Recruiting Forum Football Talk II

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Bassmaster_Vol said:
Exactly. I mean, if HB comes out and sucks, the fans are going to be okay with JG trotting back out there. But I can't see how HB can't do at least what JG was doing against Arkansas. How hard is it to hand the ball off and pass 8 times a half?
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And if that’s the gameplan Chaney trots out against Auburn? Get Osovet out of the booth and do the Brumbaugh thing.
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UTSuave’ said:
f*** that open up the damn playbook.you know how long it’s been since I’ve seen a beautifully placed 40+ deep ball?..over a year! And HB has far better arm strength!...for 4 years we have been playing behind the sticks.it’s time that changes.no more wheel routes
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Uh, you saw that to Hyatt against Bama like 2 weeks ago
 
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Smyrna ATL Vol said:
It makes too much sense for Pruitt. I won’t feel one bit sorry next year when the fans are relentless to him. If he played Bailey all year, we could have given this year a pass. But nope, he drowned the season doing things his way.
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I was against trading wins to develop players...hardly the case anymore. You limit yourself, you cost yourself wins.
 
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JohnnyMajorsFlask said:
How about this for a 2021 coaching staff?
Offense
Co-OC/OL: Jim Chaney
Co-OC/TE: Chip Long
QB: Joe Osovet
RB: Jay Graham
WR: Tee Martin

Defense
Co-DC/Secondary: Derrick Ansley
Co-DC/DL: Bo Davis
ILB: Lance Thompson
OLB: Tosh Lupoi
ST/Recruiting Coordinator: Brian Neidermeyer
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Better without Chaney. A good OC doesn’t give up on a top hs QB without giving him a shot and by all reports they barely gave him reps in practice. Chaneys lack of creativity and scheming is a major concern.
 
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jakez4ut said:
i mean it's easy to go back and armchair this now.

but there werne't a lot of people that were shedding tears upon Tracy Rocker's departure. i think everyone agreed, good "coach", but total liability in recruiting, a la Jay Hardy et al.............i.e. there was sound reasoning, that was widely accepted, for making the move. now, we can gripe about who we hired, CJB, especially now knowing how bad a fit it wound up being....but as usual, firing wasn't hte issue....it was the hiring.

Shelton Felton..i think, at best, all you can say is it's TBD, but early returns don't show a ton.....and i think while we all agree Nieds has a place on this staff, w/out Daniel Bituli, the ILB's look a lot different.....so maybe that, too, is at best TBD.....

on offense, i think you can look at Weinke, Friend and Chaney and have legitimage issues with what's been put out there. but i don't see all 3 of those guys getting whacked...

anyway, safe to say, changes are coming again....so we'll see, and it all will go back to TBD status. lol.
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No question, we're fickle as fans. Recruits say they aren't getting enough attention and we want harder working recruiters and assume they'll be just as good coaches/teacher. Players show lack of development and we want better coaches/teachers because if you can't get them ready to play, what does it matter.

So here's my question, do we have a cohesive team or just a bunch of spare parts? Sure seems like JP has a bunch of spare parts that he's trying to manage individually. My take, CJP is a fireman running from truck to truck and ladder to ladder just putting out fires instead of managing. On top of that it also sure seems like CPF is having to do a lot of CJP's "program building" duties for him as well.

Surely Pruitt's contract lays out what his basic responsibilities are. If he's not meeting those, or isn't willing to meet them because he just doesn't want to do that part of the job, then we negotiate a mutual separation not a full buyout because he's not met the threshold of his contract. Pruitt seems like he's caught the car and realized he didn't want it. If true, there ought to be some options here if everyone will be honest and upfront with each other.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
I'm really hoping that Chaney is let go and that Long is promoted to OC for next year.
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This is the move that no one is talking about. I you don’t (or can’t) get Freeze you could make that move and this staff would be elite on both sides of the ball. Dave Bartoo is an analytics guy that I follow and he has Long as a top tier OC while Chaney is a career bottom tier OC (third worst in the conference rn). Plus Long runs an offense with a reasonable tempo that will play well with CJP. If there is a hope for Pruitt to rebound this is it. Chaney just isn’t good enough even with good QB play. Oh also Pruitt needs to be calling plays on D. He is top 5 in the country at it. Playcalling is an art and it isn’t as simple as running the same system with the same players = the same result.
 
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JohnnyMajorsFlask said:
How about this for a 2021 coaching staff?
Offense
Co-OC/OL: Jim Chaney
Co-OC/TE: Chip Long
QB: Joe Osovet
RB: Jay Graham
WR: Tee Martin

Defense
Co-DC/Secondary: Derrick Ansley
Co-DC/DL: Bo Davis
ILB: Lance Thompson
OLB: Tosh Lupoi
ST/Recruiting Coordinator: Brian Neidermeyer
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The defensive staff would be great. I don't see us getting all 3 of those coaches.

Osovet is a good recruiter, but we need a proven QB coach.
 
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drvenner said:
Or is it Hugh Ray? Didn't he own a club in the old city back in the day? Maybe call Hoo-rays?
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That's so funny, I had thought about working Hugh Ray into a joke there but left it alone, figured it was too obscure a reference.

But yeah, Hugh Ray Wilson was the Hooray's guy. I knew his son Hugh Jr a bit back in the 90s. Good dude.
 
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The more I think about it the more I realize there is no need to think about it. Freeze is right there and we need a coach.

Who wins more games next year, pruitt in year 4 or freeze in year 1? We have a guy getting paid over 4 million dollars a year to take a dump on the sidelines every week. We dont owe him anything beyond what that contract states. Go get freeze and lets win some games.
 
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