Recruiting Forum Football Talk II

[Kingston Vol]

VA Tech fans are wishing for this to happen.

Yeah, my thinking is he’ll be fired around the same time Pruitt is.

Fuente?

I like Fuente, but he wouldn’t be at the top of my list either.

I just remember him being Fulmer’s first call in 2017 (at Cutcliffe’s recommendation) and I think he might try it again.

This article doesn’t fully mention it, but it’s the best I could find.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ining-to-even-talk-job-offers/?outputType=amp

 

[drvenner]

Fl only has to score 21 to win

At this point, my best hope for the season is to not get shut out. I think the last time we were was like 1994, or something like that.

 

[Weezer]

Can confirm. They're ready to clean-house just about.

Swoop in and steal Shane Beamer from SCar.

 

[drvenner]

Line was 30 in 2009. But as we know with Kiffin we lost 13-23. Now that's coaching.

It was 23-6 until we got a long fumble return from EB. It was about to go to 24, but still, it was closer than many thought.

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

Yeah, my thinking is he’ll be fired around the same time Pruitt is.



I like Fuente, but he wouldn’t be at the top of my list either.

I just remember him being Fulmer’s first call in 2017 (at Cutcliffe’s recommendation) and I think he might try it again.

This article doesn’t fully mention it, but it’s the best I could find.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ining-to-even-talk-job-offers/?outputType=amp

He’s been very underwhelming at VT. Lived in VIrginia for 18 years and a lot of friends are tech fans and they’ve wanted him gone for a while now.

Has very Dave Doering vibes.

 

[drvenner]

What the hell, I’ll shoot my shot as well. No one will remember this anyway lol

December 13th: Pruitt is fired.
December 20th: Justin Fuente is hired.

While we are taking SWAGs, I will put in mine.

December 20: Pruitt is fired

December 22: Urban Meyer is hired

 

[Kingston Vol]

He’s been very underwhelming at VT. Lived in VIrginia for 18 years and a lot of friends are tech fans and they’ve wanted him gone for a while now.

Has very Dave Doering vibes.

Yeah, I think that’s right. Very average. Very stable.

Phil wanted Doeren too.

 

[RiotVol]

I personally think getting rid of JG will have a lot bigger positive impact on UT going forward than any coaching changes. JMO

JP needs one year without horrible, inconsistent qb play. JG has been like fools gold for him IMO

And this is the circle, and I’ve been wondering if Pruitt hasn’t been mapping on his own sh&$ from being a former QB is high school and initially in college into JG and that’s why he’s treating him with kid gloves. That, plus the Rona curtailing Bailey’s reps and apparently JG being a practice star, is how we got to where we are.

I’m mad about it. I think any coach that loses to Georgia State, Vandy, and Kentucky in his tenure is red-flagged, but I just don’t see Fulmer cutting ties. Especially with early signing day, and since Fulmer is old school and sees the coaching convention as a crucial part of meeting people to fill out a coaching staff, and that I doubt that is happening, I just don’t see him pulling the trigger.

 

[Weezer]

My prediction is the same as it's always been. Pruitt doesn't get fired this year. Do I get e-cred if I'm right?

 

[rekinhavoc]

Lol! It’s a guess.

Yes but I want it to be true.

 

[rekinhavoc]

My prediction is the same as it's always been. Pruitt doesn't get fired this year. Do I get e-cred if I'm right?

Pruittite.

 

[Kingston Vol]

Trying to go back in time on the Twitter machine:

When Fulmer took over, it looks like the first two to report Fuente as Fulmer’s first candidate were John Brice and Tony Basilio.

Then it was quickly reported that Fuente had no interest in either the Tennessee or Florida State jobs.

Couple of notable things: he was coming off 10-4 and 9-4, so it’s not surprising he didn’t want to leave VT.

Since then, things have gone south and VT fans want him fired. He tried very hard to get the Baylor job last year before they hired Aranda.

 

[Johnny Majors' Ghost]

Marrone has a connection to Fulmer, right? That's the other reason he's been mentioned?

Yes. He was a part of the 2001 staff.

 

[Kingston Vol]

My prediction is the same as it's always been. Pruitt doesn't get fired this year. Do I get e-cred if I'm right?

I’d say that’s the leader in the clubhouse as most likely.

 

[Ron Swanson]

What the hell, I’ll shoot my shot as well. No one will remember this anyway lol

December 13th: Pruitt is fired.
December 20th: Justin Fuente is hired.

Fuente?? Tee and Ansley made your list now it’s failure at VT, Fuente? Why do you troll us like this?

