Recruiting Football Talk VIII

[BigSteve09]

This is just my opinion, but I would have played with two tight ends if not 3 the entire game. They were open most every play. Beat uga at their own game. Send the 2-3 WRs deep every play. Either they give up a short to mid level pass to the TEs or RB or they leave a 1-1 coverage on the WR.

I hate to say it but near the end of the first quarter (maybe after our third offensive possession?) they did switch to this for mid-field. They were fine giving up plays underneath. They almost ran what you would run late in the fourth quarter for a team in 2-minute offense.

Once we got to mid-field, they would tighten up and blitz more, and we crapped our pants pretty much every time.

I can see why national media are using it as an excuse to dismiss us, because it did give the impression that UGA was in control. They'd let us get a few body shots on the soft underbelly, then tighten up and we'd stall. This happened several times.

I do agree that a few more heaves downfield would have served better to at least make their safeties not scoot up.

We just could not push it past mid-field. That's why we had a few weird special teams decisions to make, too. Right on go/punt/FG fringe in really awkward situations.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

ACC at best will get 2 into playoffs
Big 12 (with BYU losing to Kansas) is only going to get in their champion.
Big 10 at best will get in 4, I still think someone is left out but we will see

That's 7 of the 12 right there...your highest rated Group of 5 champion is in and that's a 2 horse race between American (Army) and Mountain West (Boise State or no one). Notre Dame loses to Army and they're out. So good chance the SEC sees at least 4 teams in the playoff of the 6 with 2 losses or better.

 

[UTProf]

I’ve been saying WR has to be our priority.

 

[Smokey123]

Against teams with an offensive pulse? Bammer’s quarterback wasn’t 100%. Who else exactly

Ranks the top 5 sec defenses

 

[eVOLve]

Georgia was giving up easy options for Nico almost every play.

 

[GoodTimeVol]

No excuse for Banks not to switch up his scheme and bring blitzes when he saw the front four were getting zero pressure. Pressuring Beck was easily the biggest defensive key to the game. He has consistently crumbled when pressured.

We have a rush package and a run package for Dline…they played hurry up so we could not substitute. Blitzing a safety or LB would leave a spot open in the passing game in which Beck was deadly accurate all game.

You have to get pressure with 4 no excuse not to have your best 4 out there on the Dline…the coaches are getting too cute with the rotation

 

[MoCo_Vol]

Does anybody know when or if Spillman will be available at all this year, how bad is his injury? Would be nice to have him out there at LB

He played in Kent State and at OU, they'll preserve his non medical redshirt. But I'm not sure if he's missed a lot of practice or not. Ya get 4 games...but he could play the bowl game/playoffs and not lose the RS (like Nico did)

 

[GoodTimeVol]

Georgia was giving up easy options for Nico almost every play.

Easy options shouldn’t come with a Dline in your face after the snap, we gave up 5 sacks and should have been more if Nico didn’t escape some of them and no they were not “coverage sacks.” The offensive line played horrible

 

[Butch Jones]

There is a lot of blame to go around, Banks got schooled but not going to harp on a guy for 1 bad game plan so far this year when he has been elite in all the others. We still have a top 10 defense in the country and that’s a far cry from the last two years

Probably true but the wound is still fresh. The players didn't show up against Georgia either. There is no reason Beck had that clean of a pocket nearly every single play. We have a great defensive line and they did not make plays.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

I mean it's pretty obvious a big part of starting at WR is run blocking.

But our most talent WRs (based on 247 ratings) are all Freshmen except for Bru/Thornton. Squirrel was a 3 star, Brazzell a 3 star, Nimrod too.

But the assumption has to be that Matthews, Staley, and Leacock as well as Webb aren't as good run blocking or they'd be out there more.

 

[GoodTimeVol]

Probably true but the wound is still fresh. The players didn't show up against Georgia either. There is no reason Beck had that clean of a pocket nearly every single play. We have a great defensive line and they did not make plays.

I agree Georgia deliberately schemed our rush package from being able to sub through hurry up, the coaches are getting way to cute with the rotation which caused what you saw Saturday. Was a damn good game plan and we failed to adjust

 

[BigSteve09]

I mean it's pretty obvious a big part of starting at WR is run blocking.

But our most talent WRs (based on 247 ratings) are all Freshmen except for Bru/Thornton. Squirrel was a 3 star, Brazzell a 3 star, Nimrod too.

But the assumption has to be that Matthews, Staley, and Leacock as well as Webb aren't as good run blocking or they'd be out there more.

 

[Weezer]

I’ve been saying WR has to be our priority.

