Recruiting Forum Football Talk IV

[cHiZzLeVOL]

"Tennessee feels strongly that the players involved in the alleged violations have transferred elsewhere and many will be in post-season play themselves. For the current players and recruits, putting to bed speculation on a possible bowl ban is a step forward from the cloud surrounding the program for the last year. . ."

One of the biggest reasons Maurer was forced out IMO. Kid was using the coaches credit card for clubs…. Was probably the final piece to the puzzle of getting everyone out that had committed violations

 

[MoCo_Vol]

I began my statement with “talented players”. Lots of players are entering portal and are not wanted by other teams. They are making a mistake by leaving.

Yeah, I suppose if you want to qualify it with a subjective term like "talented" then sure....but that varies by person, to me for example a scholarship athlete at a P5 school would be considered talented in my book.

I'd say it's a few dozen who enter the transfer portal with another school predetermined. And even then with the way class limits are those aren't always firm commitments by the new school. A great example would be with Henry T and how long that went on before it was decided. I'm sure the choice to go to Bama was already made, but Bama forced him to wait in case they needed that spot for another HS talent if they landed the right one.

 

[SweetasSoda]

I don't care about the NFL or the Raiders or Ruggs but that's about the only thing that will ever help the survivors. Ruggs should still receive some punishment though because what he did was incredibly reckless regardless of intention but people kid themselves when they say prison time helps anyone (it doesn't even help the families of victims who feel the same grief regardless). Prison time is simply a price to be paid for a wrong nothing more or less. (In the case of dangerous offenders like career criminals and violent offenders it can be more but this is more a one-off situation that could happen to anyone who makes a bad choice, drinks too much, and owns a fast enough car). Taking away a year of his life and forcing a sizable restitution should be enough to set someone like Ruggs on the right path (although I understand NV requires more time than that). The goal in a case like this where there was never any intent to do harm should be to give as much restitution to survivors as possible and prevent Ruggs from making similar choices in the future.

Speaking from experience with my family and friend's families, it most definitely makes a difference knowing they are paying for the choices they made that took your loved one's life. You still have the grief, but you also have justice. Even know of two girls (one my best friend's sister and the other my cousin's best friend) that were killed at 16 because they were in the car with someone drinking that was going over 100, wrecked, threw them out of the car and both flew over a house with one landing in a tree. The other survivor in the car said they were all screaming for him to stop. The classmates called or contacted him or his parents on the anniversary saying it was one of the two girls calling. Twenty something years and they are still upset he only served a few months.

So don't drink and drive so that you don't end up serving prison time for killing an innocent person leaving years of grief for their family!

 

[Tennessee Golfer]

 

[Ace]

He is no threat to anyone now. If he were a long time alcoholic with a history of dui then he could be assessed a threat to repeat the offense. This is the kind of mistake most people don't repeat. Removing him from society is punitive not corrective. Keeping him jailed doesn't protect us, it simply punishes.

If he loses his source of income, then it hurts the victims family too in limiting civil damages. Money does not bring back a loved one, but it is another way to make the offender pay. No excuse for what he did, but you make sense.

 

[nicksjuzunk]

 

[Ace]

Yeah, I suppose if you want to qualify it with a subjective term like "talented" then sure....but that varies by person, to me for example a scholarship athlete at a P5 school would be considered talented in my book.

I'd say it's a few dozen who enter the transfer portal with another school predetermined. And even then with the way class limits are those aren't always firm commitments by the new school. A great example would be with Henry T and how long that went on before it was decided. I'm sure the choice to go to Bama was already made, but Bama forced him to wait in case they needed that spot for another HS talent if they landed the right one.

Many in transfer portal are walk ons. Not sure they should count. My point is any player that can contribute on a P5 level is not going to randomly enter the portal. All of those are being back channeled. It is a new day in recruiting.

 

[SweetasSoda]

He is no threat to anyone now. If he were a long time alcoholic with a history of dui then he could be assessed a threat to repeat the offense. This is the kind of mistake most people don't repeat. Removing him from society is punitive not corrective. Keeping him jailed doesn't protect us, it simply punishes.

