Recruiting Football Talk VIII

[TrippieRedd]

He's a true freshman who is dealing with a banged up shoulder

Seems like a lot of our athletes across multiple sports always end up with a shoulder injury.

Maybe I’m just trippin.

Need to start doing more shoulder presses and lateral/front raises

 

[volinexile17]

Dubar shot 40% from 3 the last 2 seasons. He can make those. Would be awesome if he’d start doing so.

But If anybody took too many, it was ZZ. I’d add him going 1-11 from 3 as a negative. And someone that Pope prob wanted shooting. His career 3P% is 32%.

He’s due tho. Shooting 6% from 3 over the last 2 games (1-17) and is 2 for his last 20 from downtown.

This. ZZ can hit the three when he’s got time to set and release with space. Him firing threes off the dribble or quick catch and shoot is not a recipe for success.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

He's a true freshman who is dealing with a banged up shoulder

And there's only 1 guy available on the bench (Gainey) that plays ahead of him.

Like I said before, didn't expect much and he's still a TBD...but this year specifically would have been a great opportunity to go play minutes. I think he's got upside...

Just had hopes that Bishop would be able to take on more of the 10+ MPG Carr was playing. Instead we've seen ZZ playing even more than he did last year when people were saying "he's playing too many minutes"

 

[TrippieRedd]

I’ll say it again, Boswell reminds me of a clearance section Jaden Springer

It’s mostly just how they are built.

 

[TrippieRedd]

And there's only 1 guy available on the bench (Gainey) that plays ahead of him.

Like I said before, didn't expect much and he's still a TBD...but this year specifically would have been a great opportunity to go play minutes. I think he's got upside...

Just had hopes that Bishop would be able to take on more of the 10+ MPG Carr was playing. Instead we've seen ZZ playing even more than he did last year when people were saying "he's playing too many minutes"

I’m not trying to start anything, just a simple question.

Would Boswell transfer if ZZ comes back? Does he leave if ZZ returns and we snag Mallory?

I have no clue, just wanted your opinion.

 

[PlanetVolunteer]

Can we also please for the love of the good lord move all the rich people that sit behind the players bench to behind the basket and put the students behind the players bench.

Those guys are never up and cheering. I get it, y’all are rich and can do whatever but get your ass off the seat and cheer or stay the hell home.

I think this is a problem at many places. Rich old fans hate fun.

 

[PlanetVolunteer]

Proven time and time again.

No, that would be the Philadelphia Eagles fanbase.

 

[butchna]

@butchna

One drive to win the NFL Super Bowl who you taking as your QB?

Brady
Manning
Montana
Rodgers
Elway
MaHomes

Montana

 

[MoCo_Vol]

I’ll say it again, Boswell reminds me of a clearance section Jaden Springer

It’s mostly just how they are built.

Maybe, but I'd kill for Boswell to have Springer's offensive firepower right now.

 

[screenthis]

Maybe, but I'd kill for Boswell to have Springer's offensive firepower right now.

Before the SEC games started, I thought we finally had players that wouldn't disappear for long stretches. on offense.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

I’m not trying to start anything, just a simple question.

Would Boswell transfer if ZZ comes back? Does he leave if ZZ returns and we snag Mallory?

I have no clue, just wanted your opinion.

I don't think Bishop will ever be a pure PG for us. He's far closer to Mashack than ZZ in almost every way.

So honestly Gainey/Mashack coming back might have a bigger impact on Bishop's desire to transfer than ZZ.

HS Scouting report on Bishop:
Bishop Boswell is a big and strong guard. He’s competitive with a physical style on both ends of the floor that creates mismatch problems in the backcourt and allows him to play and defend multiple positions. He’s engaged defensively, should be very switchable at the next level, and also an excellent perimeter rebounder. He sees the floor well and has made notable strides as a passer and creator for others as he continues to develop into more of a lead guard. He has good end-to-end speed with the ball and looks to get downhill whenever he can. His first step isn’t quite as dynamic from a standstill, and so he rarely blows right by a set defender with his first-move in the half-court. Boswell is a capable spot-up shooter with his feet set (35% 3pt in the EYBL on 29-83 shooting), but will want to continue to develop, particularly in the mid-range area where he gets very little elevation into his release when shooting off the dribble. Overall, he continues to trend into a big guard whose size, strength, physicality, and increasing two-way versatility are his calling cards.

 

[TrippieRedd]

I don't think Bishop will ever be a pure PG for us. He's far closer to Mashack than ZZ in almost every way.

So honestly Gainey/Mashack coming back might have a bigger impact on Bishop's desire to transfer than ZZ.

HS Scouting report on Bishop:
Bishop Boswell is a big and strong guard. He’s competitive with a physical style on both ends of the floor that creates mismatch problems in the backcourt and allows him to play and defend multiple positions. He’s engaged defensively, should be very switchable at the next level, and also an excellent perimeter rebounder. He sees the floor well and has made notable strides as a passer and creator for others as he continues to develop into more of a lead guard. He has good end-to-end speed with the ball and looks to get downhill whenever he can. His first step isn’t quite as dynamic from a standstill, and so he rarely blows right by a set defender with his first-move in the half-court. Boswell is a capable spot-up shooter with his feet set (35% 3pt in the EYBL on 29-83 shooting), but will want to continue to develop, particularly in the mid-range area where he gets very little elevation into his release when shooting off the dribble. Overall, he continues to trend into a big guard whose size, strength, physicality, and increasing two-way versatility are his calling cards.

I didn’t even think about Mashack and Gainey returning. That would be insane.

 

[screenthis]

I don't think Bishop will ever be a pure PG for us. He's far closer to Mashack than ZZ in almost every way.

