Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

[SLICKYINC]

 

[Aesius]

DW and JH must have done a hell of a job selling the team on this new staff.

 

[TN-POSSUM]

How does randy Boyd and Plowman sit there with a straight face and except this.

Plowman to @KeyVol14 ...

 

[johnfnkelly]

One of TB's radio guys just said there is a good chance we get a QB from UCF in the portal.

Gabriel?

 

[aRmo]

We have more talent at WR than UCF has ever seen atm. This offense is gonna be fun to watch. With the right hires we could surprise some people

 

[VolunteerVandiver]

From UCF fan:

Have fun watching the following:

1st down: inside run/screen pass

2nd down: off-tackle run/slant

3rd down: long bomb and pray

But in fast

I am not concerned about the offense scoring points... much more concerned with the defense at this point.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Took from a volquester who posted this article from the Orlando Sentinel. I don't think we realize how good this offense is about to be. I know it's long, but read it guys. It's worth it.

“He does not have a playbook, maybe a pamphlet or just a page is what I can glean from what I am seeing,” wrote one fan.


“Truly feels like we have just eight plays,” wrote another fan.
“The coach needs to go,” wrote another.


And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why I never, ever listen to fans, which is short for fanatics, which is a synonym for wackos.

UCF 51, Tulane 34.
The Knights compiled 689 yards of total offense on Saturday, quarterback Dillon Gabriel threw for 422 yards and five touchdowns, running back Greg McCrae ran 25 times for 162 yards and wide receiver Marlon Williams caught nine passes for 174 yards and three touchdowns.


Hey, disgruntled fans, ask Tulane’s defense about Josh Heupel’s playbook.

Ask any opposing defensive coordinator in college football about Josh Heupel’s playbook.

Yes, UCF’s season thus far has been a major disappointment because of a young, porous defense but at least Knights fans can turn on the TV every Saturday and be entertained by one of the most astute offensive minds in the game, one of the best quarterbacks in the country and inarguably the most explosive, entertaining offense in the nation.
Maybe even in history.
If you’re scoring at home, Gabriel leads the nation in passing, Williams leads the nation in receiving and UCF’s offense is now averaging a national-best 646.8 yards per game. If the Knights keep up this pace, they will shatter the all-time record for total offense in a season set by the 1989 Houston Cougars, who averaged 624.9 yards per game.

In three years at UCF, Heupel has a 26-6 record at UCF and his offense has been ranked No. 5, No. 2 and now No. 1 in the country. And before he took the UCF job, Heupel was the offensive coordinator at Missouri under former head coach Barry Odom.
When Heupel arrived at Mizzou in 2016, he took over an offense ranked 124th in the country the previous season. In the first year of Heupel’s fast-break, no-huddle offense, the Tigers were ranked 13th in the nation and improved to eighth the following year in the big, bad SEC. When Heupel left, the Missouri offense went back to its formerly pathetic self.
Anybody who questions Heupel’s offensive imagination and acumen is just plain idiotic. The man is an offensive genius. Or as the great Steve Spurrier once playfully reprimanded a sports writer back in his heyday, “Don’t call me a genius; call me a mastermind.”
The Knights came into Saturday not only leading the nation in total offense, but no other team in college football was within 40 yards of their average. For comparison’s sake, Alabama has the most explosive offenses of the Nick Saban era, and UCF is averaging about 80 yards per game more than the Crimson Tide.

“We’ve got a lot of great players and that makes it a whole lot easier to call offensive plays,” Heupel said. “This offensive skill group is athletic and understands what they’re doing. We’ve got great trust in every single one of them. We’ve also got five guys up front [on the offensive line] who fight and compete. … And being in Year 2, you’ve seen the growth that Dillon has had as a quarterback.”
In fact, Gabriel has been nothing short of brilliant with his fourth 400-yard passing performance Saturday in five games this season. His touch on the long ball and his improvisational skills are uncanny, evidenced by a perfectly placed scramble-drill 54-yard TD bomb to Williams in the first quarter.


Remember last year when LSU’s Joe Burrow had arguably the greatest season for a quarterback in the history of college football with 6,040 yards of total offense? That’s an average of 403 yards of total offense per game. Thus far this season, Gabriel is averaging 461 yards of total offense, nearly 60 yard per game more than Burrow averaged last season.

 

[Unconditional Surrender]

We're hiring Chad Morris 2.0?

Yes.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

I want our guys to be our Qb. They are plenty good and deserve it

Stop with that

 

[Aesius]

Butch wasn't a specialist?

He coached every single position on the offensive side of the ball except OL. He interned at the NFL, won 4 conference championships, was WR coach during Rich Rodriguez's high-flying WV days. Plus like I alluded to, he had way more experience as a HC over Heupel. Heupel's been a HC for three years in one of the most talent-rich states in America and has obviously regressed as a program.

