Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

[jakez4ut]

Then what is it?

lol.

 

[JMSqb11]

The lack of speculation on a new OC is good news, IMO. There hasn’t yet been a commitment for a 2021 Pruitt administration, because otherwise you would be hearing some potential names by this point.

Or the fact that Pruitt moving on from Chaney and bringing in a new OC would definitely be a doomsday scenario for him if he winds up getting a 4th year.

Last thing he can do is hire new OC.

 

[Weezer]

I don’t know what you do for a living but taking random timeframes to compare anything can prove anyone’s point. Let’s look at the last five years or last ten years of this subject to this subject. But when accurately depicting a subject you have to look at a whole body of work and use all data. It’s not hard to understand. Why do you think people like Urban say this is a top ten program? Because it is. Just because you make bad hires and have terrible head coaches does not mean you are not a top program. If you put a ten year old in the drivers seat of a Ferrari, it doesn’t matter what all the car has, it won’t win the race. That is Tennessee.

You both have points. Where he misses is using the last 20 years when it comes to attractiveness to coaches. Coaches see the bigger picture. Now, if he were to use the last 20 years to talk about recruits, then Auburn is more attractive. Let's face it, recruits today have only ever seen our dysfunction. They haven't seen us when we're actually good. It's like comparing kinetic energy to potential energy. Auburn may have more kinetic energy at this time, but UT has the greater potential. Coaches see potential.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Good Morning.
He's coming back

 

[Dudleys87]

Surprised they haven’t issued a formal AD statement welcoming Jeremy back for 2021

That’s literally all that is left to do.

Everyone who was “sure” he was gone has backed off a bit it seems.

 

[HankHill]

lol.

Do you not have an answer?

 

[Dudleys87]

Good Morning.
He's coming back

yay, I’m glad you and a lot of others here are excited about that.

Maybe next year Tennessee will get 2 wins.

 

[TrippieRedd]

Do transfers count towards the 85? They were talking about Pope leaving on sports talk and him not counting towards the 85, so why do we need to save 5 spots if they don’t count?

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

Do transfers count towards the 85? They were talking about Pope leaving and him not counting towards the 85, so why do we need to save 5 spots if they don’t count?

They count towards the 85 and the 25 initial counters.

 

[Jimmy Football]

Or he’s literally the only guy who wants to work for Pruitt. He’s owed a big amount of money too and if we’re willingly giving it away why bother?

Certainly possible. Just my take on it: it doesn’t sound like anything is moving forward right now either for or against Pruitt.

I would have been way more concerned about Pruitt staying if Hubbs had said: “they’re currently vetting candidates for the OC position.”

 

[Weezer]

Magic was before my time, I don’t really remember Jordan before his baseball phase. Kobe was the guy I got to see the most growing up. Loved watching those lakers team with Kobe, Shaq, Fisher, Horry.

Magic could and did play any position on the floor. Whatever was asked of him, he did it. When he and Kareem Abdul Jabbar and James Worthy played together....

 

[TrippieRedd]

They count towards the 85 and the 25 initial counters.

Ah, thanks

 

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

Or the fact that Pruitt moving on from Chaney and bringing in a new OC would definitely be a doomsday scenario for him if he winds up getting a 4th year.

Last thing he can do is hire new OC.

This was one of the worst offenses in football this year and one of the worst in our history. It’s doomsday keeping an OC who can’t score 20 points.

 

[jakez4ut]

Do you not have an answer?

no. but filling the void with "they're telling fans FU" isn't either. absent info to the contrary doesn't mean the alternative is true.

imo, i think if pruitt is retained, it likely means they didn't get the feedback they wanted on the guy(s) they wanted. and rather fire him and go thru all that publicly, they're gonna stick and stay and let some other things play out.

or they haven't decided yet, still working options and it may be next week before anything definiitive happens.

that's the other thing, we're still talking "ifs". some of y'all are mad nothing has happened.....yet. doesn't mean nothing is happening. lol.

but they're telling fans FU. i mean, that's like newbie ff level stuff there.

 

[BruinVol]

They count towards the 85 and the 25 initial counters.

