Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

[Catbone]

I'm starting to think it could be Bill O'Brien.

Yes. It's very likely Steele or O'brien.

 

[butchna]

Has my dementia caught up with me. Who is Caldwell?

Former Wake Forest, Colts and Lions HC.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Lebby's name keeps getting mentioned by the VQ guys as possible OC. Hubbs said it yesterday and AP mentioned him this morning.

Thinking Chadwell as HC, Lebby as OC, Steele as DC, Garner as OL. Solid start.

Love yall. But im gone if its Chadwell.

 

[Nuctech777]

Are we setting ourselves up for year zero again?

 

[Unconditional Surrender]

thank god. Neither are good fits at Tennessee If you like points

Much prefer a QB guru. Lane is the obvious, IMO.

 

[jpope9]

Lebby coming from Ole Miss with his Head Coach. Got it.

 

[VolGee4]

Hot take

Currie was good and would have been good here if allowed to do his job

with him already landing on his feet it’s clear others agree

and Blackburn hasn’t landed on his feet

Anyone who uses Gruden as a smokescreen to line up Greg Schiano has something wrong between the ears. Thanks for Vitello but now WF can deal with him.

 

[90 Vol]

Pro Gilbert: Haslems and Barnes.

Gilbert would be a disappointing hire, IMO.

 

[BruinVol]

If Boyd says proven winner, does Kiffin really fall into that category? I think he would win big but technically he hasn’t proven it from a wins standpoint outside at FAU.

Makes me think BoB, Caldwell, Herman are part of the group. Steele/Garner being on staff would make sense for those 3 guys to help with recruiting the region.

No he isn’t a proven winner.

I wouldn’t call Chadwell one either

 

[BigSteve09]

Was Brooks one of the guys that Fulmer called to reassure that Pruitt would still be here? I feel like that was the story going around - Fulmer and Pruitt calling guys ahead of ESD to keep the class intact and get as many guys on campus as possible.

 

[butchna]

Lebby's name keeps getting mentioned by the VQ guys as possible OC. Hubbs said it yesterday and AP mentioned him this morning.

Thinking Chadwell as HC, Lebby as OC, Steele as DC, Garner as OL. Solid start.

I think Garner would suck as an OL coach.

 

[OrangeDrip]

Lebby's name keeps getting mentioned by the VQ guys as possible OC. Hubbs said it yesterday and AP mentioned him this morning.

Thinking Chadwell as HC, Lebby as OC, Steele as DC, Garner as OL. Solid start.

I just can’t see it. Only way I think Lebby comes here is if Kiffin does. Can’t see him taking the same position at UT unless we pay him good.

 

[Unconditional Surrender]

Former Wake Forest, Colts and Lions HC.

would be a disaster. And I don't think Manning thought that highly of him.

 

[VOL6479]

All that Stuff Pruitt did at Gerogia and Fulmer still hired him

 

[BruinVol]

Anyone who uses Gruden as a smokescreen to line up Greg Schiano has something wrong between the ears. Thanks for Vitello but now WF can deal with him.

Shiano was the second choice after Mullen

 

[yourstruly23]

That article is as big a joke as the person who wrote it. Yes blame the fans for the disfunction of the administration that makes perfect sense. Wolken has a chip on his shoulder for UT fans because they are the ones that finally exposed him for the unprofessional hack that he is with his collusion with Curry which is still unprecedented and flies in the face of everything that journalistic ethics stands for.

He can wave his victory flag all day long because the Pruitt experiment failed but I would take where we are today 10 times over than have Schiano as our coach. I'm a Vol fan for life regardless of the record it's just that deep; however, I was ready to put my fandom in the grave if we hired someone tied to Sandusky.

My man you're the deaf ears I was referring to... Like Wolken said, our leadership folded to the mob last go around.. in that case I agree that the mob was right, but that wasn't his point.. our leadership folded showing how weak it was and proceeded to put a man in charge who had no business getting the AD spot.. this is an entirely new Admin this time around so, like Wolken said, we get a chance at a clean slate..

 

[BigOrangeFanatic]

I know I will ultimately be disappointed but I will keep posting this until we hire someone different.

 

[Weezer]

Gilbert went from being a relative unknown that Barnes likes to an absolute comic book villain in the span of a day.

It's crazy how that happens here. To say some of y'all don't take much convincing would be a giant understatement.

The Joker's henchmen are villains, too. To be fair, most of us were not immediately aware Gilbert served as henchman to Hart.

 

[SLICKYINC]

Love yall. But im gone if its Chadwell.

 

[Dudleys87]

Thats a good hire for them (along with Marrone), and puts us in a bad spot with Simpson. Good thing Simpson grew up a UT fan or this would be a done deal.

Can’t stress enough how those two getting jobs that aren’t Tennessee is for the fans.

 

[daj2576]

Here's the non-pictographic version:
Dan Wolken Article

Several years ago I had the opportunity to be in an intersecting, but fleeting, professional orbit with people who were on the west coast in the sports representation industry.

Over some casual friendly conversations I was shocked to hear how UTs reputation was marred by the perception of our fans. The summary was that these guys, who work in the industry repping players and/or coaches, on the west coast (so not in any way beefing with UT as a rival), was that UTs fans have "unreasonably high expectations and unreasonably low IQs". Correct or not, warranted or not, that was the reputation that UT had among some people in the industry. These people called our fans "singular" in both the passion and vitriol, when my rebuttal was "yeah but all teams have fans with similar expectations". And, these people were otherwise very complimentary of the UT story, legacy and brand. I heard more than once, "football is better off when UT is good".

Don't misread me, I'm NOT "blaming the fans". I think the UTAD has taken the fans for granted for far too long and has been decidedly inept if not malfeasant. The point to take away though is that, at least in some circles that matter, the perception of the fans matters. And, when the perception of the fans, right or wrong, is negative, it becomes a confirmation bias loop. You think you're going to see negative, so all you see is negative.

To these guys there was no doubt that this perception made things even harder on a struggling program. You can argue the scale of the impact, but it was very hard to argue the impact wasnt negative.

This is just a story of my experience and observations when I had a very brief look behind the curtain. It's not a call to action or even a criticism, necessarily. It's just an observation.

 

[Catbone]

Or just bringing Lane here too with Lebby

Yep. But we aren't that serious about the wins.

 

[Jimmy Football]

Are we setting ourselves up for year zero again?

Year negative one.

 

[m1al]

UT planned on hiring an experienced HC last time, too. It was just publicly bungled over and over while the options dwindled. You make a mockery of a search long enough and people don't want to be part of it.

Small element of people freak that they weren't hearing info on Pruitt fast enough. Now they freak out about not hearing info fast enough regarding next AD, then onto freaking out about the coaching hire, then onto the next and the next and the next....... At some point you'd think these folks would be able to calm their minds, enjoy the day, wait and see what happens....

 

[Nashvegas31]

My only problem with BOB is that his players didn't really seem to like him, and he acts like an absolute prick sometimes. But not in a funny or cocky way like Lane Kiffin.

Culture fit is overblown sometimes I think, but I could see that being an issue here.

He was pathetically awful as a GM, but that obviously shouldn't matter here.

As a coach though, he really is off the charts better than our last three hires. There really is no comparison at all.

His penn st players loved him. Majority of his Texans players liked him until he traded Hopkins and it was downhill. They liked him as the Hc but not the GM. That is why I don’t think it is good for HCs to be the GM in NFL. You can’t play good cop/bad cop. Once he lost that ability then some players viewed him differently. Judging by his record he is clearly a winning HC but a piss poor GM when it comes to managing a Salary cap. All things he doesn’t have to do in college.