Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

[LA Vol]

What plays out in your opinion?

If he gets offers, I think Sexton will play hardball and leverage the situation to the max.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

I was watching that game and that backup QB was terrible. Absolutely terrible lol.

He was horrible. And they still scored 32 points against that defense. That LSU team steamrolled GA that year and Heup nearly beat them. If Milton had not gotten injured, he would have beaten them.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Not gonna make the mistake of looking at stats and proclaiming a coach is great. Remember how excited people were because Pruitt was tops in all defensive categories?

When you do a deep dive on his resume you come to find he couldn’t stop good offenses. UCF fans didn’t like Heupel because his offense went too fast and was too predictable. I don’t think they’re wrong. I’m laying out what I hope to see him improve on. This is gonna be his 4th year as a head coach so he has plenty of room to learn and improve how he runs things

Gabriels deficiencies had a lot to do with it seeming "predictable"...plus if it was so dang predictable then how the eff did they manage to average a top five offense under Heupel despite the deficiencies of the QBs he had to work with after Milton went down?...I guess that was some serious voodoo he was performing...

 

[UTMVol76]

He was horrible. And they still scored 32 points against that defense. That LSU team steamrolled GA that year and Heup nearly beat them. If Milton had not gotten injured, he would have beaten them.

To be honest LSU had a bunch of Defensive starters sit that game out, but an SEC backup should still roast an AAC player

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

As we've talked about, I'm more worried about his time at Missouri.

You mean the time he took the worst offense in the SEC and made it the best in two years?

 

[cHiZzLeVOL]

He was horrible. And they still scored 32 points against that defense. That LSU team steamrolled GA that year and Heup nearly beat them. If Milton had not gotten injured, he would have beaten them.

If muffed punts could be advanced they would of won that game.

 

[Devo182]

When Heup’s offense isn’t clicking they give it back even faster

Do the math. About 30-40 seconds difference. Gonna change the scheme because a hyperfast 3 and out gives the defense 30 seconds of less rest vs a slow offense?

Furthermore, the point of using this offense is that the coaches think it is optimal, therefore it may produce fewer 3 and outs. So the overall effect is even less.

And fwiw "ball control" and wearing out defenses with ball control has been largely debunked as myth.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Working the McDonald's drive thru?



He is probably toxic. He sucked total *** as a coach and was only a good recruiter because he was passing out bags of cash.

Fify

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

To be honest LSU had a bunch of Defensive starters sit that game out, but an SEC backup should still roast an AAC player

I'm not sure that's true. But even if it were, again, Mack was not their starting QB and he was horrible. And yet there they were right in the game. And if you go watch the lead up to that game, LSU and coach O were out for blood. They wanted to beat UCF badly.

But regardless, judging from what SCfan and Kingston have been saying, opt outs and starters out don't matter. It doesn't matter that Heup had over 10 starters opt out and multiple injuries in 2020, he went 6-4 and lost one possession games or something, so he isn't that good.

 

[cHiZzLeVOL]

When Heup’s offense isn’t clicking they give it back even faster

Hueps defense against LSU didn’t play tired. They had busted coverages against a QB who now plays in the NFL so your argument about their time of possession isn’t correct.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

What is it about Heupel you don’t like? I’m genuinely curious.

No mo $$$$$$$$ for the handlers right now..

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Lol...glad somebody caught that..

 

[Brillovol]

I have given my opinion on Heupel and my reservations about the upcoming season. No point in rehashing the same ideas over and over with no new information.

We'll see how it goes! See y'all in August.

 

[UTMVol76]

I'm not sure that's true. But even if it were, again, Mack was not their starting QB and he was horrible. And yet there they were right in the game. And if you go watch the lead up to that game, LSU and coach O were out for blood. They wanted to beat UCF badly.

But regardless, judging from what SCfan and Kingston have been saying, opt outs and starters out don't matter. It doesn't matter that Heup had over 10 starters opt out and multiple injuries in 2020, he went 6-4 and lost one possession games or something, so he isn't that good.

Check it out, but I remember it clearly partly because I wanted LSU to beat UCFs arse! I agree wholeheartedly about the backup QB, that was a notable weakness.

Also agree on the bad take on UCFs season. No way your team is the same after 10 opt outs, especially with 3-4 of them being starters. Those numbers would MURDER this team!

 

[cHiZzLeVOL]

Do the math. About 30-40 seconds difference. Gonna change the scheme because a hyperfast 3 and out gives the defense 30 seconds of less rest vs a slow offense?

Furthermore, the point of using this offense is that the coaches think it is optimal, therefore it may produce fewer 3 and outs. So the overall effect is even less.

And fwiw "ball control" and wearing out defenses with ball control has been largely debunked as myth.

This right here. If your defense is suffering because of a 30 to 40 seconds difference there are bigger issues with your program lol.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Do the math. About 30-40 seconds difference. Gonna change the scheme because a hyperfast 3 and out gives the defense 30 seconds of less rest vs a slow offense?

Furthermore, the point of using this offense is that the coaches think it is optimal, therefore it may produce fewer 3 and outs. So the overall effect is even less.

And fwiw "ball control" and wearing out defenses with ball control has been largely debunked as myth.

How many times in our lives have we watched UT offenses that were absolutely steamrolling people "slow down" only to choke away big leads?

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

How many times in our lives have we watched UT offenses that were absolutely steamrolling people "slow down" only to choke away big leads?

See OU 2015

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

See OU 2015

Only one of many many many frustrating losses I have witnessed due to playing passive "not to lose" or "take time off the clock" football...

I for one am sick of it...I want to see our teams go for the jugular from beginning to end from now on. I have seen enough of the old way of losing to last me a lifetime.

 

[Batman1948]

Kiffin is a different level play caller than Heup

If that's true, why does Heup kick his a$$ so much?

 

[cHiZzLeVOL]

See OU 2015

Such a heartbreaking loss

 

[StoVol]

Such a heartbreaking loss

Was there

 

[Weezer]

Can we settle this once and for all:

Michael Jordan: Basketball GOAT

LeBron James: Basketball Flopping GOAT

LeBron is one of those fainting goats. Make a loud noise and he'll flop over.

 

[Jackcrevol]

was their?

Was there

 

[GoBigOrange86]

Such a heartbreaking loss

Six years later and it still hurts. That was the moment to change the storyline of UT football, to loudly announce that we were well and truly “back,” and we choked away a 17-point lead.

I will never get over it.

 

[Revived2002]

Was there

Me too. Loudest game I ever attended. I think I screamed for 4 straight hours. Such a bummer. I went convinced that would be the moment Tennessee returned to relevance.