Recruiting Forum Football Talk IV

[johnfnkelly]

I'm leaning towards Clemson just not being a "great" football team this year. Elite defense, but that OL was awful and they don't have the skill players right now to overcome it.

 

[cHiZzLeVOL]

A Missouri fan told me that in CJH offense only one receiver is primary and all the others are decoys. That’s why Milton kept waiting on the primary to come open when other receivers were running wide open. He said the QB doesn’t have to go through progressions. He said it works against weaker opponents but not the very best of the SEC. We shall see I guess.

This is just false

 

[UT = Checkmate]

I'm leaning towards Clemson just not being a "great" football team this year. Elite defense, but that OL was awful and they don't have the skill players right now to overcome it.

They will run through ACC. They just played a great UGA defense.

 

[csprig9]

A Missouri fan told me that in CJH offense only one receiver is primary and all the others are decoys. That’s why Milton kept waiting on the primary to come open when other receivers were running wide open. He said the QB doesn’t have to go through progressions. He said it works against weaker opponents but not the very best of the SEC. We shall see I guess.

hey QB, don’t throw to wide open Wrs….
Okay

 

[voltn21]

This is just false

Yeah I don’t want to believe that also lol.

 

[cHiZzLeVOL]

Yeah I don’t want to believe that also lol.

No offense would survive in any college program if that was the case.

 

[johnfnkelly]

A Missouri fan told me that in CJH offense only one receiver is primary and all the others are decoys. That’s why Milton kept waiting on the primary to come open when other receivers were running wide open. He said the QB doesn’t have to go through progressions. He said it works against weaker opponents but not the very best of the SEC. We shall see I guess.

I would imagine nearly every team in the country has a primary receiver. QB's tend to target the most consistent receiver more often than not.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Can someone explain to me why the Knoxville News-Sentinel is writing an article about how the 12 former TN players who transferred to Power 5 schools did this weekend? Are they just that jaded they want to do whatever is necessary to make the University look bad? Did I just answer the question myself?

By the way I refuse to actually read the article or share it on here....

I loathe the coverage of sports here. I don’t understand why everyone wants to either be unbiased or a “shock jock”/negative type. I’ve become a big Barstool Sports guy over the years. I wish they had more college football coverage because they let people be fans and still talk sports. I hate listening to people try to be “unbiased journalists” these days. I’d rather listen to a passionate college fan talk sports, as long as they aren’t a Tennessee hater. So much more entertaining than these guys that want to be “unbiased”… if you know you have a passionate fanbase, speak their language and be passionate.

 

[UpstateVol613]

FTR posting a AtoZ article should be ban worthy in my humble opinion.

Also if Gabriel didn’t burn a couch or mattress how does he expect anyone to take him seriously. He went to Twitter woopitydoo!! We just had a QB who took to Twitter with all his internal thoughts.

 

[Ace]

Can someone explain to me why the Knoxville News-Sentinel is writing an article about how the 12 former TN players who transferred to Power 5 schools did this weekend? Are they just that jaded they want to do whatever is necessary to make the University look bad? Did I just answer the question myself?

By the way I refuse to actually read the article or share it on here....

Who reads the KNS?

 

[Glitch]

A Missouri fan told me that in CJH offense only one receiver is primary and all the others are decoys. That’s why Milton kept waiting on the primary to come open when other receivers were running wide open. He said the QB doesn’t have to go through progressions. He said it works against weaker opponents but not the very best of the SEC. We shall see I guess.

So the QB only has one option even if another receiver is standing all alone in the end zone waving his hands with no defenders within 30 yards? Our QB would have to be like, "Yeah, I saw you but your route was a decoy route and I can't throw to you."

Makes zero sense at all.

 

[PlanetVolunteer]

A Missouri fan told me that in CJH offense only one receiver is primary and all the others are decoys. That’s why Milton kept waiting on the primary to come open when other receivers were running wide open. He said the QB doesn’t have to go through progressions. He said it works against weaker opponents but not the very best of the SEC. We shall see I guess.

It's just RPO stuff. You try and hit the first progression if you can.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Yeah he didn’t have any control over that and Gabriel is stupid for thinking he did. Also, Gabriel is stupid for what he said about Huepel’s offense lol. QBs have the ability to change the play at the line on what they see pre-snap.

If Gabriel felt uneasy it was because he was having trouble reading pre-snap, sounds like a bunch of excuses to me. Either way UCF posted over 600yds per game average of Offense…. Hueps offense was doing something right.