I want them punished!!!

 

[peaygolf]

Ya got 1 job to do.........Proof read! SMH

 

[Ace]

Yeah, I suppose if you want to qualify it with a subjective term like "talented" then sure....but that varies by person, to me for example a scholarship athlete at a P5 school would be considered talented in my book.

I'd say it's a few dozen who enter the transfer portal with another school predetermined. And even then with the way class limits are those aren't always firm commitments by the new school. A great example would be with Henry T and how long that went on before it was decided. I'm sure the choice to go to Bama was already made, but Bama forced him to wait in case they needed that spot for another HS talent if they landed the right one.

In talking with a P5 coach, they are being bombarded by transfer inquires for players. I assume some coaches are doing the same in reverse.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Lol Ben McKee. We just sourcing anyone now?

LOL. Cause Ben McKee doesn't work for Volquest

Keep reaching bro

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Need to see recruiting pick up now

 

[Enki_Amenra]

Need to see recruiting pick up now

I believe it will, pretty soon too.

 

[pierce60]

Need to see recruiting pick up now

I've got a hot take on recruiting.....It's going better than we think it is, but much like everything else the staff and AD don't want to publicize it.

I find it really hard to believe that we've gone the entire season to this point without ONE kid jumping on board.

I have no evidence to support this, but they've tried so hard to keep things under wraps it wouldn't shock me if this was the case with recruiting too.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

Many in transfer portal are walk ons. Not sure they should count. My point is any player that can contribute on a P5 level is not going to randomly enter the portal. All of those are being back channeled. It is a new day in recruiting.

Agreed, the % I shared were from Power 5 Transfers polled by 247. All on scholarship according to the article.

 

[RiseToTheTop]

Need to see recruiting pick up now

Was our last commit Nichols? I dont remember and havent looked. But that had to be July or August?

 

[RiseToTheTop]

I've got a hot take on recruiting.....It's going better than we think it is, but much like everything else the staff and AD don't want to publicize it.

I find it really hard to believe that we've gone the entire season to this point without ONE kid jumping on board.

I have no evidence to support this, but they've tried so hard to keep things under wraps it wouldn't shock me if this was the case with recruiting too.

its a good point.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

I feel like as a transfer in this day and age you better have your mind/heart in the decision. Cause just because a coach at another school is sweet talking doesn't guarantee you anything.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Was our last commit Nichols? I dont remember and havent looked. But that had to be July or August?

Nimrod on Aug 5

 

[volfaninpa]

its a good point.

Setting up for a good finish to this class?

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

I've got a hot take on recruiting.....It's going better than we think it is, but much like everything else the staff and AD don't want to publicize it.

I find it really hard to believe that we've gone the entire season to this point without ONE kid jumping on board.

I have no evidence to support this, but they've tried so hard to keep things under wraps it wouldn't shock me if this was the case with recruiting too.

You're not wrong

 

[Devo182]

I would have never missed class if I had access to those scooters in college. I also would have absolutely broken an arm, wrist, tailbone, face, etc etc.

That scooter also would have overheated and melted trying to go up The Hill in mid August.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

". . . This means that Donde Plowman's sweeping decisions and the Tennessee administration's decisions to work hand-in-hand with the NCAA and listen to their suggestions have likely paid off. . .

For the past couple of months, sources close to the program have continued to strongly indicate to Volunteer Country on Sports Illustrated that Danny White and Plowman both have been pushing strongly to avoid a postseason ban due to the mass exodus of players and the decision to terminate multiple employees last January. . ."

~Sports Illustrated

 

[BigSteve09]

That scooter also would have overheated and melted trying to go up The Hill in mid August.

me with my two scooters, one for each foot, laughing all the way up the hill

 

[Devo182]

What ncaa did today to OK st scares me with our dumbazz idiots turning ourselves in… we are probably screwed

Wasn't there a whistleblower in our case? If true, I'm not sure there was any other avenue. Suppressing a whistleblower is setting you up for a legit death sentence.