call it a day over the last 20 years of the program. To each their own. Sadly I am starting to buy his offense is a gimmick. It’s already been figured out by the elite coaches that he has to beat and has shown that he can’t make the necessary in game adjustments. I think this style of offense has a shelf life of 2-3 years at this elite level.

I’m not calling for his firing but he will have to cut Elarbee and Halzle if he wants to take a step forward. If there is an upgrade for Pope then take it. If Banks goes, and I’m assuming he will, he needs to retain Chop if at all possible. I wouldn’t be mad if Banks chose to take CWM with him either.

 

[R0CKYT0P 16]

He’s not going anywhere this year or next, and nor should he. But if he goes 8-4 or 7-5 next year, which is absolutely possible, no way he enters 2026 without being on the hot seat.

And yes, I agree. There needs to be some massive staffing overhaul after this season.

Josh Heupel could go 8-4 next year and his seat would be cooler than an ocean breeze going into 2026. Staff changed need to happen ASAP. But a Josh Heupel ain’t the change that’s needed.

 

[BigOrange15]

Hot seat and firing assistants talk is crazy right now. About to be 10-2 and if we are left out of the playoff it’s because of media narratives. We are a really good team in a very difficult SEC.

Maybe in 10 years like UGA did Mark Richt but to even consider doing anything but extending Heupel on his next contract, after he's taken us to where we are now vs where we were in this amount of time is just...idk what. Beyond stupidity.

 

[InVOLuntary]

#’s say it’s a championship level defense but the O is not. Better O helps the D, always been that way

It was like water through a screen door. We offered little to no resistance after the 1st 3 drives.

 

[Rishvol]

He’s pissed, and should be.

And how many turnovers were "overturned"? Guys Georgia doesn't beat Tennessee without the refs. I know the CFP will put Tennessee at 13 but Georgia didn't win. The refs and SEC did

 

[Jackcrevol]

Maybe in 10 years like UGA did Mark Richt but to even consider doing anything but extending Heupel on his next contract, after he's taken us to where we are now vs where we were in this amount of time is just...idk what. Beyond stupidity.

Hondo

 

[Jackcrevol]

And how many turnovers were "overturned"? Guys Georgia doesn't beat Tennessee without the refs. I know the CFP will put Tennessee at 13 but Georgia didn't win. The refs and SEC did

Yeah that was really weird.

 

[peaygolf]

Please see my post again, princess.

My mangina may be curtainish in all its ways. But, Huepel aint going anywhere.

I saw it before it said NOT..........oooops

 

[Jackcrevol]

I saw it before it said NOT..........oooops

it did. not sure hwat happened. I know ive had some hot takes since yesterday. but that would be ridiculous.

 

[Rishvol]

HAHAHAHAAHAHA..love Josh when he’s pissed..he knows…we all know

This is why I'm not blaming coaches. There was NOTHING Tennessee could've done last night to win

 

[R0CKYT0P 16]

The offensive scheme will not change. But someone new needs the keys to this offense. Ever since Joey Halze took over. There is no vertical passing game. If we throw it over the middle, it’s a five yard slant. We stopped attacking the middle of the field the day Golesch left. Everything is short and near the sidelines.

 

[peaygolf]

 

[Aesius]

Josh Heupel could go 8-4 next year and his seat would be cooler than an ocean breeze going into 2026. Staff changed need to happen ASAP. But a Josh Heupel ain’t the change that’s needed.

Be very careful what you wish for on staff changes. We’ve been burned by that move countless times.

 

[PKT_VOL]

I like Heupel but his ceiling is Mark Richt. I know many here will take that and call it a day over the last 20 years of the program. To each their own. Sadly I am starting to buy his offense is a gimmick. It’s already been figured out by the elite coaches that he has to beat and has shown that he can’t make the necessary in game adjustments. I think this style of offense has a shelf life of 2-3 years at this elite level.

I’m not calling for his firing but he will have to cut Elarbee and Halzle if he wants to take a step forward. If there is an upgrade for Pope then take it. If Banks goes, and I’m assuming he will, he needs to retain Chop if at all possible. I wouldn’t be mad if Banks chose to take CWM either him.

