Recruiting Forum Football Talk II

[mr.checkerboards]

It’s really so comical how you guys forget the good JG does for the convenience of trying to make a point when jt fact it makes your opinions less informed.




JG had a number of beautiful throws in just the last game but you guys keep posting your “when was the last time our QBs made a pass like that” nonsense to try and make a point all
You want even if it makes you guys look like you aren’t even watching the games.

And apparently you don't read conversations you aren't involved in and just jump in with you schtick whenever you want. The question was when was the last time JG threw a back should've fade with excellent ball placement and where only his receiver could get it. The answer is he hasn't this year. Has he made some decent deep throws yes, has he made a throw similar to the one in question, no

 

[volatil]

I don’t remember any throws like that throw.

Probably because you had already broken your television after we got a turnover at midfield then ran 3 straight times and punted. Can’t open the offense up until the horses are already out of the barn.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Dude I feel like over the summer me and you were the only ones preaching about this fools gold and we got absolutely flamed for it...different year same dude..nothing has changed no improvements.I can’t wait till he’s gone and Chris weinke is fired!...what will this say about Pruitt as a HC when JG leaves and we start winning games next year that we wouldn’t have won with JG!?!..I’ve already got my statement written out on what I’ll say..

Yes. A lot of people thought he had turned the corner, then after USC and Mizziou a lot of people wanted crow, I said wait until UGA because I had still seen the same mistakes he had been making last year. 3 weeks later lo and behold here we are.

 

[UT = Checkmate]

Ask VQ what happened to the 1 or 2 big time recruits we were supposedly in a great spot for.

Kentucky

 

[cHiZzLeVOL]

Probably because you had already broken your television after we got a turnover at midfield then ran 3 straight times and punted. Can’t open the offense up until the horses are already out of the barn.

I forced myself to go to sleep lol

 

[cHiZzLeVOL]

It’s really so comical how you guys forget the good JG does for the convenience of trying to make a point when jt fact it makes your opinions less informed.




JG had a number of beautiful throws in just the last game but you guys keep posting your “when was the last time our QBs made a pass like that” nonsense to try and make a point all
You want even if it makes you guys look like you aren’t even watching the games.

I don’t need to make any points. JG sucks period. Even the national media knows that. Is he capable of making great throws? Yes he is. Do I trust him to and to be consistent? Nope.

Our offense was extremely hampered against Alabama because our coaching staff didn’t trust him to throw the ball.

 

[VOLSONLY]

It’s really so comical how you guys forget the good JG does for the convenience of trying to make a point when jt fact it makes your opinions less informed.




JG had a number of beautiful throws in just the last game but you guys keep posting your “when was the last time our QBs made a pass like that” nonsense to try and make a point all
You want even if it makes you guys look like you aren’t even watching the games.

Growing up I had 2 brothers we played back yard football all the time. I was always the WR, we had a play called the bitly, it was the long ball. Needless to say they ran me to death lol. JG had some pretty long balls but everything else was meh. Chaney can’t call the bitly every down lol

 

[thunderduck17]

So you think that 175 yards passing and 2 TDs (what he had vs Bama) can beat aTM or Florida? This is the one point i can't agree with you on. Not to mention Bama didn't even blitz us and he still only completed like 54% of his passes vs them.

175 yards, 2 TD's, zero turnovers and a strong rushing effort? Yes, I think that would be enough to be right there with either of those teams.

 

[volinbama256]

BT standing out so much is because the rest of our DB’s are really underwhelming. He’s a solid player, but i think he’s a bit overrated and doesn’t seem to have gotten much better since his freshmen season

Yes, our secondary is very underwhelming and overrated.. AT has been a big disappointment thus far, not improving. I still laugh when Hank Hill said he was going to be a first round draft pick... kid still can't get through a single game without blowing coverage, giving up a big play, or missing/whiffing on many tackles. He can block though...

 

[BruinVol]

And apparently you don't read conversations you aren't involved in and just jump in with you schtick whenever you want. The question was when was the last time JG threw a back should've fade with excellent ball placement and where only his receiver could get it. The answer is he hasn't this year. Has he made some decent deep throws yes, has he made a throw similar to the one in question, no

I know what the question was. JG has thrown some good back shoulder throws. Go watch the Georgia game if you want to make us think you actually watched the games to get these opinions

 

[Jwbvol]

Thank God baseball is over

 

[BJWeeks]

Salter is going to get here and he is going to be amazing.

