Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

[SpringBokVol]

Salter is going to transfer imo

I think so as well. With one more potential transfer as well IMO

 

[Kingston Vol]

I think so as well. With one more potential transfer as well IMO

I think it's very possible that Salter and Bailey are both gone.

 

[Kingston Vol]

SEC StatCat tracks air yards.

Shrout was tops in the whole league in average depth of target and AIR% (percentage of yards through the air...before the ball is caught). JG was 6th and HB was 11th in the SEC. Some of that is scheme or playing to strengths (Strout's deep shots). Not necessarily good/bad. Tua was notorious for hardly throwing for his yards. He'd throw 7 yard rpo slants that would go for 70 yard TDs.

HB also couldn't connect on deep shots last year, but sure looked more comfortable doing so Saturday. But I think you're right too, he seemed to check down more last year and made it further through progressions.

Right, I remember how infuriating it was watching JG, Shrout and Maurer not be able to process the offense and find the 3rd and 4th options. Bailey seemed to get it right away.

It was very clear last year that Bailey was the best QB on the roster - and it wasn't particularly close. But he does have warts - he has a long throwing motion, average arm strength and he seemed afraid to sling the ball into tight windows. None of those things make him a lost cause - it just seems, to me anyway, like those things make him a bad fit for Heupel's offense that prioritizes zipping the ball around and quick throws.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Milton is the most physically gifted QB on the roster. He has the strongest arm, maybe in college football. And He is a bruiser as a runner. We shouldn't take what happened last year as any indication of the type of player that he is. Covid year, his first year as a starter, no spring, no fall camp, and only played a few games. His first game he set the world on fire and showed tons of potential. That faded away, but so did that offense as a whole which, for whatever reason, that Harbaugh offense has been garbage.

In the same way, I don't hold HB's struggles against him last year either. While HB looked phenomenal in the spring game, he had no pressure in his face. It has been pointed out that HB has struggled in scrimmages when they were blitzing him and he had pressure. He had none of that on Saturday. So while he looked like a million bucks, especially better than Maurer and Hooker because he is, grain of salt on how good he is right now with having faced no pressure.

It will be a battle. But I have a hard time seeing Heupel not salivating over Milton's physical tools and molding him into an elite QB. He has 3 years to do it. Maybe Milton doesn't have it between the ears, but we don't know that yet. Maybe HB becomes more motivated and proves the naysayers wrong? It's going to be fun to watch.

 

[bignewt]

I think it's very likely that Salter and Bailey are both gone.

Bailey? Cmon now.

 

[MarcoVol]

I think it's very likely that Salter and Bailey are both gone.

Based on what

 

[KPT_VFL]

We are going to eff around and let HB just transfer when all he’s done is make the most out of his few opportunities he was given. Sigh, another staff giving up on him. He’s going to be a good QB UT just doesn’t seem to want to give him a shot.

 

[ChattaTNVol]

I'm not sure what to feel about Milton. He really has not looked great at UM. He's intriguing, but I don't think he's going to come in and take the job.

From what I've seen JM has an incredibly powerful arm. Like I haven't seen that kind of arm strength in a long time. There are other issues that Michigan fans complained about but everybody raves about his arm strength.

Rivals has started a new thing where they evaluate "players of note" who use the transfer portal. Rivals considers JM a "player of note" so here's their thoughts on JM to Tennessee. (Mike Farrell is writing this piece for rivals).

Farrell’s Take: Milton always had a huge arm but his accuracy was an issue out of high school and led to a few rankings drops. He’s tempting for the Vols as a pocket passer who can sling it but his inconsistency from high school to now is maddening. I'm a bit surprised he found a Power Five home honestly and Tennessee is taking a chance on his upside but they had better make sure they don't lose another QB because of it.

Impact rating: 4.7 out of 10

IMPACT METER
The Transfer Portal continues to change the way college football programs recruit and mange their rosters so we here at Rivals.com continue to evolve our coverage. Each time a player of note enters the portal, we will examine their potential impact on the college football landscape and assign an impact rating, both when they enter the portal and when they choose a destination. The scale is from 1-10 and the description below explains the scoring scale.

1.1-4.0 — Not a big impact expected, likely a non-starter and down the bench depth player.
4.1- 6.0 — A solid impact can be expected in the right scenario and has the potential to battle for a starting job.
6.1-9.0. — A high impact player who won’t change a program but will certainly be a very good contributor and starter.
9.1- 9.9 — A very high impact player who should start the moment he steps on the field and will change the outlook of a program immediately.
10 — A franchise transfer who has a chance to be an All American and one of the elite players in college football.

I'm probably more optimistic than Farrell, owing to Heupel knowing something about QBs. JM could be here not to help us but rather to get help from us, Heupel in particular, so one day, after his 3 years of eligibility are up, maybe he's developed enough to make a Sunday roster. If Heupel can help him improve a lot in the areas everyone complains about he could be a really good QB. jmo.

Rivals.com - Transfer Tracker: Tennessee adds QB Joe Milton

 

[UTMVol76]

I'm not sure what to feel about Milton. He really has not looked great at UM. He's intriguing, but I don't think he's going to come in and take the job.

Name me QBs at Michigan who looked better there at the end of their tenure there under Harbaugh?

 

[Kingston Vol]

Based on what

A couple of things, and you can take me at my word or dismiss me as making it all up, which would be weird.

Bailey and his family were very upset that Pruitt was fired. As his dad said when the rumors were running rampant, "we signed with Tennessee because of Jeremy Pruitt." They were assured by Fulmer that Pruitt was going to be fine multiple times - we know how that story ended. They were going to enter the portal at that time, but figured he should stay in school and complete the Spring semester before making a decision. I think that was smart, and what guys like Crouch and Henry should have done.

