Recruiting Football Talk VIII

[itsme]

Apparently our big boosters can't compare with other teams' big boosters. Or Heup just doesn't want the higher profile guys. I don't know. All this talk of culture, I like the culture our team has, but we need more elite level guys that will allow us to compete with the elite teams. OSU's WRs were legit elite. Especially that Smith kid. None of our WRs have displayed the level of ability they did.

We were completely exposed by their elite players. It absolutely hurt to watch. I want a guy like Jeremiah Smith on a team I support. That guy is a future best receiver in the NFL type of guy.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

This says otherwise. Howard led the nature in completion percentage against the blitz. I’m not suggesting that we couldn’t have done some different things, but he also does well against man coverage. Additionally, we are 26th nationally in blitzing percentage. This board makes it all sound so easy.

Ohio State vs. Tennessee: Key advantages for each team in first-round College Football Playoff game

When Michigan brought pressure he couldn't hit the broadside of a barn.

Also I'd be curious to know what their definition of a blitz is, because we definetly did not do it 33% of the time.

 

[eVOLve]

We were completely exposed by their elite players. It absolutely hurt to watch. I want a guy like Jeremiah Smith on a team I support. That guy is a future best receiver in the NFL type of guy.

We gonna have to find more money and a consistent stream of it. The last couple of years we’ve went all in but I’m sure the pot is getting dry.

 

[dmwvol12]

OSU and UGA, 2 of the elite teams in the sport that are also in the playoff, are the only teams we play with a pulse?

Everybody moves it well against other teams *at times*. It’s real life football, not PlayStation. Those guys are also on scholarship and getting NIL and their coaches also make millions to figure out how to move the football.

UGA gave up 41 to Bama, 31 to Miss St, 20 to FL (more than we did), 28 to Ole Miss, 21 to UMass, and a whopping 42 to GT that could’ve been more if not for the weird OT rules. Are Kirby and Schumann bad defensive coaches?

Well said. It’s funny that people can’t grasp that it’s harder to stop great offenses with elite talent. Just need to expand the ignore list or just log off and join the other grown ups.

 

[MarcoVol]

No. They dont get credit for that after they blew it.

Then why are you giving the offense credit for scoring in OT to win our their final 3 possessions of regulations were:

- punt (3 plays for 4 yards)
- punt (3 plays for 0 yards)
- time expired (6 plays for 23 yards)

 

[VolGee4]

When Michigan brought pressure he couldn't hit the broadside of a barn.

Also I'd be curious to know what their definition of a blitz is, because we definetly did not do it 33% of the time.

Do the research. One game doesn’t make a QB. It’s all right there.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

For the 26 class. I think we have to get
Faizon Brandon
Tristan Keys
Dunham
Hiter

All 4 should end up as 5*.

on3 is the only site that has Faizon as a 4 star....also WTF does on3 have Faizon as a 4 star?!

 

[Orange_Crush]

Kirby fired Chaney after going to a national championship and having the best rushing attack with I’m pretty sure the best season ever for two RBs on the same team. And they upgraded and won two natty’s. It’s possible for Heupel to do the same

Listen to yourselves. We just had one of the best defenses in the country, and had one of the best years in the last two decades, after being left for dead as a program just 4 years ago, and you all want to fire coaches.

This place is like hanging out at Chuckee Cheese. You have to listen to kids cry and scream their toddler-logic, and will likely get another case of chicken pox for the trouble.

 

[headhunter15]

Some good stuff from Ramon Foster this morning on 104.5.

Any cliff notes?

 

[Jackcrevol]

Hopefully necks year Banks can figure out away to send 1 player on a blitz in aways games. Else, will be a long year as we are the away team in 2025.

Think you gotta change game plan up on road games to be more aggressive.

 

[ForMyLosses]

Fwiw this is still the song I equate with CFB

Straight banger waking up to that growing up. And Lee corso was coherent

 

[mr.checkerboards]

on3 is the only site that has Faizon as a 4 star....also WTF does on3 have Faizon as a 4 star?!

Behind I guess.
247 doesnt have Dunham or Hiter as 5* but I believe they both land there.

 

[MrVolton]

Question for you folks that live in the Knoxville area. A few days ago a few mentioned a street or neighborhood with some incredible Christmas lights. We will be traveling through Knoxville on our way to Bristol soon and thought we may check them out if near the interstate.

Farragut Park was pretty well lit up. Not too far off the interstate.

