Recruiting Forum Football Talk IV

[cHiZzLeVOL]

People obviously haven’t watched the videos of our offense.

I’m not sure what half the people on this board watched lol.

 

[HankHill]

Kyle Trask couldn't beat out Felipe Franks but go off.

Franks started for multiple SEC teams and made the 53 man roster for the Falcons.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

In this thread we have learned that if a QB can't win the starting job his freshman year then he isn't good and should just go ahead and quit football.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Franks started for multiple SEC teams and made the 53 man roster for the Falcons.

Franks is terrible and the fact that you're defending him shows how ridiculous your take is.

Joe Milton has first round measurables and won the starting job at Michigan and now at UT. So here is your argument turned on its head.

 

[HankHill]

I think you missed the point there, Jetsy

Idc what his point was. My point was two different staffs with highly respected coaches both put HB outside the two deep. That’s a red flag no matter which way you look at it.

 

[cHiZzLeVOL]

In a really simple version:

Outsides DBs play pressed MOD (Man out&deep). If their man goes inside, they zone off. the safeties are reading the inside WRs and/or QB depending on the call. But basically at its core Pitt plays it because it’s hard to throw screens against rolled up corners and it makes the routes you get predictable.

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Hurts them in the run game though.

 

[HankHill]

In this thread we have learned that if a QB can't win the starting job his freshman year then he isn't good and should just go ahead and quit football.

Bass being the typical drama Queen. I’ve missed you.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Idc what his point was. My point was two different staffs with highly respected coaches both put HB outside the two deep. That’s a red flag no matter which way you look at it.

HB was not out of the two deep for the last staff considering he took over the starting role immediately after JG was benched. So you're wrong.

Secondly, he's a freaking covid freshman who just went through his first spring and fall camp. The other two guys have years of experience ahead of him starting at major programs. Your take that he sucks based on this is one of the most foolish takes I've read on here in a long time and that's saying something.

 

[Revived2002]

I actually agree with Rucker here. If Pitts DB's turn their backs on the QB, he should run for a lot of yards and 3rd down conversions.
I hope Milton is more decisive this week.

If he isn’t, I bet Heupel starts to pull the plug on him. Heupel doesn’t strike me as someone who wants to sit around for very long and watch someone overthrow guys or miss open receivers.

I get giving Milton every opportunity. The natural talent is off the charts. Will be fascinating to see if Heupel can get it to translate onto the field on game day. Would be awesome if he could!

 

[Ten_Titans]

Franks started for multiple SEC teams and made the 53 man roster for the Falcons.

Lol. We streeeetching now.

 

[HankHill]

Franks is terrible and the fact that you're defending him shows how ridiculous your take is.

Joe Milton has first round measurables and won the starting job at Michigan and now at UT. So here is your argument turned on its head.

I literally have only said factual statements.

Franks started for Florida.
Franks started for Arkansas.
Franks is on a NFL 53 man roster & 2nd string for the Falcons.

Bailey was the 3rd favorite QB for JP.
Bailey is the 3rd favorite QB for JH.

 

[Smokeytom]

Idk why kids want to play for that guy

 

[HankHill]

HB was not out of the two deep for the last staff considering he took over the starting role immediately after JG was benched. So you're wrong.

Secondly, he's a freaking covid freshman who just went through his first spring and fall camp. The other two guys have years of experience ahead of him starting at major programs. Your take that he sucks based on this is one of the most foolish takes I've read on here in a long time and that's saying something.

When did i say HB sucks? I didn’t. I said turn the page on him because he’s currently our 3rd string and I would like to hope that we only make it to our 2nd string if we are blowing out someone. Team > Player

 

[mr.checkerboards]

So, I just wanted to post this because I find it funny. I've seen Young and a few other newbies that haven't been in Knoxville for long talk about how loud it was Thursday. That wasn't even close to a full Neyland and how loud it can be, just wait until we got a good matchup and a night kickoff.

 

[cHiZzLeVOL]

@HankHill Pitts defense may be there to stop the screens etc, but how many people split receivers out as far as we do?

Especially with Miltons arm, seems like we could easily get some miss matches in the slot and it should keep DBs outside and allow our RBs to have a lot of space… right?

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

I literally have only said factual statements.

Franks started for Florida.
Franks started for Arkansas.
Franks is on a NFL 53 man roster & 2nd string for the Falcons.

Bailey was the 3rd favorite QB for JP.
Bailey is the 3rd favorite QB for JH.

Milton started for Michigan
Milton started for Tennessee
Literally the same argument you're making for one of the worst QB's in the SEC over the last few years trying to defend your pitiful statement.

Bailey was right behind JG. How do I know that? Let's see, he started the last 4 games of the year.
Bailey is a covid freshman behind a grad transfer (If he is in fact behind Hooker) and a redshirt junior. Experience matters.

Dismissing him this early is just foolish. And that's enough. it's so foolish I'm not going to waste my time debating it anymore.

 

[volbeast33]

In a really simple version:

Outsides DBs play pressed MOD (Man out&deep). If their man goes inside, they zone off. the safeties are reading the inside WRs and/or QB depending on the call. But basically at its core Pitt plays it because it’s hard to throw screens against rolled up corners and it makes the routes you get predictable.

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Just curious….. how do you think they have to adjust to our wide sets/ veer and shoot nature of our offense?

