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Then start now. It's a free year

I don't know that we need to start this week. JG is 2-0 against UK. But certainly try someone new against Bama. There are only 2 offenses left on the schedule where we know we will likely need to score a lot of points, Bama and UF. Start HB or one of the sophomores against Bama and see what happens.
 
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Again - JMO.

Mizzou found a QB against us. They tried somebody different. It was obvious he was the right guy for them even though he was not experienced. He learned from the first game and played lights out against a bad LSU D. It's not just the scheme or LSU's bad D, he is a playmaker. You could tell it the minute he came on the field against us.

Georgia found a QB in their first game. They tried somebody different when the O struggled. Somebody that even Georgia thought would be their 3rd or 4th choice. Undersized, not highly recruited. We experienced how much better he is than JG. It's not just the scheme, he is a playmaker.

Ole Miss found a QB. Kiffin conducted a tryout on the field in games. Corral is playing at a high level against strong competition as a sophomore - unlike JG. It's not just the scheme, he is a playmaker.

What are the common denominators? All three of those QB's are playmakers in different schemes. They fit the scheme and make plays outside of the scheme. The other denominator is their HC's were willing to try and make changes at the most important position on the field - during games. Then, they trusted the new QB to start and play well in the following games even if they had to take their lumps early on. Jeremy has not been willing to do that.

The QB is responsible to make calls at the LOS with what he sees from the D's. He cannot always look to the sideline and be told by coaches. Late shifts by the front 7 in particular can disrupt the later. JG has never been able to handle it. He is apparently unable to count the number of defenders in box or see the gaps they will be rushing in games. he definitely has zero feel for the role. The QB cannot always lock on his primary receiver in intermediate routes, which JG does, which leads to sacks, strips and stupid picks. Yes, Chaney did not help things with his play calling in the second half. But it was primarily because of who the QB is. He cannot throw well on the run and is not a threat for running with RPO's. That scheme would have helped to take away some of the strength of UGA's front seven.

We will lose against better competition because our D gets worn down from being on the field too much. By the 4th quarter they are tired and if behind, have lost the fight to come back because they know what they see out of the O. Against lesser competition, they will still have a chance.

So expect more of the same the rest of the season. They will get one half of production from JG like always. In general it will either be the first half based on good game prep by the staff, or, it will be the second half based on good adjustments made by the staff.

I will save recruiting to needs for another post another day. Jeremy is succeeding in some position groups and failing in a couple so far.
Which positions is he failing at in recruiting?
 
Let's all hope Bailey lights up the scrimmage tonight. That's all I got. DB's have to make the plays that come their way. Flowers drop pick that resulted into 7 points for UGA is a play you absolutely have to make when you have a shaky QB on your sideline. Sham just needs to get in game shape, can't really fault the staff for slot woes.
We need a youth movement of sorts. Keyshawn Lawrence needs to play period. Move Alontae to FS please and play Key at corner PLEASE. I keep saying this Alontae is a good football player, Alontae game is best suited for safety because his hips aren't fluid enough.

Wideman, Callaway, Jet & Hyatt. Give them touches please, please. It's the difference in a 9 yard slant going for 12 yards or going for 50 yards. We need more chunk plays in the worst way and Palmer needs help.

O line will be fine, they have a QB with no moxie whatsoever in the pocket. It is what it is, good QBs make o line look a lot better.

Toot is the best LB in the nation IMO, Banks & Crouch are coming along. Tank is a baller, Bryce is a stud & Flowers is growing on me.

This is the SEC, and its a reason that it's not ideal to have 205lb backs as your top 3 options. It takes a guy like Cody Brown to lean on those UGA backers for 4 quarters. Get the Juco back Evans back in fold pronto also IMO.

Last but not least the tight end play is flat out pathetic. It eliminates a phase of the game for us and at this point is a handicap.

