Recruiting Football Talk VIII

#104,002
#104,002
End of the day we have to get better talent.

You only do that 3 ways.

1. Elite HS recruiting
2. Player Development
3. Pony up in the portal

3 is difficult as an all everything school the pie only has so many pieces. The difference so far has been Barnes & Tony V can do 2 as well as anyone in the country so even if they are behind in 1 or 3 they’ll make it work. Tony V is a special breed…he’s doing it at all 3 levels.
 
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#104,004
#104,004
Welp, not a lot to say about last night, it was cold, Vols were not ready, gameplan was questionable, it was cold, and the Vol faithful showed up in droves! Did I mention it was cold?!
We made it home at about 2:30 after a long day. Spoke to many OSU fans that said they have never seen that kind of visiting crowd. They were pretty cool until after the game, but that’s expected after 12 hours of tailgating.
Moving on, could care less about any remaining games! GBO!
 
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VolNRaleighNC said:
I don’t think we can credit Elarbee with Sanders…
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People try to give him credit for Darnell Wright, too. Forgetting that he was a 5* before arriving on campus and was a slam dunk first rounder out of high school. If Elarbee was recruiting him. We’d have probably missed out on him.

It’s amazing how many excuses people come up with on why he is continually retained every year.
 
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Memphisvol87 said:
He showed nothing that screamed elite. Doesn’t me he isn’t but Lewis looks better at this point.
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Memphisvol87 said:
He showed nothing that screamed elite. Doesn’t me he isn’t but Lewis looks better at this point.
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Oh, he certainly may not be. But, it’s possible, so I think they’d be silly to not hit the portal for a RB if Sampson leaves
 
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#104,011
MarcoVol said:
Vols lost 42-17 to end 1997 season.

Were they just hoping then?

We’ve won more games over the last 3 seasons than we have any 3 seasons dating back to 1996-1998.

Things are going well. Just not over the hump yet. Baseball is different than football. If UGA doesn’t win the NC this year then CFB will have just its 3rd active HC with a NC.
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Bingo.

We walked in a crap situation in these playoffs.

We're also progressing. The ONLY playoff team with a Fr QB. I mean, goodness.

Our expectation was to maybe make the playoffs every couple/few years. I mean, Bama missed it, as did LSU, UF, Auburn, A&M, OU, Ole Miss's greatest class ever, Mizzou's hype train, etc. It's not as easy as we made it look.

I'm expecting 2 playoffs every 5 years. And yet we look well poised to reach 2+ in just the first 3 years imo.

Keep winning and recruiting. Which, well, we are lol. In the meantime, someone please go find us a billion dollar booster. Hey @Danny White.
 
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I’m just surprised that we didn’t have ONE SINGLE elite offensive performance. I mean we were probably statistically worse in the big games than last year in terms of pure production. Didn’t have that on my bingo card.
 
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jakez4ut said:
I saw a list of top ten most valuable athletic departments... OSU and Texas were 1 & 2. Oregon was 3rd. We were 9th.

So is if different, yes. Is it so much so that we are relegated to mediocrity? No, I don't think so. Is this the ceiling if we don't change anything? Maybe...I mean the matchup we got in round 1...I think we can all agree now, not ideal lol. In a different format where we're playing an SMU or Indiana in round one at home, we probably advance... And get clobbered in round 2.

I do think it means we have to make some decisions as it relates to roster management we haven't been comfortable with up to this point.

A year ago you couldn't trust Florida's nil, culture was terrible... Now they're flipping 5*s from Texas. All is well.

$ talks, if the check clears... Damn everything else. And the type of guys you need are swimming in those waters.

I'm not saying we should or shouldn't do that. At some point when this revenue sharing and nil gets some guard rails, some of this will slow down a little.

Until then... You're not getting Jeremiah Smith type dudes unless you're willing to spend with the programs that are... Same thing with the portal.

Any way...I really don't think we're that far away. But we're not there. And we're not dynamic enough at wr, and we need a lot more David Sanders type guys in the o line...

Speed at lb and safety... Need that too.

And the coaches have really do a self scout and figure out what to do going forward... And part of that for heupel will be to determine if that means making some changes.

I'm not gonna call for heads. I'm still excited about the direction of this program, but can see how big the gap still is between us and programs line UGA and OSU etc.

Still, last night sucked bad. Need a little time to get this in the rear view...
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As unfortunate as it is, money is driving this. I don't know if it's a lack of money or an unwillingness to spend it. Players are cashing in and who can blame them? In today's game you have to purchase your rosters. Are we willing to do that?

Program loyalty seems to be as strong as the amount on the check. I'm not sure playing for the logo is much of a thing anymore.

When NC hired BB, I thought it was stupid but I'm rethinking it. It may be a genious move. Head coaches now need to be more roster managers than ever before. He's going to set that program up as a professional team. His staff will mimick a professional organization. Let's face it, college is now professional, no amateur about it.
 
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Ace said:
It has to go fast to have a chance against superior talent. You can slow down if talent is even, but to beat more talented defenses it has to go fast. For some reason, we have not been able to go as fast for the past two years since HH left.
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And that reason is we didn’t go get a QB with 2 years eligibility that was capable to come in and compete for the job.

We relied on Joe who couldn’t do at Michigan and Here when handed the job
And we relied on a RS freshman who wasnt ready to do it.

Both years we had only one option and both years that option wasnt good enough to go fast and execute as needed
 
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#104,019
InVOLuntary said:
As unfortunate as it is, money is driving this. I don't know if it's a lack of money or an unwillingness to spend it. Players are cashing in and who can blame them? In today's game you have to purchase your rosters. Are we willing to do that?

Program loyalty seems to be as strong as the amount on the check. I'm not sure playing for the logo is much of a thing anymore.

When NC hired BB, I thought it was stupid but I'm rethinking it. It may be a genious move. Head coaches now need to be more roster managers than ever before. He's going to set that program up as a professional team. His staff will mimick a professional organization. Let's face it, college is now professional, no amateur about it.
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Be funny if it came out one day down the road that somehow the coaches/spyre/UT we’re taking a cut of the money instead of spending it on players.
 
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#104,020
Midas said:
Was just watching some 2022 highlights and noticed we ran so much more motion and did load up one side with 3 receivers a lot more and it worked so well. Why are we not doing that anymore?!
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Did the same last night and it was just shocking to see how much the offense has changed. There were so many successful alignments, pre-snap disguises, etc. that we didn’t incorporate a single time this season. We’ve for some reason defaulted to 4 wide flex formations that allow defenses to play 3vs2 against our WRs with the safety help. That only works against less talented D-Lines which unfortunately was not the case with our toughest opponents.

It’s just so odd we didn’t seem to adjust or have an alternate plan all season when we failed with that initial game plan. Heup obviously knows what he’s doing but it’s been a puzzling issue forsure.
 
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#104,025
The only things I will say about yesterday...............

#1. In 36 years of following Austin Peay basketball.........That was the worst f'ing performance I've seen
#2. That was the worst I've ever seen a "Good" UT team look in my lifetime.

Yesterday was a waste of time.
 
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