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Milton started for Michigan
Milton started for Tennessee
Literally the same argument you're making for one of the worst QB's in the SEC over the last few years trying to defend your pitiful statement.

Bailey was right behind JG. How do I know that? Let's see, he started the last 4 games of the year.
Bailey is a covid freshman behind a grad transfer (If he is in fact behind Hooker) and a redshirt junior. Experience matters.

Dismissing him this early is just foolish. And that's enough. it's so foolish I'm not going to waste my time debating it anymore.

Hooker wasn't on the roster though and Maurer couldn't stay healthy. So he was kind of second by default

 

[volbeast33]

Milton started for Michigan
Milton started for Tennessee
Literally the same argument you're making for one of the worst QB's in the SEC over the last few years trying to defend your pitiful statement.

Bailey was right behind JG. How do I know that? Let's see, he started the last 4 games of the year.
Bailey is a covid freshman behind a grad transfer (If he is in fact behind Hooker) and a redshirt junior. Experience matters.

Dismissing him this early is just foolish. And that's enough. it's so foolish I'm not going to waste my time debating it anymore.

I agree…. No one should be dismissing him.

 

[VOLSONLY]

The dystopian future of the Big 12 without OU and Texas was on display at the Texas Tech-Houston game this weekend:

Lol I first thought the lady in black was a nun with one of those hoodies on. Then I realized it was her hair, then I realize it must have been a wig that someone jerked off her head. Bahahahahaha people are nuts

 

[HankHill]

@HankHill Pitts defense may be there to stop the screens etc, but how many people split receivers out as far as we do?

Especially with Miltons arm, seems like we could easily get some miss matches in the slot and it should keep DBs outside and allow our RBs to have a lot of space… right?

We are primarily an inside zone team so it’s intention is to hit inside the box. We will do some counter and dart schemes but at its core that’s what we are. We split out wide to gain a numbers advantage in the middle and stop teams from adding an extra hat in there from a safety.

I think the biggest thing is being able to consistently gain positive plays and not getting into 3rd & longs to keep our RPO games alive.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Hooker wasn't on the roster though and Maurer couldn't stay healthy. So he was kind of second by default

Maurer was not ahead of HB last year health or no health.

What difference does Hooker make? He said that HB has been third string for two staffs. That's factually inaccurate. He was the 2nd string halfway through the year in his first season without spring, without fall, missing 40 days of practice, and with Chris freaking Weinke coaching him. He started the last 4 games and was clearly the best QB on the roster last year.

He may be the third best on the roster right now. I don't know. I think he's better than Hooker. But even if he's third best right now, who freaking cares? It literally says nothing about his future where he is at this point in his career behind two veterans. I don't know if he's going to live up to that 5 star billing. But no one, not even all knowing hank hill, knows that he won't. We'll see. I hope he stays because under Heupel's coaching he could develop into something special.

 

[HankHill]

Milton started for Michigan
Milton started for Tennessee
Literally the same argument you're making for one of the worst QB's in the SEC over the last few years trying to defend your pitiful statement.

Bailey was right behind JG. How do I know that? Let's see, he started the last 4 games of the year.
Bailey is a covid freshman behind a grad transfer (If he is in fact behind Hooker) and a redshirt junior. Experience matters.

Dismissing him this early is just foolish. And that's enough. it's so foolish I'm not going to waste my time debating it anymore.

Are you really trying to say Franks is one of the worst QBs in the sec over the last few years? Do you watch the games?

 

[ChattaTNVol]

I literally have only said factual statements.

Franks started for Florida.
Franks started for Arkansas.
Franks is on a NFL 53 man roster & 2nd string for the Falcons.

Bailey was the 3rd favorite QB for JP.
Bailey is the 3rd favorite QB for JH.

Not really true that HB is the 3rd best QB we have. The coaches decided in the spring that he needed a development year-- which he didn't get last year. Salter would've had the same. Milton and Hooker are more experienced and have shown they can scramble behind an OL without much depth. If UT felt good about OL depth, Cade would be at G. Calbert's injury and no better option means UT is already at Plan B and got a glimpse of Plan C when Carvin shifted and Lane came in.

Milton was what he has been in practice-- strong arm, inconsistent, not always accurate, but showing flashes of what everyone hopes he can be. It wasn't the best-case scenario or the other QBs would have gotten more PT. But getting Milton comfortable and letting him work through some things in a game that was never in jeopardy should help going forward. All the QBs have plenty to work on to get them where UT needs them to be for SEC play.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Maurer was not ahead of HB last year health or no health.

What difference does Hooker make? He said that HB has been third string for two staffs. That's factually inaccurate. He was the 2nd string halfway through the year in his first season without spring, without fall, missing 40 days of practice, and with Chris freaking Weinke coaching him. He started the last 4 games and was clearly the best QB on the roster last year.

He may be the third best on the roster right now. I don't know. I think he's better than Hooker. But even if he's third best right now, who freaking cares? It literally says nothing about his future where he is at this point in his career behind two veterans. I don't know if he's going to live up to that 5 star billing. But no one, not even all knowing hank hill, knows that he won't. We'll see. I hope he stays because under Heupel's coaching he could develop into something special.

Eh, I'll be surprised if he starts here besides everyone else getting injured