Recruiting Forum Football Talk II

[MarcoVol]

Is Maurer healthy though? He was battling hamstring problems this fall and those like to linger

Didn’t even know he was having those issues

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Didn’t even know he was having those issues

Yeah. It was one of the reasons Shrout left camp as the 2nd string. He had the most reps Maurer was hurt and Bailey was in quarantine

 

[MarcoVol]

Yeah. It was one of the reasons Shrout left camp as the 2nd string. He had the most reps Maurer was hurt and Bailey was in quarantine

We just can’t have nice things can we

 

[InVOLuntary]

That’s not the Effing argument dummy. Your point was bazelak was better than Jg, then you said because of his running ability he would of been able to get out of those situations against GA if he was our QB. I then showed you stats that say bazelak would of done no better evading the Georgia Defense cause that’s what you brought up. And no i don’t think he’s more athletic than Jg based off one rushing performance against UT. You using that as your argument shows how little you truly know.

Listen dummy (borrowed your term again, thanks), the argument was JGs inability to escape pressure and make something out of a bad situation. You post rushing stats that have zero to do with that. Are you really that dense (used my own derogatory term since you seem to enjoy them) that you can't see where Baelak is better at JG even as a freshman?

 

[Aesius]

AP

Sounds like Bailey is going to get passed up when those guys get here.

Thing with highly rated QBs is that so many of them bust. We're seeing it with JG and have seen it for 4 years. Blue bloods collect 5* QBs like it's nothing and most of them never amount to anything and end up transferring out. Then they find one guy who is pretty good and they go from there. It took Bama 10 years to find a gamebreaking QB in Tua and they pull high 4*s and 5*s annually. I hope Bailey is the answer but it won't be a surprise at all if he isn't.

It's the same with any position really. We get excited over 4*s and the occasional 5* recruits, but to build a bulletproof roster you gotta stockpile those dudes and let the busts take care of themselves. We don't get enough of them so we end up having a few guys pan out, most end up fairly average, and then we also get stuck playing busts because we don't have anyone better.

 

[nashvol1]

I think Salter is the future of Tennessee football.

Then we are 2 more full seasons away after this one if that’s the case as he won’t be winning against the big boys as a true fresh.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

AP

Sounds like Bailey is going to get passed up when those guys get here.

So who the heck do we play next year. Can we please get a QB?

 

[VolGee4]

The int play if he had thrown it to the rb when he saw the blitz it would've gone for a first down and more. Instead he holds onto the ball and makes a stupid throw

I agree he needed to throw it immediately, but I said this yesterday when it happened. Watch Gray. He turns inside when the leverage was outside. I’d like to know from a former RB or player if Gray made the correct read or turn. He didn’t run an angle route; he ran more of a flat route.

JG shouldn’t have thrown it anyway. But we’ve all been critical of JG so much that sometimes we miss other players making mistakes.

 

[drvenner]

Those really good QBs also have a RB who can pass block worth a damn for them also. And if an offensive coordinator doesn’t call a play that gives you a quick developing route then your ish out of luck. Chaney has to give Jg those quick hitches, slants, screens, etc to give him a chance when Ga starts dialing up blitzes like it’s NFL blitz 2000

Or, JG should have enough awareness and the coach's trust to check into something to beat that blitz. Unfortunately, he can't recognize a blitz and isn't trusted enough to have the power to check to a better play.

 

[Volsdeep4]

GA is gonna embarrass every team not named Alabama. Let’s whoop up on UK now.

 

[nashvol1]

Yet certain programs like Mizzou seem to find 3 starts and turn them to 4 stars or 5 stars at QB.

 

[Devo182]

Hate to say it but I’d rather see Clemson win than UGA,

God it's going to be the same dang teams again this year isn't it?? I don't see a surprise team yet. Ugh the tilted recruiting landscape and 1-team conferences (acc, big 12, b1g) are killing cfb parity

 

[Rishvol]

Intresting. He didn't move us after yesterday.

Held our own for 2.5 quarters until TOs took over. I can see us staying for the week

 

[drvenner]

That’s not the Effing argument dummy. Your point was bazelak was better than Jg, then you said because of his running ability he would of been able to get out of those situations against GA if he was our QB. I then showed you stats that say bazelak would of done no better evading the Georgia Defense cause that’s what you brought up. And no i don’t think he’s more athletic than Jg based off one rushing performance against UT. You using that as your argument shows how little you truly know.

Calling people names and sounding all emotional in your post is rarely a good look.

 

[chavisut]

I’m feeling Vols comfortable win on Saturday.

30-10

 

[Devo182]

As much as I want to say JG was terrible. He wasn't. He gave us a chance to win. The two TD's were right on the money. When your RB get blown up at the handoff and your QB is running for his life, That should not happen with the talent we have at O-line. That's a problem.

Also tough when all week we expect we need it to be kept under 20 or 24 points to have a shot and we allow 17 in just the first half and an inch away from 24. If we came in saying the defense would 17 a half, 34 total, I don't think anyone in their right mind would expect a win.

