Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

[InVOLuntary]

Who cares if he purchased them. That's what you and many don't get. The money game is a part of recruiting. It's what ultimately gets teams over the hump. Ask Auburn in the Cam Newton sweepstakes that they won, Fla, FSU, Bama, OK, tOSU, UGA, etc if you're in the playoffs you paid somebody. Bottom line is when he had guys he put it all together nothing fraudulent about that at all. Saban, Urb, Kirby, Lincoln, Jumbo, all go get guys because like the late Bobby Bowden said it's all about the Jimmys and Joes and very little Xs and Os.

Wait... I thought you said earlier that those programs didn't buy players.

 

[you]

Who cares if he purchased them. That's what you and many don't get. The money game is a part of recruiting. It's what ultimately gets teams over the hump. Ask Auburn in the Cam Newton sweepstakes that they won, Fla, FSU, Bama, OK, tOSU, UGA, etc if you're in the playoffs you paid somebody. Bottom line is when he had guys he put it all together nothing fraudulent about that at all. Saban, Urb, Kirby, Lincoln, Jumbo, all go get guys because like the late Bobby Bowden said it's all about the Jimmys and Joes and very little Xs and Os.

On one hand, I can say that I don’t want to celebrate championships amd success if it was purchased by breaking the rules…. On the other hand, I did enjoy the 90’s

 

[Orange Studs]

Swain was saying today that the players and coaches have a lot of confidence going into this season. The players feel like they will surprise some teams.

It would be a surprise to all of us to see a D that can line up and tackle. An O that looks doesn't look like a slow motion replay that actually scores a lot of points.

 

[engineerVOL]

At maple street and instead of calling your name when the order is ready they have a question. Today's question is "What two items would you bring to a deserted island?"

Wife answers before I could and says "Rum and a Pirate!"

I looked at her like

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My answer was the mother in law and a one person boat.

you’re a trip, man.

 

[Volnatic]

Who cares if he purchased them. That's what you and many don't get. The money game is a part of recruiting. It's what ultimately gets teams over the hump. Ask Auburn in the Cam Newton sweepstakes that they won, Fla, FSU, Bama, OK, tOSU, UGA, etc if you're in the playoffs you paid somebody. Bottom line is when he had guys he put it all together nothing fraudulent about that at all. Saban, Urb, Kirby, Lincoln, Jumbo, all go get guys because like the late Bobby Bowden said it's all about the Jimmys and Joes and very little Xs and Os.

He paid guys here and went 3-7….and wasn’t particularly competitive in the majority of those 7 losses.

 

[volatil]

I don’t care if you cheat.

I care if you can’t win while cheating.

Don’t tell me about labor pain. Show me the baby.

 

[Orange Studs]

For anyone who is interested in an extended version of this.
(Pete Jenkins is The Godfather of DL play btw)

Hey Hank. Glad you back Bro!

 

[MrVolton]

Who cares if he purchased them. That's what you and many don't get. The money game is a part of recruiting. It's what ultimately gets teams over the hump. Ask Auburn in the Cam Newton sweepstakes that they won, Fla, FSU, Bama, OK, tOSU, UGA, etc if you're in the playoffs you paid somebody. Bottom line is when he had guys he put it all together nothing fraudulent about that at all. Saban, Urb, Kirby, Lincoln, Jumbo, all go get guys because like the late Bobby Bowden said it's all about the Jimmys and Joes and very little Xs and Os.

Then for all the McDonald’s bags that were reportedly going out, Pruitt’s classes at UT should have been way better than they were.

 

[Adam2014]

 

[Dooby15]

 

[Glitch]

My Tennessee Volunteers 21 Season Predictions

Bowling Green - Win
Pittsburgh - Win
TN Tech - Win
@ Florida - Loss
@ Mizzou - Loss
South Carolina - Win
Ole Miss - Loss
@ Alabama - Loss
@ Kentucky - Loss
Georgia - Loss
South Alabama - Win
Vanderbilt - Win

6-6 and 2-6 SEC

What say you?

You think we are losing to UK and Mizzou?

 

[engineerVOL]

That music. Think happy thoughts.

 

[Brillovol]

We did not handle the Bruce Pearl situation well at all….. Any other school in America and he would have still been our coach with no penalties.

We did nothing wrong as a university in the Pearl situation. He lied to NCAA investigators directly. Remember that this was on the heels of USC/Reggie Bush probation so the NCAA hadn't been castrated yet at that time. Pearl was getting a show-cause penalty no matter what we did.

Totally different than today’s climate.

 

[headhunter15]

Speaking of next week, who do you all have between Nebraska or Illinois? Absolute massive game for Frost and Bret Bielema’s first game.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

FYP, you left 3 games off the schedule…
15-0 you know it!