But Pruitt will play someone else. Probably Bailey or 8th year JG

Bailey should be awesome when giving the chance. He was a 5 star for a reason

 

[BruinVol]

Growing up I had 2 brothers we played back yard football all the time. I was always the WR, we had a play called the bitly, it was the long ball. Needless to say they ran me to death lol. JG had some pretty long balls but everything else was meh. Chaney can’t call the bitly every down lol

I agree the long ball isn’t the angle you want to argue if you are trying to make a point about JG being bad. In facts he’s damn good at the deep ball including the back shoulder throw

 

[BJWeeks]

My take on the QB situation...

- Maurer gives us a better chance to beat the top tier teams (Bama, UGA, UF). He is much more of a playmaker than JG is.

- JG gives us a better chance of beating the average SEC teams (Carolina, Mizzou, Kentucky, Auburn, etc.) The reason being that, for the most part, he is the safer play. He knows the offense well and doesn't have a ton of turnovers where he is not pressured (outside of this year's Kentucky game). It is when we are outmatched and he is forced to create because of the defensive pressure that you see JG really become a turnover machine (see UGA this year.) When you look back at our 8 game winning streak, that is what he was doing for us. He wasn't pushing for the big play because he is incapable of creating something on his own. He can hit a deep ball here or there, but that is about it. He won't make a big play out of nothing like Maurer could. I think the issue with Maurer is that he will try to create something bigger when something just fine is staring him right in the face. That works sometimes...but it also will result in unforced turnovers.

- Pruitt has proven that he can beat the average SEC teams with JG at the helm if he protects the football. Is it boring? Yes. Is it better than losing? Yes. The only way JG will get benched permanently is if he performs like he did against Kentucky again. Those turnovers were unforced and inexcusable. If he does not protect the football, he loses his one and only asset that he provides to this team.

- The only thing that I think could disrupt the status quo of JG getting the start is if Bailey continues to progress. If he can offer you more big play ability WITH the ability to not cause unforced turnovers, I believe Pruitt will make the switch. I would assume Pruitt does not feel Bailey is at that point yet.

- So, who gives us the "best opportunity to win"? Against the rest of the schedule, I honestly believe it is JG. I really wish it could be a better playmaking guy, but it is what it is. Since Miss State last year, JG has only had one loss to the average SEC teams. Will he ever be able to beat a UGA or Bama? No. But there are no more Bama's or UGA's on the schedule. I don't consider A&M or Florida on that level. If JG plays like he did against Bama, we could beat anybody the rest of the way.

This season is already garbage. Why not start Harrison Bailey the rest of the season. So that he has game experience going into next year. If he doesn't then we will be having the same conversations next year that Harrison is young and still learning the offense

 

[SouthKnoxVOL]

Update on my MiL: She had surgery last night. They went up through her arm with a tube to place a coil in the back of her head to stop the bleeding. They said she bled more than they would have liked but everything went to plan. This morning though they're having a hard time getting her to wake up and respond to them. They think she still has too much fluid on her brain and they might Have to put a vent in to drain the fluid out. Keep the prayers going guys. We appreciate it.

 

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

My take on the QB situation...

- Maurer gives us a better chance to beat the top tier teams (Bama, UGA, UF). He is much more of a playmaker than JG is.

- JG gives us a better chance of beating the average SEC teams (Carolina, Mizzou, Kentucky, Auburn, etc.) The reason being that, for the most part, he is the safer play. He knows the offense well and doesn't have a ton of turnovers where he is not pressured (outside of this year's Kentucky game). It is when we are outmatched and he is forced to create because of the defensive pressure that you see JG really become a turnover machine (see UGA this year.) When you look back at our 8 game winning streak, that is what he was doing for us. He wasn't pushing for the big play because he is incapable of creating something on his own. He can hit a deep ball here or there, but that is about it. He won't make a big play out of nothing like Maurer could. I think the issue with Maurer is that he will try to create something bigger when something just fine is staring him right in the face. That works sometimes...but it also will result in unforced turnovers.

- Pruitt has proven that he can beat the average SEC teams with JG at the helm if he protects the football. Is it boring? Yes. Is it better than losing? Yes. The only way JG will get benched permanently is if he performs like he did against Kentucky again. Those turnovers were unforced and inexcusable. If he does not protect the football, he loses his one and only asset that he provides to this team.

