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Vols4us said:
So if we believe Freeze has matured and grown as a coach and person, how can we not believe the same thing of Sark? Remove your bumbling Falcons fanboy viewpoints. Even Saban and Spurier failed in the NFL and they had total control. Sark was just an OC doing a job to rebuild his career and learn.

Both Freeze and Sark had falls from grace after being successful in the younger days of their careers. Both did the work, matured and are better for it now. Both are brilliant offensive minds. Both have SEC and HC experience. So many on here would take Kiffin back in a heartbeat and wish he had never left. Kiffin says Sark is his equal from an offense standpoint and that he will be a HC soon. He's already turned down Colorado last year to wait on a better opportunity.

Maybe OC is his Peter Principle top spot. Odds are it is not, just like being at Liberty is not Freeze's. There are no clean major options for UT that do not involve a wannabe or a redemption story. They will not blow open the piggy bank to make it happen. So, I'm all in on Freeze or Sark. Either could grow into a NC type coach IMO. I don't see Campbell coming. He would be a good hire, but I see him going B10 or NFL. If we go wannabe, I prefer Napier or Chadwell.
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Everyone acts like they know how someone would do here. Everyone has their own opinion of who is a "wannabe" or not up to standard. I agree with you on Napier and/or Chadwell. Think back to the OC search and how many people went nuts when Drinkowitz name came up. Now, how many of those would be good with him replacing Pruitt. There is no sure thing.
 
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MrVolton said:
The previous HC at Syracuse was something like 10-37 in his 4 years there. In Marrone’s 4 years, he had two 8 win seasons and a conference title. That’s a pretty impressive turnaround, I don’t care what conference you’re in.
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I don't think that will fly with most TN fans. I've been researching him for about an hour and I can't see how this would excite the fans and blow the recruits away. I wouldn't like it
 
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RiotVol said:
Depends on if he kept playing Worley if it “gave them the best chance to win.”
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I get annoyed by the "he gives us the best chance to win" as anyone else, but from what we have seen from the other QB's, has that statement actually been proven wrong? The only possibility left that might prove it wrong is Bailey and I just find it hard to believe that a man would play a QB that he thinks is worse than someone else on the roster.

I completely understand the disappointment with this year's results. I'm disappointed. I blame Pruitt for not having a better QB on the roster than JG in year 3. That's on him and nobody else. However, I'm still impressed with his ability to run off 8 straight wins when JG was clearly your best QB. I don't care who you are playing, that's close to pulling off a dang miracle.

I'm all for giving Pruitt all of 2021 with a QB that is either Bailey, Salter or a transfer. See what happens. If we have a 3 or 4 win season, then you have to make a move. Another thing to remember is that in a normal year, we would have most likely went 3-5 vs the SEC with a Vandy win. Count OU as a loss and you are looking at a 6-6 year. Not a great year, but not the disaster that 3-7 looks like.
 
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Leeleesteeth said:
Everyone acts like they know how someone would do here. Everyone has their own opinion of who is a "wannabe" or not up to standard. I agree with you on Napier and/or Chadwell. Think back to the OC search and how many people went nuts when Drinkowitz name came up. Now, how many of those would be good with him replacing Pruitt. There is no sure thing.
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Pretty sure Butch interviewed Drinkwitz for OC at one point. Also, I know...I know...Grumors, but there was a report that Gruden met with Drinkwitz in the fall of 2017.

I’m not just saying this in hindsight...that would have been a great OC hire at any point.
 
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Kingston Vol said:
I see you've decided to zig when everyone else has zagged. I understand it, and the hipster in me respects it, but your commitment to the schtick has blinded you to the fact that I've neither called Pruitt "Gump" nor am I advocating for Hugh Freeze.

We're on pace for 3-7 in Year 3. That's not acceptable. Defend it all you want.
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We are not going to win another game with Pruitt. Have a chance against Vanderbilt if Bailey starts. Pruitt will start jg and you know it.
 
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TN-POSSUM said:
I don't think that will fly with most TN fans. I've been researching him for about an hour and I can't see how this would excite the fans and blow the recruits away. I wouldn't like it
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From 10-37 to conference champs in year 4 impresses me, not to mention all the NFL experience fwiw. I’m afraid nothing short of Urban Meyer or Freeze is going fully excite the fans and blow recruits away. Meyer ain’t happening and I’m just afraid Freeze won’t get all the signatures (Inside the program and/or outside the program) necessary to make the hire.
 
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MrVolton said:
People short-changing Marrone and Sarkisian (provided he has conquered his demons), remind me of the Mehlin crowd. You can see how that has gone.
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If that's a shot my way then your off on your comparisons. Marrone to Mullen is like apples to oranges. I didn't have to Google Mullen to know he did a very good job at MSU. I saw some of his games while he was at MSU and I didn't have to Google who he helped get drafted. I bet the ones that's responded to any of my posts asking why Doug Marrone would be a good coach here, had to google something about him to support their side. He might be the answer for us but I've not found anything that makes me believe he would be.

*I've not researched Sark yet.
 
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Lessons Pruitt might have learned : prepare for every game (Ga St), qb is a big deal (and back up qb), what kind of assistants to hire, there is no such thing as a throw away season. It’s not as obvious to me as it is to others that he’ll never be successful. We felt pretty good at the end of last year and this year has been such an unusual year (especially for a new coach). Also, if this had been a normal year you could probably add 2 to 3 wins because of the all sec schedule. We can blame Aub, Ky and Ark games on qb - hopefully lesson learned - and we were going to lose the other games anyway. My biggest concern is the chatter about his attitude. If he doesn’t want to be here (appreciate it) I don’t want him here. I’d like to hear more from those in the know about that.
 
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millst987 said:
Freeze is begging
He’s hungry AF too to prove himself
He will wreck the east
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Even if he didn't win a championship, it would sure be a lot of fun putting up 45 points a game. We would win a lot of games and I believe he is a championship caliber coach. Would love to see what he could do here. Some are just resigned to us being terrible so let's hire another unproven! Not me, I want a guy who we know can win at a high level. That's Hugh Freeze.
 
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BruinVol said:
you really don’t want to go thru the QBs on Mullens resume

I’m not willing to give any credit to an OC working under Mullen.
All the credit goes to him.
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Yeah, just saying he was the actual QB coach at Miss St for Prescott and Fitzgerald. He was OC at Houston then back to UF as QB coach and OC. He played for Meyer/Mullen and then Whittingham at Utah and was the QB when they blew out Bama in the Sugar Bowl.
 
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