 

[csprig9]

It’s frustrating reading this board with people wanting more and then being beat down and told everything is fine
Clearly it wasn’t good enough to beat OSU and hasn’t been good enough to beat UGA
So no everything is not good and we literally need better players and better coaching at some positions

Too 10 defense is great but when you beat down weak competition the numbers show good
Had good games against bama and Florida both wins so that’s great but UGA beat our ass and OSU embarrassed us

So yes, development and talent is needed

Same thing on offense

 

[ForMyLosses]

Listen to yourselves. We just had one of the best defenses in the country, and had one of the best years in the last two decades, after being left for dead as a program just 4 years ago, and you all want to fire coaches.

This place is like hanging out at Chuckee Cheese. You have to listen to kids cry and scream their toddler-logic, and will likely get another case of chicken pox for the trouble.

Did you not watch that game. That’s what having an elite offensive coordinator/offense looked like against our best defense in the past decade. And our defense is not gonna have half the talent it had this year on the dline…

 

[engineerVOL]

What's he saying?

Wasn’t pleased with the lack of adjustments on defense. And we just aren’t a good blitzing team. Just aren’t. One time we send Telander and he ran right into the teeth. So if we aren’t getting to Will Howard with our 4, then why not adjust and resort to hands up in the air. Bat passes down. Not a once.

DBs didn’t play bad they just got beat by better players.

Nico is the guy. Needs coaching on his “wind up” it’s too slow and telling and why his passes get batted down.

Forgot who we was talking about but one of the guys on campus or the portal is legit LT and Heard needs to slide over. He’s not a LT (knew it).

Mainly disappointed in Banks.

 

[Jackcrevol]

Straight banger waking up to that growing up. And Lee corso was coherent

It was always sort of a running joke between my friends and I. Not my music of choice, but certainly better than ANYthing they pull out these days.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

can we all just agree something needs to change on offense? as for the Banks crap, his defenses have gotten progressively better each year, talent has gotten worlds better. And they continue to recruit well there. Seems Banks is a better GM than his peer.

fact: Huepel likes offense.
fact: he is competitive as hell
fact: we have won 10 games, twice

He is smart. He knows our deficiencies.

If its money they need, i'm sure (I hope) Spyre will be our banging the war bond drum, again.

My point is let's see how things unfold. Truthfully as much as WE can see the line issues, WR issues, hastily firing Pope and Smellherfeet, would be disastrous.

Also, those guys had a hand in 10 win season. If it were me, i'd have a detailed plan in place, with goals and objectives (expectations) outlined for them. That may be too micro managey, but, what happened in 2024 to offense cannot go on. Offense is literally regressing. There is no excuse.

Trust Huepel. I dont envy him to have to make decisions, as is issues when you hire friends. Really think answer to OL is getting recruiting help for Ellarbee. Same for Pope.

On Halzle, those saying the routes are vanilla, play calling is bad, etc etc. May be on to something. Will be interesting to see what happens.

One thing is for sure, they need to attack the porthole. Need to ensure we dont put any players on peddle stools, and Nico maintains pocket presents at all times.

Are you suggesting that we should agree with you?

 

[ForMyLosses]

It was always sort of a running joke between my friends and I. Not my music of choice, but certainly better than ANYthing they pull out these days.

That’s what I’m saying. Not a huge country music fan grew up in Franklin, TN but comparing it today it’s a banger.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Do the research. One game doesn’t make a QB. It’s all right there.

Not really. It sill exposes how stupid our gameplan was.
We don't want to blitz, but we are going to leave our DB'S 1 on 1 with 3 first round talents at wide out

 

[MrVolton]

The offense won those games tho, it's not like he got big stops.
Florida this year is another. The offense won that one too.

Teams with offensive talent like Bama, UGA, and OSU are gonna get theirs. Some nights you’ve just got to have the firepower to keep up. That’s what cost us more than the D did this year.

 

[Jackcrevol]

That’s what I’m saying. Not a huge country music fan grew up in Franklin, TN but comparing it today it’s a banger.

That is saying something...

 

[Jackcrevol]

Are you suggesting that we should agree with you?

Trolls dont exist, @Enki_Amenra

 

[itsme]

Development is the issue, if we could develop guys at certain positions (OL, WR, etc.) I wouldn’t give a **** about the portal.

No reason Clemson should have two freshman WRs each having 600+ receiving yards while our older guys struggle

IMO, Bru isn't fully recovered from his injury last year. I also think that We need to have a look at some of the position coaches (OL, WR, DB) along with OC and determine if we have the right people in order to succeed here. I feel this is pivotal for Heupel to take the next step. That was the thing about Saban if you didn't do your job there were guys waiting in line for the opportunity.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Teams with offensive talent like Bama, UGA, and OSU are gonna get theirs. Some nights you’ve just got to have the firepower to keep up. That’s what cost us more than the D did this year.

In a 3 game stretch this season to UK, MSST and Arky we gave up something like 800 yards of offense to some bad teams.