This has been the most bizarre thing coming out of UCF and their fanbase. They are trying to criticize Heupel's offense that was number 1 in the country. I mean, they saw nothing about that horrible defense.

It's the bitterness of butthurt fans and players who are mad that Heupel left for another job.

 

[Bigworm87]

I hate sharing one of their articles, but I assume this is what they were talking about. Gabriel essentially said Heupel’s offense is too simple, Malzahn’s is fast but more complex.

Malzahn lost to arguably our worst coach in school history. His offense takes a specific qb and has mostly been figured out in the SEC. We will know more answers in a year or 2 once our guys get settled in. Until then, lets have some fun and hope that we put up a lot of points.

 

[VolGee4]

Based on LAVOLs statement, Bailey is the best quarterback, but is not playing.

Not sure how you interpreted it that way. He said that Milton had a leg up because this staff brought him in, and this staff wants to develop Bailey for a year. Simply not what he said.

 

[Vols4us]

A Missouri fan told me that in CJH offense only one receiver is primary and all the others are decoys. That’s why Milton kept waiting on the primary to come open when other receivers were running wide open. He said the QB doesn’t have to go through progressions. He said it works against weaker opponents but not the very best of the SEC. We shall see I guess.

Proved my previous point perfectly. Dumb narrative building without substance and easily disproved by simply watching the games.

 

[cHiZzLeVOL]

This has been the most bizarre thing coming out of UCF and their fanbase. They are trying to criticize Heupel's offense that was number 1 in the country. I mean, they saw nothing about that horrible defense.

It's the bitterness of butthurt fans and players who are mad that Heupel left for another job.

Exactly lol, and when Gus plays a good team and UCF gets drug because off his “complicated offense” it’s going to be funny lol

 

[VolGee4]

I hate sharing one of their articles, but I assume this is what they were talking about. Gabriel essentially said Heupel’s offense is too simple, Malzahn’s is fast but more complex.

I don't know how to respond to this. Malzahn's offense became very predictable in the SEC, and Pruitt even had it figured out. Just a QB having sour grapes about his former coach.

 

[SamRebel35]

A Missouri fan told me that in CJH offense only one receiver is primary and all the others are decoys. That’s why Milton kept waiting on the primary to come open when other receivers were running wide open. He said the QB doesn’t have to go through progressions. He said it works against weaker opponents but not the very best of the SEC. We shall see I guess.

A lot of these Air Raid type offenses use a simple triangle progression where the qb reads open grass rather than people or coverages. And the traingle can be the same for multiple route trees. Really simplifies the reads and speeds up decision making. It isn't just one primary and a bunch of decoys. That may be what it ends up looking like when an incapable QB is trying to run it, though. But Locke wasn't incapable, so I'm not sure what your friend was talking about.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Exactly lol, and when Gus plays a good team and UCF gets drug because off his “complicated offense” it’s going to be funny lol

I can't wait to watch that offense steadily decline. Even if it doesn't this year because Gabriel is a quality player, it will because Gus cannot develop a QB. It's going to be glorious to watch

 

[drvenner]

What yall arguing about now??

What are you....crazy? We are not arguing!!!!! Quit being so argumentative about our arguing.

 

[tennesseefan31]

If you can make it to Neyland this weekend, by all means go. Need a huge home field advantage.

I'll be there

 

[BigOrange15]

A Missouri fan told me that in CJH offense only one receiver is primary and all the others are decoys. That’s why Milton kept waiting on the primary to come open when other receivers were running wide open. He said the QB doesn’t have to go through progressions. He said it works against weaker opponents but not the very best of the SEC. We shall see I guess.

Leave it the Missouri fan to not know wtf he is looking at when football is involved.

 

[rekinhavoc]

This has been the most bizarre thing coming out of UCF and their fanbase. They are trying to criticize Heupel's offense that was number 1 in the country. I mean, they saw nothing about that horrible defense.

It's the bitterness of butthurt fans and players who are mad that Heupel left for another job.

Boy do they have a treat in store for them.

Chew on this UCF fans..... Gus got torched by JG.

 

[PlanetVolunteer]

A lot of these Air Raid type offenses use a simple triangle progression where the qb reads open grass rather than people or coverages. And the traingle can be the same for multiple route trees. Really simplifies the reads and speeds up decision making. It isn't just one primary and a bunch of decoys. That may be what it ends up looking like when an incapable QB is trying to run it, though. But Locke wasn't incapable, so I'm not sure what your friend was talking about.

Yeah Missouri struggled in those big games because they were vastly outclassed talent wise.