- The only thing that I think could disrupt the status quo of JG getting the start is if Bailey continues to progress. If he can offer you more big play ability WITH the ability to not cause unforced turnovers, I believe Pruitt will make the switch. I would assume Pruitt does not feel Bailey is at that point yet.

- So, who gives us the "best opportunity to win"? Against the rest of the schedule, I honestly believe it is JG. I really wish it could be a better playmaking guy, but it is what it is. Since Miss State last year, JG has only had one loss to the average SEC teams. Will he ever be able to beat a UGA or Bama? No. But there are no more Bama's or UGA's on the schedule. I don't consider A&M or Florida on that level. If JG plays like he did against Bama, we could beat anybody the rest of the way.

I respectfully disagree. It only takes one bad play for JG to fall apart and cost us the game. This is exactly what happened at Kentucky and I am sure he has another one of those in him. Plus, I do not think 17 points and 164 pass yards can beat Arkansas, Texas AM, or UF. Maybe Auburn... We are beating Vandy with whoever. If Maurer gives you the best chance to best the big boy’s (which this job is measured upon) then he is our best option. IMO of course!

 

[volinbama256]

It’s really so comical how you guys forget the good JG does for the convenience of trying to make a point when jt fact it makes your opinions less informed.




JG had a number of beautiful throws in just the last game but you guys keep posting your “when was the last time our QBs made a pass like that” nonsense to try and make a point all
You want even if it makes you guys look like you aren’t even watching the games.

it's also comical how you can't see that even if he makes some good throws like last weekend, he follows them up with about 6 important passes where he is flat-footed, no pressure, and can't throw it in the same zip code as the wide open WR... or in year 5 he can't identify pressure/blitzes and acts like he doesn't know or can't see two guys about to blow him up until it's too late... or still staring down the primary so that opposing secondary's can see exactly where he's throwing it before he throws it and doesn't go through his progressions... it's all about consistency, and he has had maybe 3 games in 5yrs where he's been consistent throughout a single game. He makes just 4 of the 6-7 blown passes last weekend and we keep drives alive and maybe even put more points on the board, changing the dynamic of the game. I won't get started on the amount of turnovers that have resulted in TD's for the other team so far this season................ in year FIVE.

 

[Chuckie]

They didn't get the test results until the 7th inning? Just when you thought it could not get any more bizarre, 2020 says hold my beer.

There was one report that during the second inning his test from Monday came in with an inconclusive result. So they proceeded to process the test from yesterday and got the positive result, which is when he was pulled.

But, during the later coverage well after the game was over, the studio guys had Ken rosenthal on the phone and he reported that turner had positive results both Monday and yesterday.

Maybe that’s why manfred was so disoriented...if MLB had any knowledge of those results and broke their stated protocols so as to not have to delay a WS game.

 

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

Update on my MiL: She had surgery last night. They went up through her arm with a tube to place a coil in the back of her head to stop the bleeding. They said she bled more than they would have liked but everything went to plan. This morning though they're having a hard time getting her to wake up and respond to them. They think she still has too much fluid on her brain and they might Have to put a vent in to drain the fluid out. Keep the prayers going guys. We appreciate it.

Thanks for the update. God is with her and He will come through.

 

[VOLSONLY]

I agree the long ball isn’t the angle you want to argue if you are trying to make about a point about JG being bad. In facts he’s damn good at the deep ball including the back shoulder throw

He’s a 5th year senior that is a below average. For UT to take the next step we’ve got to have better qb play, plain and simple

 

[BruinVol]

I don’t remember any throws like that throw.

Let me help your memory

 

[mr.checkerboards]

I know what the question was. JG has thrown some good back shoulder throws. Go watch the Georgia game if you want to make us think you actually watched the games to get these opinions

I did watch that game. He made 2 throws where the reciever had a step and threw it outside thats not back shoulder. Go watch Baileys throw he hasn't made 1 anywhere close to that this year. Every decent throw JG had made this year the reciever has had a step.

 

[SouthKnoxVOL]

Of course JG has made some nice throws but that's not necessarily the problem. The problem is that he is so inconsistent with his throws and has way too many mental breakdowns for a 5th year senior.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Let me help your memory

That ball was under thrown and thrown inside. If Palmer doesn't make a great play thats a pick

 

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

175 yards, 2 TD's, zero turnovers and a strong rushing effort? Yes, I think that would be enough to be right there with either of those teams.

Wow! If you think we are holding UF under 17 points, I have no words. We will need to score at least 30 to win. Their offense is no joke.