If Butch was regarded as anything other than a failed coach he would have been a coordinator somewhere after getting fired here, not an intern at Bama. Being a RB coach and a WR coach does not = specialist.

 

[tomq_123]

I'm choosing to be happy today.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

I would be surprised if it is Gabriel or any starters - he apparently didn't have a team meeting telling them he was leaving. They're pissed.

No idea, wouldn't give a name, but said it came from his guy Steve

 

[volbeast33]

Both of which suck/ed in the NFL. Bradford was a heisman.

Edit: I’m saying Heupel knows how to get the most out of a QB.

Which means he made them look better than their actual talent

 

[MarcoVol]

Offense should be fun to watch

 

[cHiZzLeVOL]

Get behind this program...everyone. Stop bickering. Stop second guessing.
We have a bad ass AD...I mean one of the most impressive guys I have EVER been around. He is getting this right I promise you that.

And another thing...this stuff about whales and authority to offer this and that to two whales is BS. DW has been given a damn centurion card to hire whoever he wishes at whatever cost he sees fit....i have said it 100 times but some folks just can’t understand. Money is not and will not be an issue moving forward with this program.

Has this aged well? Can’t imagine our money givers are happy about this.

 

[05_never_again]

Well, he's 28-8 and recruited at roughly the same level as O'Leary and Frost.

Gonna defend Heupel here - anybody know why he's been tagged as an unimpressive recruiter? As HC at UCF, he basically maintained Frost's recruiting, and nobody says that Frost is/was a bad recruiter.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Man Jaylen Wright is going to be fun in this offense too. Can't wait to see Holiday also. Man, so many weapons

 

[VolFreakJosh]

People seem to be calming down now, but we'll have another meltdown when UCF hires Freeze or some other candidate that is more exciting that Heupel. UCF people aren't sad to see Heupel go.

Freeze should have gotten a serious look.

He’s a way better coach than Heupel.

 

[Orange Studs]

Huge.

I hope he mentions that at the news conference. Would build some confidence on the D side for everyone.

 

[jakez4ut]

Its a wait and see for me. He literally couldn't pull a top 60 class 1 year removed from a "national championship". He hasn't signed a 4 or 5 star at UCF with 3 double digit win seasons in the last 4 years. Thats terrible!!!

@MarcoVol you got that post from how UCF has done relative to its peers/conf?

that's kinda what matters, UCF isn't winning head to head recruiting battles on the regular against the usual suspects we're used to.

but relative to their competition level, they compete favorable both on the field and in recruiting...with their peer group. which is all you can really expect. not really worth looking at the national rankings in recruiting for a G5 program, imo.

 

[Aesius]

From UCF fan:

Have fun watching the following:

1st down: inside run/screen pass

2nd down: off-tackle run/slant

3rd down: long bomb and pray

But in fast

That's the kind of crap clueless fans talk about. There are plenty of Titans fans who think Arthur Smith wasn't that good and that our offense could have been SO MUCH BETTER. People are delusional and never happy and susceptible to all kinds of wishful, magical thinking.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

JH has developed two NFL QBs I believe with Sam Bradford and Drew Lock

Sam Brandford
Landry Jones
Jordan Love
Drew Lock

All guys Heupel got into the NFL, and that kid at UCF in his first 2 seasons was starting to develop as well (maybe not a NFL guy, but who knows with 2 more years).

 

[volbeast33]

From UCF fan:

Have fun watching the following:

1st down: inside run/screen pass

2nd down: off-tackle run/slant

3rd down: long bomb and pray

But in fast

They averaged over 40 points a game and number 2 in the nation in offense.... tell them to watch our old highlights from last year.

 

[Frankwillie87]

Lazy comaprision..... Jones ran behind BK's coattails and ran when things got tough.
Heupel has been at 2 P5 programs which Jones never was, He has coordinated top 5 offenses... Go dig into some stats... His team fell off between year 1 and 2 because his QB had a gruesome injury and we know what happens with unprepared QB's... This year they had a ton of opt outs.. Oh and he has beaten by out scoring the golden boy Kiffin

Jones was at Tampa Bay, Rutgers, and West Virginia during his career. Heupel's been at Oklahoma and Missouri. Heupel has been riding the coattails of Scott Frost, and not very well apparently. I don't care how you spin it, Jones had a better resume AND as a HC than Heupel prior to Heupel getting hired.

 

[Jimmy Football]

From UCF fan:

Have fun watching the following:

1st down: inside run/screen pass

2nd down: off-tackle run/slant

3rd down: long bomb and pray

But in fast

They sure score a lot of points doing that, then.