Recruiting Football Talk VIII

[csprig9]

Posting again bc this is what a real coach sounds like


Anyone, anywhere, anytime……

PSU or OSU got a problem out Knoxville coming to one of their places 12/20-12/21

The man said exactly what our fanbase is about

CJH is a volunteer now

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Not sure where psu is in so the rankings, but their defense is legit.

PSU is #4 in total defense nationally. We are #5.

 

[HalfullVol]

Smoking mirrors, I like that one. Almost kinda has its own logic.

Add it to the list;
Pre-Madonnas
Pocket presents
Etc,…

 

[drvenner]

Corn Chips so many choices

Regular
BBQ
Honey BBQ
Honey BBQ Twist

Frito Lay BBQ ,the others are good. This one is the goodest.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

I heard a crazy tidbit on Basilio yesterday morning. It’s year four and Glen Elarbee doesn’t have a single player he recruited on the high school level that starts on the OL.

Next year will be the ultimate litmus test for Elarbee.

 

[drvenner]

Collective Scholarship? PWO with NIL?

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Well hopefully next year breaks the trend.

LT: Heard
LG: Karic
C: Satterwhite**
RG: Transfer
RT: Sanders or Perry**

We should at least see 1 next year finally.

I thought Karic is out of eligibility?

 

[knoxvol52]

Smoking mirrors, I like that one. Almost kinda has its own logic.

Yes I know smoke and mirrors is the POLITICALLY correct term but ask me if I care.

 

[drvenner]

Okay, I just realized that if we beat Ohio State at their house, then we have to go to the Rose Bowl and play the number one team Oregon. Alabama, who barely got in plays Notre Dame, who is generally over rated, and then SMU? Seriously? this is some wonky crap.

The number 9 seed is the absolute worst seed in the whole mess. It is truly wonky.

 

[VolsnCards5]

Gonna preemptively say the Vols won't be #1 forever and there should be no handwringing over it. This season is gonna be nuts.

I think we can get to March as a 2 seed again though.

This is beta BVS talk.

40-0.

 

[Magic8Vol]

More NFL coaches will start coming to the NCAA since it's a better product and a growing market

Lol an hour ago I thought this was dumb considering all the BS college coaches have to deal with compared to the NFL. 5 mins ago i heard that Belichek interviewed for the NC job. Now im like. .

 

[Jackcrevol]

Next year will be the ultimate litmus test for Elarbee.

Id say by year 5 he will. To his credit he has had super senioritis.

 

[Devo182]

I have seen people say we have to recruit better. And I agree but my big question is how do you do it? Look at the top 10 according to On3:
1. TX
2. Bama
3. Oregon
4. UGA
5. OSU
6. Michicheat
7. AU
8. LSU
9. TAMU
10. TN

That’s 7 out of the top 10 that’s on the SEC. So how do you overcome that? Now I also found something interesting that On3 does. It puts average NIL. Now let’s evaluate that.

TX (215k)
Bama (280k)
Oregon (243 k)
UGA (200k)
OSU (207k)
Michicheat (278k)
AU (190k)
LSU (166k)
TAMU (175k)
TN (178k)

So serious question. How do we realistically ever get into the top 5 in recruiting? And before anyone comes in with oh that doesn’t matter in the portal era, yea it does. Ole Miss built it through the portal and look where they are.

We've been 15-20th in talent in recent years.

If we can actually recruit ~10th consistently, then that's great to get up to #10 in team talent and join the BCR for the first time ever.

Meanwhile here we are with our 2nd 10 win season in 3 years and the playoffs.

Keep winning big (or better yet go deep in the playoffs) and our profile will continue to grow.

In the meantime, these 5* QBs and stud DLs go a long ways...just keep leveling up. 10 wins sure is nice as hell though tbh

 

[Enki_Amenra]

 

[drvenner]

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While I really love this GIF, maybe think about changing it up a little. Maybe something like this:

 

[drvenner]

Good luck to all the TSSAA teams playing for State Championships this week!

Go BGA!

Go Smoky Bears!! Turn the Page!

 

[drvenner]

Nope only COLAs

I would at least insist on a Mountain Dew or maybe a beer.

 

[Devo182]

Agree with this.

Recruiting rankings also don’t do a great job accounting for positional value. The top players in our classes since Heupel’s been here have been QBs, Edge guys, DL, and WR. Finally got the big fish OT this year but that’s clearly a target. Spend the money there.

I need to do some analysis into the college value of those positions but I think we’d get a nice bump.

You could probably start with Bill C's work in this arena.

His research showed a nice multiplier for defensive recruits, which makes a lot of sense...you can really scheme an offense up to attack a variety of defenses and the talent can take a backseat...but defense tends to be more reactive. Raw talent excels on defense.

Iirc the effects were something like .95 for an offensive recruit and 1.08 for defensive. Something like that.

 

[SoilVol]

What are we predicting for OL necks year?

LT - L. Heard
LG - Karic (if awarded extra yr)
C - Satterwhite
RG - Portal?
RT - D. Sanders

 

[drvenner]

This is why I took such a long break. Coming back appears to be a HUGE mistake.

You missed a lot better stuff than this. I can go back through and tag you in a bunch of them if you like.

 

[COOKEVOL]

You missed a lot better stuff than this. I can go back through and tag you in a bunch of them if you like.

Nah, I'm good. Hard pass.

 

[drvenner]

I need both of these ASAP

Just how many pairs of shoes do you have?

 

[knoxvol52]

Just how many pairs of shoes do you have?

Would make you think trippie is a female wanting a new pair of shoes every day..

 

[drvenner]

Wish him well unless he goes to you know, one of them schools.

 

[drvenner]

I suspect it's AI.

Then I need to learn more about AI.