 

[tnktm]

Rather keep Pruitt and see what happens than hire fuente or some other crappy coach. If a change is made I want it to be well thought out - not just change for changes sake.

 

[rekinhavoc]

Lower than I thought.

Might be the number of td's Trask throws.

 

[Kingston Vol]

Fuente?? Tee and Ansley made your list now it’s failure at VT, Fuente? Why do you troll us like this?

Questions like this legitimately make no sense to me.

“My” list is irrelevant, it’s not nor has it ever been about who I want - because I’d go to Ames, Iowa and start the bidding at $7M a year.

I’m just trying to find the middle of the Venn Diagram of realistic hires, coaches Fulmer has an affinity for, and people who would take the job.

In three successive coaching searches we’ve hired, at best, our 4th place candidate (Butch).

To act like we’re going to make this swift decision on Hugh Freeze is comical.

 

[Weezer]

Pruittite.

I didn't say I agreed he should be retained, I just don't believe the university will make a move. I'm betting on their history of dysfunction.

 

[Ron Swanson]

Questions like this legitimately make no sense to me.

“My” list is irrelevant, it’s not nor has it ever been about who I want - because I’d go to Ames, Iowa and start the bidding at $7M a year.

I’m just trying to find the middle of the Venn Diagram of realistic hires, coaches Fulmer has an affinity for, and people who would take the job.

In three successive coaching searches we’ve hired, at best, our 4th place candidate (Butch).

To act like we’re going to make this swift decision on Hugh Freeze is comical.

What’s even more comical is that after all these coaching hire failures in a row, UT would hire Tee, Ansley or recently fired for failing Fuente. I get you’re trying to be “realistic” but I think you’re setting the bar pretty low for a Pruitt replacement if he’s fired this year, even if we are low bar UT.

 

[rekinhavoc]

Questions like this legitimately make no sense to me.

“My” list is irrelevant, it’s not nor has it ever been about who I want - because I’d go to Ames, Iowa and start the bidding at $7M a year.

I’m just trying to find the middle of the Venn Diagram of realistic hires, coaches Fulmer has an affinity for, and people who would take the job.

In three successive coaching searches we’ve hired, at best, our 4th place candidate (Butch).

To act like we’re going to make this swift decision on Hugh Freeze is comical.

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[Blake25p]

Next years team will be a lot better than this years team regardless of coach (I believe it will be Pruitt). I’m talking 8-9 wins good.

 

[BruinVol]

Fuente has done fine at va tech. He hasn’t taken them to their ceiling and thus wouldn’t be the home run hire he would have been 3 years ago but it would be a solid hire. 7-9 win seasons would be the norm and that is what we need now




Since everyone is calling their shots on dates of coaching hires here’s mine


Dec 20 th 2020 Pruitt is retained

Dec 20th 2021 Pruitt is retained after going 7-5


November 20th 2022 Pruitt is fired


Dec 1st 2022 bill clarke is hired

 

[Volunteer21]

Questions like this legitimately make no sense to me.

“My” list is irrelevant, it’s not nor has it ever been about who I want - because I’d go to Ames, Iowa and start the bidding at $7M a year.

I’m just trying to find the middle of the Venn Diagram of realistic hires, coaches Fulmer has an affinity for, and people who would take the job.

In three successive coaching searches we’ve hired, at best, our 4th place candidate (Butch).

To act like we’re going to make this swift decision on Hugh Freeze is comical.

Do you think Campbell would be a good hire here? Just asking cuz he’s been around the Midwest region and never in the south. No question he can coach.

 

[Dudley Smith]

Then why have they been so average since Vince Young Colt McCoy?

The better question.

Like Kingston said, lots of similarities with Tennessee. Mack Brown and Fulmer had similar career trajectories - great talent accumulators, average game day coaches who would always get beat by a big rival, then got over the hump one year and won a NC. Mack had another couple of great teams in 2008-2009, similar to Tennessee in 2001, and then things got stale, complacent, and there were a lot of recruiting misses, other coaches in the league passed him by. Sound familiar?

Like Tennessee, Texas has found that replacing a generational coach isn't as easy at it may seem. They didn't have a Kiffin, but Charlie Strong had the exact same record as Dooley, and Herman is looking a lot like Butch's body of work. There were some early recruiting successes, a few big wins and respectable records, but this year is a lot like Butch in 2016 - a team with a senior QB and several developed recruiting classes playing in a very down year for the Big 12 (like the SEC East in 2016), and they aren't even going to get to the title game. By all indications, it looks like Herman is gone, possibly as soon as this week, but they may wait until after the last game.