So honestly Gainey/Mashack coming back might have a bigger impact on Bishop's desire to transfer than ZZ.

HS Scouting report on Bishop:
Bishop Boswell is a big and strong guard. He’s competitive with a physical style on both ends of the floor that creates mismatch problems in the backcourt and allows him to play and defend multiple positions. He’s engaged defensively, should be very switchable at the next level, and also an excellent perimeter rebounder. He sees the floor well and has made notable strides as a passer and creator for others as he continues to develop into more of a lead guard. He has good end-to-end speed with the ball and looks to get downhill whenever he can. His first step isn’t quite as dynamic from a standstill, and so he rarely blows right by a set defender with his first-move in the half-court. Boswell is a capable spot-up shooter with his feet set (35% 3pt in the EYBL on 29-83 shooting), but will want to continue to develop, particularly in the mid-range area where he gets very little elevation into his release when shooting off the dribble. Overall, he continues to trend into a big guard whose size, strength, physicality, and increasing two-way versatility are his calling cards.

Perimeter rebounder?

 

[PlanetVolunteer]

I mean, they only made the tournament last year because they won the ACC tournament. They were like 9th or 10th in the ACC and were HOPING for an NIT bid.

Yeah I remember. Still counts! Made the tournament before, I just know they will probably jump the gun and go right to the fahrin.

Like how I'm sure everyone is going to super overreact to our recent struggles.

 

[knoxvol52]

I didn’t even think about Mashack and Gainey returning. That would be insane.

Believe Igor can come back as well. I think Igor would do much better in a 2nd year with Barnes. Jmo..

 

[knoxvol52]

I mean, they only made the tournament last year because they won the ACC tournament. They were like 9th or 10th in the ACC and were HOPING for an NIT bid.

Duke is going breeze through the ACC, UNC will give them a game due to insane rivalry and maybe Louisville.

 

[knoxvol52]

Montana

Yea, I was going back and forth on Montana and Elway...

 

[MoCo_Vol]

Before the SEC games started, I thought we finally had players that wouldn't disappear for long stretches. on offense.

To be honest, I was expecting a "back to earth" for our offense once league play started. Most announcers will harp on how physical we are every single game...even when we're not playing physical.

But the SEC teams ALWAYS play us physical, grabbing when we screen, pushing for rebounding, slapping arms when we drive, and just essentially doing that until the officials put them in check. Coach Cal is the only SEC coach I've really seen that doesn't coach his guys to defend this way...

The games where we don't let it impact us those teams usually wear themselves out mentally or physically because we normally can keep up our intensity on defense. This year though I think we just have so many new faces that hadn't yet been exposed to how SEC play is...8 games in and we're 4-4 for 3 of those 4 to come down to the last minute of play is actually a bit better than I expected.

And had you told me we'd be 4-4 at this spot in the season after facing #1 on the road, #8 on the road, #12 at home, #14 at home and #23 at home I'd be fairly happy with the outcome...especially being 3 of those 4 losses were on the road.

STILL it's frustrating that in every single loss we let up on one end or the other. Kentucky was the first game where we saw it happen on both ends...even at Florida we held them to pretty low %.

Only 1 team has beaten us that didn't score over 70 points, and that was at Auburn in an absolute nightmare of a game officiating and shooting for both teams.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

Perimeter rebounder?

Crashing from outside the paint...something Santi was a MASTER of

Actually...Bishop's closest comp for a former Vol might be Santi. Although I've not seen enough of him shooting to say he's got the same deep ball ability.

 

[knoxvol52]

I never am a excuse maker in any sporting event but it seemed like the Vols were physically and mentally drained from the rock fight Saturday night at Auburn. Jmo.

 

[butchna]

Yea, I was going back and forth on Montana and Elway...

Now if you change the parameter to AFC Championship game against the Browns…?

 

[MoCo_Vol]

Believe Igor can come back as well. I think Igor would do much better in a 2nd year with Barnes. Jmo..

Yep, I think Igor honestly would be the one player that would benefit the most getting another year.

ZZ is great and an elite PG, but he isn't going to take major strides...unless a 2nd ball handler can be added to allow him more opportunities to catch & shoot (like when KC was here)
Mashack and Gainey are both pretty much where they're going to be...both would contribute though and be key pieces but don't know if either has a big jump in production

Igor though...would be able to go into an off-season fully aware of where he needs to improve and how he needs to train for SEC play. Could return and be a dominate big with Felix beside him

 

[MoCo_Vol]

End of the day, I just want the team to play their best ball in March...

Cause the games where we've seen them do that...

at Louisville, 77-55 held them under 27% FG & 3PT while shooting over 50% FG & 3PT
vs Arkansas, 76-52 held them under 38% FG & under 25% 3PT while shooting 39% FG and 38.5% 3PT
at Texas, 74-70 we shot over 42% from FG & 3PT and held them under 30% from deep...if Tre Johnson doesn't have the game he does they lose that one by 20 he hit 11 of their 26 FGs and 4 of their 7 3s by himself.

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

Divert all basketball nil funds to football.

Let’s stop pretending to be an everything school.

 

[KB5252]

End of the day, I just want the team to play their best ball in March...

Cause the games where we've seen them do that...

at Louisville, 77-55 held them under 27% FG & 3PT while shooting over 50% FG & 3PT
vs Arkansas, 76-52 held them under 38% FG & under 25% 3PT while shooting 39% FG and 38.5% 3PT
at Texas, 74-70 we shot over 42% from FG & 3PT and held them under 30% from deep...if Tre Johnson doesn't have the game he does they lose that one by 20 he hit 11 of their 26 FGs and 4 of their 7 3s by himself.

We need to get healthy for that to be a possibility...... Think that's a tall order in the meat of the SEC schedule. Tough to do. Hope we can.