If they leave that doesn’t open up the 25

Don’t think you were saying that but just making sure someone didn’t read it that way

Incoming counts toward the 25

 

[Weezer]

If he doesn't get fired today, I'm seriously doubting he gets fired at all.

 

[MrVolton]

The slight recruiting advantage in recruiting is their proximity to Atlanta and the panhandle. That advantage is real

Auburn is like 1 hour closer to Atlanta than Knoxville. I’ll give you closer proximity to the panhandle, but they’ve still got to share that with Florida, FSU, Bama, UGA, etc. But it’s not like they are UGA, Florida, Texas, or Southern Cal in terms of geographic advantages. It’s not like it’s some huge edge for them.

Recent success is really the only edge they have over us, and this has mostly been the result of all the powers that be at Auburn taking the win at all cost approach. Most other factors are a push.

 

[Ron Swanson]

It’s like a teen chat room in here. Some of y’all need to calm the f down .

 

[Grey_pilgrim]

Magic could and did play any position on the floor. Whatever was asked of him, he did it. When he and Kareem Abdul Jabbar and James Worthy played together....

Talking about older players has reminded how much I enjoy Inside the NBA. Barkley, Shaq and co are hilarious.

 

[BruinVol]

Auburn is like 1 hour closer to Atlanta than Knoxville. I’ll give you closer proximity to the panhandle, but they’ve still got to share that with Florida, FSU, Bama, UGA, etc. But it’s not like they are UGA, Florida, Texas, or Southern Cal in terms of geographic advantages. It’s not like it’s some huge edge for them.

Recent success is really the only edge they have over us, and this has mostly been the result of all the powers that be at Auburn taking the win at all cost approach. Most other factors are a push.

I’d like to see a comparison of recruiting classes over the last 20 years.
I suspect auburn wins that battle which supports my stance but again I think it would be close

 

[Grey_pilgrim]

It’s like a teen chat room in here. Some of y’all need to calm the f down .

The past decade plus has everyone on edge Ron.

 

[wisvol22]

In retrospect, I’m not sure any DC could have saved that 2012 team. There was just not much talent there, and the guys who were good were young.

I tend to disagree - I agree on the lack of talent front, but there was a massive drop-off on the defense between 2011 and 2012.

2011: 36th in PPG (22.6 ppg) and in 28th in Yards (340 ypg)
2012: 107th in PPG (35.7 ppg) and 110th in Yards (471 ypg)

As far as I can tell, the only starters we lost were Malik Jackson and Austin Johnson between those two years. Malik Jackson was solid, but only had 2.5 sacks in 2011 (actually led the team with that!).

So in summary, the only key difference between those two defenses were swapping Justin Wilcox for Sal Sunseri.

 

[Jimmy Football]

If he doesn't get fired today, I'm seriously doubting he gets fired at all.

Whatever they have decided or will decide, we won’t know until after the internal investigation concludes. Why?
- If they’re firing him, they want to know what leverage they have re: buyout.
- If they’re keeping him, they don’t want to be blindsided by something down the road.

 

[HankHill]

no. but filling the void with "they're telling fans FU" isn't either. absent info to the contrary doesn't mean the alternative is true.

imo, i think if pruitt is retained, it likely means they didn't get the feedback they wanted on the guy(s) they wanted. and rather fire him and go thru all that publicly, they're gonna stick and stay and let some other things play out.

or they haven't decided yet, still working options and it may be next week before anything definiitive happens.

that's the other thing, we're still talking "ifs". some of y'all are mad nothing has happened.....yet. doesn't mean nothing is happening. lol.

but they're telling fans FU. i mean, that's like newbie ff level stuff there.

This whole conversation is operating on the assumption of if Pruitt and Chaney is back for the 2021season. So the whole yet point is irrelevant to this conversation. I think you are putting too much emphasis on the literal “FU” to the fans part. It’s more of “we know the fans are gonna show up no matter what next year so why go through the work of firing these coach and finding other ones this year.”


But i will play along... they stick and stay with Pruitt/Chaney.... what other things could be playing out?

 

[Kingston Vol]

Sounds like Will Friend will be announced at South Carolina soon.

If we make a quick replacement hire, we obviously know Pruitt's fate.