It pained me to type in those 2 L's!

 

[InVOLuntary]

 

[SSVol]

Y'all let de1 make this about firing Pruitt, but the original comment was why was he carrying water for Pruitt when he was such a jerk to schools and kids in Tennessee. If you are really about supporting the kids de1, seems like you would be willing to call Pruitt what he was. None of that has anything to do with paying kids, NCAA, how Tennessee fired him, etc.

 

[Dudley Smith]

Swain was saying today that the players and coaches have a lot of confidence going into this season. The players feel like they will surprise some teams.

I hope they are feeling this way and that they are right, but I can’t help but think back to the reports of Pruitt feeling the same way and telling boosters we were going to “have something” for West Virginia in 2018.

 

[Big Gucci Sosa]

CFB fantasy draft tomorrowwww

 

[Enki_Amenra]

Anyone know about wiring a tv into a boat? Picked up a tv for the game, good feeling I'm gonna jack something up.

 

[volbeast33]

We did nothing wrong as a university in the Pearl situation. He lied to NCAA investigators directly. Remember that this was on the heels of USC/Reggie Bush probation so the NCAA hadn't been castrated yet at that time. Pearl was getting a show-cause penalty no matter what we did.

Totally different than today’s climate.

We didn’t screw it up after he lied…. We screwed it up before he lied….. they knew what was coming and that picture…. You sit down with him with your lawyers…. Go over the situation…. Exactly what he will say to questions….. I am over my department and when state comes into investigate…. I protect my staff in the same manner….. if that same situation happened under Dickey then we would have kept Pearl without even close to a major penalty and possibly made a final four or more…. Our university has been a joke for a long while.

 

[Glitch]

Y'all let de1 make this about firing Pruitt, but the original comment was why was he carrying water for Pruitt when he was such a jerk to schools and kids in Tennessee. If you are really about supporting the kids de1, seems like you would be willing to call Pruitt what he was. None of that has anything to do with paying kids, NCAA, how Tennessee fired him, etc.

He is doing what he always does and moving the goal posts. If you can't defend your position you fall back and make the other person fight through another position regardless of how weak your positions are. The other person sees another weak position and drops a mortar shell on that one too. Over and over until the next appt shows up and De1 puts down his phone and picks up his clippers.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

I look at it more like the Bruce Pearl situation. Instead of letting a coach drag you down, you fire his ass and let the NCAA see that once you became aware of the action, you acted. Personally, I hope the NCAA slaps a show cause on Pruitt's ass. As for the "this is the way it is" argument, I'm not sure which set of morons made the decision that firing a coach for cause was taboo, but I think that's ludicrous, A coach should be responsible for what he does. And I don't disagree that everyone cheats, even UT, but hell, JMO, sloppy cheating should be a firing offense. If your sloppy and get caught, you've failed at your job. And if you're going to be sloppy in how you cheat, why compound it by being a prick to people who will rat you out? Whoever it is that came forward to Plowman, how do we know they didn't threaten to take it to the NCAA unless she acted? What then?

Don't get me wrong. I hate how this was handled so publicly, but I'm not going to cry over Pruitt not getting paid for having screwed my university. **** him. He played a huge part in making this mess. You talk about Butch making a mockery of us, what the hell do you think Pruitt did? Then you want to pay him millions on top of that. **** that.

In the beginning of this, and even now I have some real misgivings about it...I thought burning it all to the ground was a horrible unnecessary mistake, but I am not sure anymore. It really totally depends on how this rebuild goes...

 

[volbeast33]

Lack of officials isn’t going to be a problem just because we get yelled at. That’s a small part of it. The biggest issues are the time involved and minimal pay. I worked games Thursday, Friday and Saturday this week plus had an hour long official’s meeting Monday night. I drove over 200 miles to games this week and won’t get reimbursed mileage.

I do it because I love football and enjoy being a part of the game. Trust me officials know we are going to get yelled at. Every time we throw a flag 50% of the crowd is going to agree and the other half thinks you’re blind. Our main job is to ensure a fair game and stay out of the way.

Ok….. I thought you were insinuating it was bc of the fans…. I have talked to more than a few different officials that have acted like they were ready to give it up bc of the fans and it makes me shake my head every time…. They do need to add a bigger financial incentive and that might bring in better quality officials. I am thinking about getting into officiating when my kids graduate but I still have a few years to go.

 

[VolsDoc81TX]

It pained me to type in those 2 L's!

Don’t cause yourself unwarranted pain. Drop the Ls. Embrace the Ws!

Repeat after me…15-0