As @Bassmaster_Vol posted above, Bailey has not been totally consistent this spring. There were times he was running with the 3rd string behind Hooker and Maurer. He showed out in the Spring game, absolutely, but I don't think it was totally representative of how he performed throughout Spring ball or where he stands in the pecking order. The VQ guys have been adamant that if the season started today, Hooker would be the starter. You can tell me they're wrong on this, but I don't think they are.

There's a reason why Heupel was so desperate to bring Milton in - someone far from a polished product or a sure thing. Simply put, he doesn't like what he has at the position. And I believe he is preparing for one or two of them to leave on their own.

 

[bignewt]

We are going to eff around and let HB just transfer when all he’s done is make the most out of his few opportunities he was given. Sigh, another staff giving up on him. He’s going to be a good QB UT just doesn’t seem to want to give him a shot.

wait till fall before making declarations.

 

[UTMVol76]

We are going to eff around and let HB just transfer when all he’s done is make the most out of his few opportunities he was given. Sigh, another staff giving up on him. He’s going to be a good QB UT just doesn’t seem to want to give him a shot.

Are you basing this statement off massage board fodder?

 

[butchna]

A la Dayne Davis. But with what he showed in the Orange and White if he can consistently manage to get separation and make adjustments and catch like he did, I don’t see how he doesn’t get time.

On Dayne Davis? Already tiptoed here saying he locks down the LT spot for at least 3 seasons. Doubling down on the jinx and cursing his career, I’m going full D4H here and comparing him to Chad Clifton. ***Pauses for internet violence and incredulous response ***

 

[UTMVol76]

A couple of things, and you can take me at my word or dismiss me as making it all up, which would be weird.

Bailey and his family were very upset that Pruitt was fired. As his dad said when the rumors were running rampant, "we signed with Tennessee because of Jeremy Pruitt." They were assured by Fulmer that Pruitt was going to be fine multiple times - we know how that story ended. They were going to enter the portal at that time, but figured he should stay in school and complete the Spring semester before making a decision. I think that was smart, and what guys like Crouch and Henry should have done.

As @Bassmaster_Vol posted above, Bailey has not been totally consistent this spring. There were times he was running with the 3rd string behind Hooker and Maurer. He showed out in the Spring game, absolutely, but I don't think it was totally representative of how he performed throughout Spring ball or where he stands in the pecking order. The VQ guys have been adamant that if the season started today, Hooker would be the starter. You can tell me they're wrong on this, but I don't think they are.

There's a reason why Heupel was so desperate to bring Milton in - someone far from a polished product or a sure thing. Simply put, he doesn't like what he has at the position. And I believe he is preparing for one or two of them to leave on their own.

Ok, if all that is true, how is the staff F'ing around as supposed?

 

[Catbone]

There's going to be a bit of a meltdown if bailey leaves.

 

[UTMVol76]

On Dayne Davis? Already tiptoed here saying he locks down the LT spot for at least 3 seasons. Doubling down on the jinx and cursing his career, I’m going full D4H here and comparing him to Chad Clifton. ***Pauses for internet violence and incredulous response ***

Only NFL'er I've drank beer with lol

 

[KPT_VFL]

There's going to be a bit of a meltdown if bailey leaves.

Rightfully so. He deserves the chance to be the guy this year. He’s done nothing but prove he’s the best QB on roster time and time again. That must not be enough these days.

 

[Kingston Vol]

Ok, if all that is true, how is the staff F'ing around as supposed?

What do you mean by "f'ing around?"

I don't think Heupel or the staff is doing anything wrong regarding the QBs.

 

[butchna]

Down the depth chart I think. But that's where it always starts. Prove it against the lesser guys, step up and compete against the better guys and see what happens. What we saw were excellent routes, toughness, and good hands while using his body to shield defenders well. Maybe he only plays in mop-up time, but that would be a good thing like Doc posted. Maybe he earns some snaps where a dependable pass catcher works into an open zone in the middle of the field occasionally to move the sticks. Add 10 lbs. and he is joker TE size working from the slot or motion. Will see how it goes, but he made the best use of his snaps while many other scholarship guys did not.

Eli Wolf course. Imagine his fit in this type of offense.

 

[Orange Studs]

Milton Vs. HB is gonna be a battle

I'm not so sure. I believe Bailey is going to win the job. Milton has got a lot to learn in four weeks before the season starts and he doesn't have a lot of experience either. But its always heathy to have competition.

 

[UpstateVol613]

Biggest Takeaways From Tennessee Spring Game (Late Kick Cut)

 

[volbeast33]

Rightfully so. He deserves the chance to be the guy this year. He’s done nothing but prove he’s the best QB on roster time and time again. That must not be enough these days.

He looked better in the one scrimmage we saw him in...... the coaches work with him everyday.

 

[volbeast33]

On Dayne Davis? Already tiptoed here saying he locks down the LT spot for at least 3 seasons. Doubling down on the jinx and cursing his career, I’m going full D4H here and comparing him to Chad Clifton. ***Pauses for internet violence and incredulous response ***

I hope he and Wright are able to be really good tackles..... it makes our offensive so much better.

 

[KPT_VFL]

We are in big trouble if Maurer is the nod. Still throws off his back foot, still throws into coverage, still more interested in “swag” and being a “hype” man, still more interested in trying to make “Heisman” plays, still inaccurate with poor decision making. Just give me the “boring” game that HB plays with he just gets the ball to the playmakers and is poised. I get that he doesn’t fit their “system” but he’s clearly the best QB on roster AGAIN.

 

[Orange Studs]

Bailey? Cmon now.

Kingston is just a foundation of misinformation. lol