Season is not over by any stretch, a lot left to play for. Without a change up at QB tho I fully expect anything from 7-3 to 6-4. If by chance we make a QB change mid Bama game and roll with Bailey then I can see 8-2.
Agree, especially with the statement about the young receivers. We need speed at that position
 
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I don’t know. It didn’t seem like we had a plan at all. We did nothing to counter their blitz attack, they did nothing to loosen up the run game. We just pounded our head into a wall


I didn’t like the protection preparation either, it’s like our scout team didn’t do any of those shifts during the week to prepare our boys. Coaches have to do a better job preparing these guys.
 
Not Tennessee related but how bad is Chad Morris. Winless in the SEC as a head coach. Looks pretty bad as Auburn's offensive coordinator and QB coach as well.
 
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In regards to JG, to me it's really simple. Name the other QB's in the conference that you'd take over JG. If you find 6, that tells you he's very middle of the road. That says a lot with him being 5th year senior.

Personally, this early in the season, I can name at least six if not more.

He’s not even in the top 10 at the position.
 
Yea

An SEC title is going to be won
Bowl games are going to be played
A natty is going to won
Coaches are going to be fired

yea I’ve thought all I need to about it and this year 100% counts

So would you take a mediocre record with a 5th year senior who handicaps the offense or...

A young qb who is getting valuable experience when they don't lose a year of eligibility in the process?


Me, I'm all about the latter.
 
I'll also add that I thought JG was supposed to be on a short leash!? Guess that was BS... I even think I remember @Atlanta VOL saying it... oh well...

Pruitt said after the game he didn’t think changing QB’s would help bc the issue was protection.

Our OL was terrible and our RB’s didn’t pick up blitzes. JG not hanging onto the ball made it even worse but even if he doesn’t fumble those, he still got sacked.

Such a disappointing showing from that OL.
 
In regards to JG, to me it's really simple. Name the other QB's in the conference that you'd take over JG. If you find 6, that tells you he's very middle of the road. That says a lot with him being 5th year senior.

Personally, this early in the season, I can name at least six if not more.

Florida
Bama
Ole miss

only 3 QBs I trade JG for
 
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So would you take a mediocre record with a 5th year senior who handicaps the offense or...

A young qb who is getting valuable experience when they don't lose a year of eligibility in the process?


Me, I'm all about the latter.
This^^^
Obviously we’re not going to the playoffs, and most likely out of the race for the East unless UGA has their annual UGA blunder game... time to look to the future
 
I feel we all, well most, might of been a little buffaloed by what seemed to be a step in the right direction with JG’s poise in the pocket with the first two games and average defenses. He showed us last night he absolutely folds under pressure and struggles to make the right reads pre and post snap.
Ug D is as good as I’ve seen in several years! I was honestly surprised they’re that good, but with the talent they have, they should be.
Our O line, barring 73, did JG or our running backs zero favors last night. I was really disappointed in that.
Can’t really speak for Chaneys game, I’m not a great X and O guy, but it seemed his 2nd and 3rd down play calling put us in bad situations the entire game.
I recall one 3 and one, and we chuck it down field 40 yards and have to punt?!
I never thought we’d beat UG, just hoped we’d keep it close.
I’m over it, bring on the kitty cats!!
 
Those who think we should trot out Harrison and let him learn nothing but getting hosed by these good defenses we still have on our schedule, are short sided and stupid. Bailey hasn’t practiced much and isn’t ready for what this conference can throw at you. Sack up and deal with it. Last week, most of y’all were ready to polish Jarrett’s balls.
That's just plain ole nasty.
 
Pruitt said after the game he didn’t think changing QB’s would help bc the issue was protection.

Our OL was terrible and our RB’s didn’t pick up blitzes. JG not hanging onto the ball made it even worse but even if he doesn’t fumble those, he still got sacked.

Such a disappointing showing from that OL.
starting at the opposite 30 and flipping the field is a huuuuuuuge difference... with the way our defense was playing, we wouldn’t have won the game, but we would have covered
 
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