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He was going to hire him at Barn but does anyone really trust Lebby as OC? That's like everyone getting excited over hiring a DC from Bama. Guess what, it's not Lebby's offense

Lane trusts him. Got him a raise from $700k to $1.2M this offseason. Believe Lebby is the play caller.
 
You're right, I just don't think he would be worth the type of money people have been throwing out. He would come with inherent risks is my point.

He would, it would also send a VERY clear message that TN is serious about sitting at the big kids table again. That would be a risk worth taking in our case. Now, I would have a few others in front of him personally and if they are interested go in that direction first but Stoops would be a clear Grand Slam type hire with some risk.
 
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Coyle and Fleck combo????

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People will hate Fleck because of his similarities to Butchs corny slogans. I even hesitate for the similarities but when I take a step back and think about it. I really wanted Butch to be successful because I felt from a Marketing, promoting and recruiting aspect he was what you wanted but he wasn’t as good X and Os wise as he believed. Fleck is Butch with the X and Os. I normally would say he is a Midwest guy but he has actually been successful in targeting GA kids and bringing them up north.
 
No. But money, control, and time does. If you give a coach a guaranteed five years, control, and $7-8 million per year. That will give you a lot of good coaches. We need to figure out who is our guy and don’t let them say no. You live with them until they strike a deal. I’m sleeping at Matt Campbell’s house or Chris Petersen’s house until they sign the contract.
Agreed. Fan base needs to be on board with this also. Can’t be screaming our heads off if we aren’t instantly turned around. We’re a mess right now.
 
Interesting quotes from Chadwell (possibly already posted):

“The reason why we like to run the offense that we do, you don’t have to have the best linemen in the country to win games,” Chadwell said. “You don’t have to have the best receivers in the country to win games. Every job that I have had has been a rebuild. We’ve had to develop and recruit talent that fits your system.

“Part of the reason that we like to do the offense, is it gives you a chance to win games. We were probably the eighth most talented team out of ten in our league — and won the league this year. Part of that is because you get kids to buy into your scheme and your system, and they fit that. We can do a variety of different things. Recruiting is not hard for it, you just have to find the right guys that want to fit into what you do.”

Now, do we accept that UT is unlikely to have top-flight talent and try something different? Or do we keep rolling the dice on second-tier staffs and hope that they can miraculously out-talent UGA, UF, and Bama on a yearly basis?

Of course, the flipside is wondering whether Chadwell's offense is better suited to a Vandy than a UT. Are we settling for and accepting 8-4 with him? Or can outside the box thinking at a school with a lot of resources, money, and history actually work?
 
He would, it would also send a VERY clear message that TN is serious about sitting at the big kids table again. That would be a risk worth taking in our case. Now, I would have a few others in front of him personally and if they are interested go in that direction first but Stoops would be a clear Grand Slam type hire with some risk.

Fair enough. It's just hard for me to trust someone with this who doesn't seem to have anything left to prove. But maybe he does, I haven't really kept up with him since he left.
 
Hubbs statement about Lane was made in response to a poster question and if you listen was in the vein of “never say never”, not that he heard anything about interest in Lane. You guys are making too much out of it.

The Steele comments were similar he doesn’t think that is where it goes but that it can get there if people you throw money ain’t get scared deeper in conversations and stop returning calls similar to kids in transfer portal. They jump in get calls then they stop as teams dig further.
 
If @Stoerner Fumbles was right and they are initially looking to throw $8M/yr at someone it ain’t gonna be Chadwell. He’s not going from < $0.5M to that kinda money.

Just reading the tea leaves here but, I don't think the numbers that are being rumored are the same across the board. It's meant to attract bigger names, not necessarily that someone like Chadwell would be compensated that amount.

I stand by my "swing for the fences" statement. It's not a prophecy or prediction, just our Modus Operandi in finding our next head coach.
 
Since it obvious we’re not getting Freeze for at least a couple years, throw it all at Stoops. He can get us back to competing in the East and probably put together a really good roster. Then when it’s time to retire, we hand the keys to Freeze.
 
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Lane wants the job. I get that maybe some don’t think it’s a better situation but he desperately wants the Vols job. We can argue about better situation all day if we like. If he wants the job those arguments don’t matter. Which he absolutely wants it.
Why do you say this? Is that just your feeling or have you heard/read something about it. He wanted it last time but I haven’t heard anything now that he’s at OM beyond the reaching out to boosters comment but he also allegedly reached out to Auburn as well.
 
Interesting quotes from Chadwell (possibly already posted):



Now, do we accept that UT is unlikely to have top-flight talent and try something different? Or do we keep rolling the dice on second-tier staffs and hope that they can miraculously out-talent UGA, UF, and Bama on a yearly basis?

Of course, the flipside is wondering whether Chadwell's offense is better suited to a Vandy than a UT. Are we settling for and accepting 8-4 with him? Or can outside the box thinking at a school with a lot of resources, money, and history actually work?
Lane Kiffin throwing his clipboard 10 miles up in the air and wearing a "Merry Flipmas" shirt is what we need. And I think he brings a similar perspective on offensive strategy. Win with what you have.

My goodness, what could be.
 
I think hubbs would consider lane more realistic if it fit things Boyd/plowman have said are major factors. Can you really see us talking about integrity/compliance then roll out someone that almost got us in that mess his first time around? I get he has learned a lot but it’s a risk when you need a clean one for NCAA to forgive you
 
Why do you say this? Is that just your feeling or have you heard/read something about it. He wanted it last time but I haven’t heard anything now that he’s at OM beyond the reaching out to boosters comment but he also allegedly reached out to Auburn as well.
Basillio reported that Lane expressed interest to boosters.
 
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