Recruiting Football Talk VIII

[Jackcrevol]

Great data. Thanks for taking the time to compile and post. Big difference in strength between an 18 year old and a 20-22 year old. OL is also one of the most difficult positions to learn as well.

Agreed, and part of reason why we need to get after one or two Porthole guards.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

I need a picture of a Power T I can superimpose onto that video of bluff mountain that looks natural. Make it look like their is a Power T in the clouds

I think I'll use @TN-POSSUM 's method and steal one of these

 

[SagginVawls]

Someone yesterday said they thought if you put your name in the portal, you can still play in whatever games are left, I think referencing Nimrod and Webb... GTFO.
I don't want to see a single kid who put his name in the portal seeing the field wearing the Power T for even a snap. Clean out your locker. BYE.

The way Heup worded things when talking about portal guys made it clear they wouldn't be participating in game prep for the playoffs. Rightfully so.

 

[dmwvol12]

it's about recruiting. I think he is a developer. This program isnt looking for developmental projects any longer. We are chasing championships. Future coaches or future NFL players, you choose.

It’s also one of the most difficult positions to anticipate success. People that size develop at such different rates it’s hard to predict how they will be at 20-22 years old. We are evaluating them when they are 16-18 years old. Very difficult.

 

[jave36]

Agreed, and part of reason why we need to get after one or two Porthole guards.

We'll sail to victory if we do.

 

[#Vol4Life1991]

Yes maybe go to a classy one like the Titans or maybe the Giants so he can be miserable like Hyatt.

They trash too. Funny how you avoided the organizations like the ravens, chiefs, bills, lions, steelers, etc. You brought up 3 trash organizations; surprised you didnt mention the jets too lol

 

[dmwvol12]

Agreed, and part of reason why we need to get after one or two Porthole guards.

Agreed, assuming they don’t think they have it in existing underclassmen. Portal and OL just makes sense but it does for all our competition as well. I just trust the staff as I think they have proven that they deserve it.

 

[Orange.]

USCe's Kyle Kennard won the Bronco Nagurski award.

Sacks per Rush:
Kennard: 3.2%
Pearce: 3.4%

Pressure Rate:
Kennard: 11.5%
Pearce: 22.3%

1-on-1 Win Rate:
Kennard: 12.7%
Pearce: 23.0%

Run Defense Stop%:
Kennard: 3.8%
Pearce: 10.3%

My model thinks Pearce is worth 2.5 points per game over Kennard. Best EDGE in the country and #11 over the last 10 years.

Bronco Nagurski would have voted for Pearce.

This thought led me to read the wikip on Nagurski. He was awesome! @butchna and @Cosmo Kramer prolly already know the history. Bronko Nagurski - Wikipedia

 

[therickbol]

HahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahHaah

Dorkwitz isn’t jumping in guys arms after hearing this news

Somebody take that video and make it go backwards in slow motion. Show him jumping backwards out of that dudes arms and sitting back down.

 

[Jackcrevol]

We'll sail to victory if we do.

Look aft, we shall be victorious.

 

[knoxvol52]

They trash too. Funny how you avoided the organizations like the ravens, chiefs, bills, lions, steelers, etc. You brought up 3 trash organizations; surprised you didnt mention the jets too lol

First of all the organizations you mentioned aren't going to be no where near top of the draft.

 

[PlanetVolunteer]

Yup. Sacks are shiny (even though he still did better on a per-rush basis), but beating your man 1-on-1 and pressuring the QB is a better indicator of future performance / talent than sacks.

And he won't be the focal point of the opposition early on in the NFL.

He's still a freak, maybe needs to put on more weight though.

 

[jave36]

And he won't be the focal point of the opposition early on in the NFL.

He's still a freak, maybe needs to put on more weight though.

I've always thought he looked smaller than most NFL DE

 

[PlanetVolunteer]

The NCAA needs to open the portal when the freaking season is over. This crap is ridiculous. Or at least do it in early January.

 

[PlanetVolunteer]

I've always thought he looked smaller than most NFL DE

If he's a little heavier he may have been able to overcome all the holding

 

[TrippieRedd]

Might pull the trigger on this.

 

[Midas]

Might pull the trigger on this.
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We will probably cover spread against Miami right? Thinking about going in on that.

 

[TrippieRedd]

We will probably cover spread against Miami right? Thinking about going in on that.

**** I’m high, wrong thread.

I feel safer with ML lol

 

[knoxvol52]

I've always thought he looked smaller than most NFL DE

Pearce is 6'5" 242
Micah Parsons is 6'3" 245

Both practically play same position.

 

[DD4ME]

Troll game is weak AF.

Lol don't judge me

 

[marcusluvsvols]

Ryan Day sleeps between the mattress and box springs.

Ryan Day only pees in a locked stall...because his micropenis is unsettling.

 

[DD4ME]

Since the portal dudes are mostly spyre conversations anyway just have coaches pick from menu and Spyre can initiate chats. A pattern is emerging of guys always playing musical chairs with their hand out. There is a diminishing return with some of that. Guys like Bear from USC can gtho.

 

[DD4ME]

PSA: Nerd stuff incoming.

Over the last 10 years in the SEC, only half of eventual starting OL get their first starter minutes before their RS-JR or SR year. 9% break in as FR, 24% as SO/RS-FR, 17% as JR/RS-SO, and 26% as SR/RS-JR, and 24% don't start until they're RS-SRs. The trend is pretty consistent across the FBS, and the numbers hold up for the likes of Bama / Georgia / etc. as well.

If we consider 2022 Heupel / Ellarbee's first shot at real recruiting class, those guys wouldn't hit that RS-JR / SR benchmark until next year.

2022 / JR (Expect to contribute in 2025):
Addison Nichols: Starter at Arkansas (2024)
Brian Grant: TBD (37 snaps this year)
Masai Reddick: TBD (0 snaps)
Maurice Clipper: Gone

2023 / SO (Expect to contribute in 2026):
Sham Umarov: TBD (66 snaps)
Ayden Bussell: TBD (62 snaps)
Trevor Duncan: TBD (8 snaps)
Vysen Lang: Gone (44 snaps)

2024 / FR (Expect to contribute in 2027):
Jesse Perry: TBD (72 snaps)
Max Anderson: TBD (47 snaps)
William Satterwhite: TBD (45 snaps)
Bennett Warren: TBD (40 snaps)
Gage Ginther: TBD (19 snaps)
Jeremias Heard: TBD (8 snaps)

I also want to note, we had 4/6 (66%) of our freshman OL and 3/4 (75%) of our sophomores get 40+ snaps. The SEC averages for those years are 37% and 47% respectively.

All this to say, yes - we haven't had Ellarbee recruits break into the starting lineup. That said, given the way OL progress in the SEC, you wouldn't really expect to see that happen until next year. Granted, the 2022 crop doesn't look especially close, but both the 2023 and 2024 groups are ahead of schedule in terms of snap counts, and the 2024 group in particular looks like one of the best freshmen groups in the country.

Be careful posting rational and intelligent posts. It can lead to irrational debates for no reason.

 

[KB5252]

Yes maybe go to a classy one like the Titans or maybe the Giants so he can be miserable like Hyatt.

He would be less miserable in Dallas?

 

[DD4ME]

Laughed