Recruiting Forum Football Talk II

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Y'all are gonna think I'm crazy, but I'll admit to being a little Bri-curious. Feels like we need an offensive-minded, innovative coach.

Only for OC

 

[OrangenSC]

Except it isn't. Everyone you're talking about either isn't coming here or is, at best, another "gee I hope it pans out" hire. Freeze is proven. He's had success in this league at one of the worst programs in this league.

But what has he proven? He’s proven that in one season he can win 10 out of 13 games. That’s all he’s “proven”. No way our fans would settled for that.

And he did that as a result of blatant cheating. Have to assume that he tones that down here. Then what?

Of all names I’ve heard, I agree he’s probably the best coach. But he certainly isn’t proven. Not to the level we should want.

 

[Catbone]

People act like Pittman will have them contenders... they’ll never be more than 6-8 wins on good years unless they fluke a season like under Petrino.

Still very much outperforming Tennessee !

 

[Devo182]

Sark I have mixed feelings on. I like the thought of the next HC being someone with really good offensive experience. But he didn't do anything special in his brief tenure at USC and was known as 7-win Sark at UW, which got to be pretty good under Petersen (who is probably a generational coach, to be fair). I don't know. It's a roll of the dice, but so many things are.

He's a mediocre HC and fans didn't even want him as OC (especially Falcons fans)...one stint "coaching" Saban's boys and people think he is great all a sudden It's laughable how Saban tricks everyone (see: Maryland) into thinking those below him are doing something special with all his talent and coaching.

 

[MrVolton]

Ok. Thanks

I'll keep on hitting the Google machine. Maybe there's something I'm still missing with Doug Marrone.

*It seems like if he was to get hired, Vol fans would have to talk themselves into believing he could win big here. Almost seems like the past 4 coaching hires. I think we'd be coach shopping again in 3-4 years

The previous HC at Syracuse was something like 10-37 in his 4 years there. In Marrone’s 4 years, he had two 8 win seasons and a conference title. That’s a pretty impressive turnaround, I don’t care what conference you’re in.

 

[Cosmo Kramer]

I wish we had Arkansas staff... They're going to be pretty good in a few years. I'd also still take Leach over Pruitt.

Odom will be a head coach in 2022

 

[31VFL]

He's a mediocre HC and fans didn't even want him as OC (especially Falcons fans)...one stint "coaching" Saban's boys and people think he is great all a sudden It's laughable how Saban tricks everyone (see: Maryland) into thinking those below him are doing something special with all his talent and coaching.

If we were going to hire a Saban OC, give me Daboll who moved on to the Bills.

 

[Devo182]

He’s recruited well. Best players on this team are freshman and sophomores.

None of which were really able to be developed this offseason.

But again, Gump bad. Freeze or I’m done!!!!

Recruiting is moot if you can't coach, prepare, develop, and scheme with said talent.

Get us someone who can do more with less...the talent will take care of itself.

 

[drvenner]

Like Hank said, he beats the 4 OOC and KY, Candy, SC, and MZ. Freeze can do that consistently.

Probably true, but nothing is guaranteed, is all I am saying.

 

[drvenner]

Hypothetical: Freeze is hired.

Which Freeze Champion poster is first to turn on him when he
A. Doesn’t win more than 6 games by year 3

OR

B. Gets UT in huge trouble and sanctioned by NCAA?

Go.

yes

 

[MrVolton]

Recruiting is moot if you can't coach, prepare, develop, and scheme with said talent.

Get us someone who can do more with less...the talent will take care of itself.

This.

 

[Geronimo]

Any coffee nerds in here?

Just made a fresh pour over for relative and they immediately put flavored creamer in it. Broke my heart.
@Big Gucci Sosa

@utvols88

 

[drvenner]

If he didn't win more than 6 games by year 3? All of us would be against him. What kind of question is that? Good thing is it wouldn't happen.

Yeah, cause he won't be here.

 

[drvenner]

What does UT have to lose with Hugh Freeze? We’re already at rock bottom. At least we tried even if it goes down in flames. He’s the most accomplished and surest thing out of anybody we could hire. He’s going to be back in the league at some point and will kick our butts somewhere else if we don’t hire him.

Hiring guys that we hope work out should be over. He’s worth the risk and it’s time to make it happen.

Never say we are already at rock bottom. We can always drop even more. Always.

 

[VOLUNTEERSZN]

Not they won't. Briles will be gone next year and Odom will be gone shortly after that also. Pittman made excellent hires there, when they're gone, then what happens?

Arkansas caught lightning in a bottle too early. Pittman made REALLY smart moves as a first year coach and he’s seeing benefits in the record but it’s gonna cost them 2-3 years down the line. Both coordinators we’ll be lined up for better jobs soon. They’re not recruiting very well either.

 

[Ace]

Odom will be a head coach in 2022

And he will be a DC in 2025

 

[thunderduck17]

If Pruitt would have stepped into 2018 with a Sophomore Josh Dobbs instead of a Sophomore Jarrett Guarantano, would that have made him a better coach the past 3 years?

 

[Catbone]

Odom will be a head coach in 2022

I'd take him

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

If Pruitt would have stepped into 2018 with a Sophomore Josh Dobbs instead of a Sophomore Jarrett Guarantano, would that have made him a better coach the past 3 years?

Yes

 

[Devo182]

Regardless. The buyout combined with the loss in revenue prohibits a move this year. I know I am raining on the flight tracker parade but it's the reality we are living in right now.

Similar costs will be there next year, just a bit less. Buyout is like 60% of salary. The difference is hardly material IF you're just going to have to fire him next year because everyone knows he's not the guy.

And meanwhile we dump money on 3+ assistant changes, probably have to shell out BIG on 2-3 year contracts for big names...

Down ticket sales...down donations...

So really, are we saving much of anything?

 

[Kingston Vol]

And he will be a DC in 2025

 

[drvenner]

For sure. And I think Nutt was a fine recruiter in his own regard.

Nutt was pretty good at defending his compliance record while at Ole Miss.

Also, I think he is one of the main reasons the SEC decided to go to a 25 player per year limit on scholarships. I think he signed like 40 or so his first year there.

 

[engineerVOL]

Any coffee nerds in here?

Just made a fresh pour over for relative and they immediately put flavored creamer in it. Broke my heart.
@Big Gucci Sosa

Sacrelig

 

[MrVolton]

He's a mediocre HC and fans didn't even want him as OC (especially Falcons fans)...one stint "coaching" Saban's boys and people think he is great all a sudden It's laughable how Saban tricks everyone (see: Maryland) into thinking those below him are doing something special with all his talent and coaching.

It’s hard to judge his one full season at USC, but he did win 9 while still feeling the effects of sanctions. The turnaround job he did at Washington was impressive to me, especially considering the Huskies were winless the year before he got there and may have won 10 games the previous 3 years combined.

 

[drvenner]

My list.

1. Hugh Freeze - make it happen
2. Joe Brady - NFL stay likely
3. Luke Fickle - Big 10 lifer most likely
4. Matt Campbell - Highly unlikely

I don’t want to hear another name. I will throw the things

I sincerely hope your man fruit is vigilantly guarded.