I thought our run defense was pretty stout though. But I had a bad feeling when we gave up 17 pts and over 300 yards in the first half. They moved the ball too easily to feel comfortable.

 

[Devo182]

I’m feeling Vols comfortable win on Saturday.

30-10

Wonder what the spread will be after UK's wonky win yesterday and our tale of 2 halves game...

I'm thinking around a TD difference maybe.

 

[PlanetVolunteer]

I think JG starts bc of experience and knowledge and bc the coaches think he is the least likely QB to turn the ball over.

It’s a much too conservative way to think on O in today’s college football. Maurer slings it around and is prone to more mistakes but that dude brings energy and moxie to the game and this is a game of momentum.

I think Pruitt prob thought we weren’t good enough previously to play any other QB bc we couldn’t survive turnovers. But now, the D is much improved. I love JG’s heart but I’d insert Maurer into the lineup and see if he can make plays. Risk/reward. I’d take the risk.

**none of this has anything to do with the game against UGA. This is just overall my feelings on how we take the next step. Gotta find the QB who makes the difference. Could be BM. Could be Shrout. Could be Bailey. But gotta find them**

I agree. If Maurer was as good, if not better in certain aspects than JG last year then the same is very likely to be true this year.

 

[PlanetVolunteer]

Also tough when all week we expect we need it to be kept under 20 or 24 points to have a shot and we allow 17 in just the first half and an inch away from 24. If we came in saying the defense would 17 a half, 34 total, I don't think anyone in their right mind would expect a win.

I thought our run defense was pretty stout though. But I had a bad feeling when we gave up 17 pts and over 300 yards in the first half. They moved the ball too easily to feel comfortable.

Yeah at that point I was thinking our offense needed to at least get a field goal on the opening drive of the second half, because it was obvious we weren't going to shut them out the rest of the way, but disaster ensued.

 

[therickbol]

Today is where 68 4/5 star players played 35 4/5 star players. The next highest behind UGA is UF with 37. Minus Bama we should compete with anyone left on the schedule including UF. A good qb today and we overcome the talent disparity. The defense keyed on the run and didn’t have to respect the pass. We hit a couple long ones and they didn’t care cause they knew JG could not do that all game. No other team minus Bama on our schedule will have the defense to do that. Still need better qb play

Too much logic and common sense. Your post has been reported admin.

 

[Crazy Ivan]

I think JG starts bc of experience and knowledge and bc the coaches think he is the least likely QB to turn the ball over.

It’s a much too conservative way to think on O in today’s college football. Maurer slings it around and is prone to more mistakes but that dude brings energy and moxie to the game and this is a game of momentum.

I think Pruitt prob thought we weren’t good enough previously to play any other QB bc we couldn’t survive turnovers. But now, the D is much improved. I love JG’s heart but I’d insert Maurer into the lineup and see if he can make plays. Risk/reward. I’d take the risk.

**none of this has anything to do with the game against UGA. This is just overall my feelings on how we take the next step. Gotta find the QB who makes the difference. Could be BM. Could be Shrout. Could be Bailey. But gotta find them**

Maurer is reportedly the #4 QB right now because he basically got no fall camp. And HB is reportedly nowhere near ready since he missed spring ball and much of fall camp due to contact tracing. If they start any new it will be Strout, which is fine if he can now read defenses and align the offense properly. If not then he just becomes another liability at the position.

I don't think you make a change this week just because of how we fare against UGA. That defense is not a good barometer. If everyone on offense around JG had played well and we could point to JG as the singular problem, then yes. But other than the receivers making a few good plays the entire offense stunk it up against arguably the best defense in CFB. I want to see how the offense comes off the mat this coming week against a solid, but not great, UK defense.

Against Bama, where we know we will need to score 30+ points, then start Strout, or whichever QB is most ready, and roll with it.

 

[therickbol]

UGA is far and away the best defense we'll face this year.

Far, far, far and away....not even close. Our offense will put up points against every other team we play.

 

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

Listen dummy (borrowed your term again, thanks), the argument was JGs inability to escape pressure and make something out of a bad situation. You post rushing stats that have zero to do with that. Are you really that dense (used m own derogatory term since you seem to enjoy them) that you can't see where Baelak is better at JG even as a freshman?

It’s not worth it. He is obviously a child and has zero concept of football. No one can argue that JG is a top level QB in the SEC.

 

[therickbol]

I think Gray is pretty good.
Ty Chandler is pretty average imo.

Running the football is part of their job. Pass protection is another part. They are both very mediocre in pass protection.

 

[Crazy Ivan]

I could be wrong but i havent seen him change anything at the line that wasn’t signaled in all year

Maybe someone can discredit that but I don’t recall a single play

I'm almost positive that at some point earlier this season either Pruitt or Chaney said JG makes checks at the line. I won't say with 100% certainly, but I am sure that I heard it because when I did it really caught my attention because up to that point I had not assumed staff was allowing it.