You have it completely backwards.

The offensive woes the past two seasons have been personnel related (depending on the player/position: experience, talent, or depth) vs the scheme.

If anything, the scheme has kept us in games in which the individual or position group performance would have otherwise dictated an uncompetitive loss.

 

[Jackcrevol]

The offensive scheme will not change. But someone new needs the keys to this offense. Ever since Joey Halze took over. There is no vertical passing game. If we throw it over the middle, it’s a five yard slant. We stopped attacking the middle of the field the day Golesch left. Everything is short and near the sidelines.

Even VQ guys pointed out, we find something that works, then go completely away from it. I 100% agree here.

Look USF isnt world beaters, but Golesh gets his guys ready for tempo, and the playbook is open. Its truly fun to watch. Different looks, movement, using PA...creativity.

No one can tell me the offense has gotten better. In fact, would argue its gotten worse since first game. More of an indictment, there is no adjustment to what defense is doing.

Backing out the FCS games, I wonder what our PPG would be.

 

[OGbabyaviVol]

Some of y’all need to sack up! Hated how soft we looked after the first quarter, hated our defensive game plan, and hated that we did not lean on our running game that was effective in the fourth quarter. However, in our fourth year after wondering in the wilderness for almost 15 years, Heupel has us 8–2 and still in the playoff hunt. In hindsight, going into Georgia at night last night with them having two losses was a monstrous task. I felt like we sensed when the calls started going against us in the second quarter, that we knew the SEC was going to do everything possible to prevent Georgia from losing a third game. The game seemed to be called pretty evenly in the first quarter. We need to flush this game, and be mad the next two weeks. Don’t give anything to chance, and certainly don’t let the SEC send one of their crony refereeing Crews to Vanderbilt and try to put them in position to give us a third loss.Be aggressive, and go obliterate our next two opponents. If we do that, I still think we have a better résumé than at least three of the SEC teams that will be in front of us on Tuesday night.

 

[Vols4us]

Heup's not on the hot seat. He should not be on the hot seat. Heup has turned the program around. Very pleased overall with where they are. Disappointed that apparently they have not seen they are standing in their own way. Quit blaming the officials, report stuff to the SEC and fix your own issues. Until/if officiating is centralized and trained in the sport, it is a condition on the ground you work around.

It is now about taking the next step. Loyalty over competency is what puts you on the hot seat. Hire the competent that fit the program's goals that can truly help you win it all. Then let them do their jobs, be a quality boss and lead the program.

The ultimate goal is to do what Tony Voltello has done. He models how it is done well in every sport. In football in the SEC it is what Saban and Smart have done.

Everybody gets a periodic employee review by their supervisor unless they own the company, who also should seek input from trusted sources about his/her own performance. The supervisor is not doing his/her job if they do not address the deficiencies as well as compliment the successes and improvements. That's on Danny White when it comes to Heup.

The observations and patterns are what they after 4 years. Make changes to take the final steps so they can hoist the natty trophy on Rocky Top.

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

took last nights loss pretty hard.

I mean, uga is as vulnerable as they’ve ever been. They’re not that good. Top 3 backs missing. Top 3 receivers missing. Mash unit OL.

And they dominated us post first quarter.

It’s the kind of game that really makes me wonder if we’ll ever be elite again.

And I love me some Heupel, but I’m seriously doubting his system can win in the SEC.

 

[Rishvol]

being pissed after the game doesnt do squat. i want to see him chew the refs butts. i want to see him explode and show some damn emotion instead of chewing gum and looking at the jumbotron. jump up and down, get in their ears, take the freaking penalty. do something. i lm sick of seeing stupid flags and him just taking it.

Did you not see him cussing them out after the "facemask" call? Or the "offsides" call? Or the "12 man" call? Or the"overturn" call?

 

[Rishvol]

I need to explain this to me like I'm three years old. Why are we out of the playoffs as a two game loser, when Bama is in it when we beat them and they lost to Vandy? (that win against LSU wasn't impressive considering what we saw last night from them against Florida, who we also beat)

Name across chest. That's literally all it is