We have talented WRs. It's silly to pretend that we don't. Part of the problem is scheme. The dink and dunk passes are part of Heupel's scheme to open up down field shots. Then it's up to Nico to throw an accurate downfield ball. He struggled with that earlier in the season but has gotten better. Or receivers have also struggled making catches. The question is why? Maybe the receivers coach needs to be looked at? People keep clamoring for Matthews, but maybe our WR coach hasn't been able to get him ready yet? When it's the whole group struggling, at what point do you question their coach?

 

[MoCo_Vol]

I still think the biggest stat was the goose egg for Georgia in the turnovers.

They've had 5 games with 0 turnovers Kentucky game is the anomaly. But the other 4 times they didn't turn it over they scored at least 31 points, held the opponent under 18 and racked up 375 or more total yards.

Another stat, Mississippi State is the only home game they've had a turnover in all season.

 

[Wickman]

Keith Whitley is better than George Strait.

!!!

 

[MoCo_Vol]

So 1 play = elite blocker? I mean...they've had how many practices and other games this year and you cherry pick his ONE good block?

I could pick one of Squirrel's great catches and share that every time people complain about drops... I guess from now on.


To me there is a reason the younger WR talent isn't on the field... and I don't think it's because Heupel's an idiot.

 

[jpope9]

 

[Volnut]

 

[mykidturnedmeintoaVOL]

Is it safe to come back in here or is everything gloom and doom?

 

[UTSuave’]

I’ve been saying WR has to be our priority.

@TrippieRedd do you wanna say or me?!?












MIKE WILLIAMSSSSSSSSS!!!!!

 

[Butch Jones]

I agree Georgia deliberately schemed our rush package from being able to sub through hurry up, the coaches are getting way to cute with the rotation which caused what you saw Saturday. Was a damn good game plan and we failed to adjust

I did not notice that but I believe what you're saying. I'd still think any of our linemen in the rotation should get more pressure on their QB than what they did. Beck literally had 6+ seconds to sit there and pick apart our defense most plays.

 

[Adam Sandler]

Lord, please!

I don’t see a scenario where they leave Texas out but would love to see this.

 

[UTProf]

We have talented WRs. It's silly to pretend that we don't. Part of the problem is scheme. The dink and dunk passes are part of Heupel's scheme to open up down field shots. Then it's up to Nico to throw an accurate downfield ball. He struggled with that earlier in the season but has gotten better. Or receivers have also struggled making catches. The question is why? Maybe the receivers coach needs to be looked at? People keep clamoring for Matthews, but maybe our WR coach hasn't been able to get him ready yet? When it's the whole group struggling, at what point do you question their coach?

The problem is the underclass men are unreliable and Squirrel, McCoy and Thornton have been injured since the OU game. Thornton has been the only one close to being a game breaker. The young guys like Brazzel who do get separation are still inconsistent or Nico overshoots them in games prior. Talent is there. In fact as a unit I think we are very good but the problem is we have no one close to great.

I think that’s why so many are clamoring for Matthews in the hopes that he will be. Against UGA Nico had all day to throw and hit a lot of guys but there was no one for the big shot. Thornton in a splint dropped 2. Squirrel can and does burn defenders in the open field but if he’s not running he isn’t getting YAC. Bru gets some but he’s also playing injured.

 

[volinbama256]

It's Monday morning...

I'm still pissed now that I've seen all the video of bad/missed calls from the game.

How in the F is bama three spots ahead of us when we have the same record and they lost head to head to us? (in before the name on their jersey, which is probably correct)

Just try to win out, try to beat Vandy by at least a few TD's, and see what bowl game we are heading to... I will be shocked if they still slide us into the playoff at this point with how the AP poll ranked us...

SMH... maybe by the end of the season, some of the orange sunshine pumpers will finally realize that Heup and staff are definitely what we needed and I am very happy with what they've done and accomplished overall, but they are not perfect and have made some mistakes this season that probably cost us one W...

 

[Jackcrevol]

It's Monday morning...

I'm still pissed now that I've seen all the video of bad/missed calls from the game.

How in the F is bama three spots ahead of us when we have the same record and they lost head to head to us? (in before the name on their jersey, which is probably correct)

Just try to win out, try to beat Vandy by at least a few TD's, and see what bowl game we are heading to... I will be shocked if they still slide us into the playoff at this point with how the AP poll ranked us...

SMH... maybe by the end of the season, some of the orange sunshine pumpers will finally realize that Heup and staff are definitely what we needed and I am very happy with what they've done and accomplished overall, but they are not perfect and have made some mistakes this season that probably cost us one W...

You should be more mad about the Arkansas game. And concerned about the Defensive line going into its shell. Defense plays like crap in big time SEC matchups.