Recruiting Forum Football Talk IV

[MoCo_Vol]

Agree mostly but "what she was experiencing was labeled as a mental health thing" isn't entirely accurate. SHE labeled it that way and pushed the narrative that it was mental health because that's a protected issue. She didn't want the criticism of being mentally weak so she hid behind mental health, trivializing everyone who actually struggles with true mental health issues.

And there has to be a better athletic accomplishment than pulling yourself out of a competition. But you're right, her pulling out wasn't quitting and abandoning her country and team, she needed to be benched and only she could do it. The way she did it was cowardly, but she wasn't a quitter.

I wouldn't say cowardly, because technically speaking what she was experiencing does fit into mental health I suppose.

Were there more deserving athletes, I mean in my opinion there were better choices just on her own team. What about Jade Carey who had to step in and even won a Gold in the Floor? Or Sunisa Lee who ended up winning the All-Around Gold and was a big reason the team got silver?

I'm just saying that no one really has any right to throw mud at Simone, I don't care who you are or how famous you are you should always put your own health first.

 

[Batman1948]

The ESPN 30 for 30 episode on SMU (Pony Express) was very good. The extent of cheating by the Southwest Conference was surprising.

They were just trying to keep up with the Jones's

 

[drvenner]

If Eliot keeps turning down all these jobs, people are going to start to think he is scared to take the next step.

I might already be thinking it.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

People tend to forget that the NCAA has their beady little eyes on our program right now-----That should be enough to make everyone think about being a little cautious with how money is being spent

Sort of the issue. I believe all Tennessee deals are pretty much the same, if not more in some cases as other schools, but they're all above board and by the new NIL rules. Some other programs might be handing out money a little early in their "extensive financial planning NIL sessions".

 

[TheRain]

Mom wanted anyone but Florida.

 

[RiseToTheTop]

If Eliot keeps turning down all these jobs, people are going to start to think he is scared to take the next step.

I might already be thinking it.

I was thinking the same thing. They're gonna stop calling him which is probably a good idea.

 

[RiseToTheTop]

Mom wanted anyone but Florida.

she was cool with UT or Bama for sure haha damn i had forgot about that.

 

[Weezer]

Hey! We do not put fruit in our cookies. We are not pinko commies!

I love oatmeal raisin cookies. And chocolate chip cookies. And peanut butter cookies. And no-bake cookies.

And I'm as patriotic as they come!

 

[OrangeSticks]

my mother in law currently has it and is very tired and had 5 days of fever
Never lost smell or taste
Fever broke today

My wife is sick as hell but it’s like a upper respiratory infection or something

I’m so far having no issues

Don’t have to answer but is everyone vaxed

Only one out of me my wife and her mom is vaxed

Not saying she will (hopefully not), but I didn’t lose taste and smell until a day after fever broke.

 

[JT3]

If Eliot keeps turning down all these jobs, people are going to start to think he is scared to take the next step.

I might already be thinking it.

I bet he regrets not taking the UT job. Duke and Virginia are mid-tier jobs at best. Would definitely be a step down if he were to go to either place. Dabo did him no favors talking him out of taking our job.

 

[jave36]

I wouldn't say cowardly, because technically speaking what she was experiencing does fit into mental health I suppose.

Were there more deserving athletes, I mean in my opinion there were better choices just on her own team. What about Jade Carey who had to step in and even won a Gold in the Floor? Or Sunisa Lee who ended up winning the All-Around Gold and was a big reason the team got silver?

I'm just saying that no one really has any right to throw mud at Simone, I don't care who you are or how famous you are you should always put your own health first.

She knew exactly how everyone would take it when she said mental health. She knew that would force tons of people to take her side when in reality she was undergoing a common issue with gymnasts. 100% cowardly in my opinion. She should have said she had the twisties and needed to bench herself, but her ego loved the GOAT talk and that talk would diminish if she hadn't couched it as a mental health issue. Just so disrespectful to people who have real mental health issues that make their lives a constant struggle.

 

[Weezer]

Glad that he prayed real hard and turned down Tennessee in the end.

God said, "Tony, I've put Tennessee fans through enough. Why don't you just stay at Clemson until next year."

 

[yourstruly23]

From the Oregon board:

I'd rather them hire Harsin.. showdowns with Kiffin are going to be fun going forward

 

[MoCo_Vol]

She knew exactly how everyone would take it when she said mental health. She knew that would force tons of people to take her side when in reality she was undergoing a common issue with gymnasts. 100% cowardly in my opinion. She should have said she had the twisties and needed to bench herself, but her ego loved the GOAT talk and that talk would diminish if she hadn't couched it as a mental health issue. Just so disrespectful to people who have real mental health issues that make their lives a constant struggle.

Mental Health is defined as a person’s condition with regard to their psychological and emotional well-being. What she had is a psychological condition, wouldn't that also be mental health?


You're welcome to your opinion, but I just think the way you're presenting it by completely dismissing her experience in favor of "real mental health issues" of others is part of WHY her situation did gain so much traction and why she was given the TIME magazine award. I mean who are you (or I) to categorize what is or isn't a "real" mental health issue?

 

[Batman1948]

Well it looks like today is my last day as semi-VN insider… my guy is finishing up at UT and is heading to chiropractor school in December.. For @HoleInTheRoof …. The person DW missed was a sports medicine intern/assistant…. The reason why I didn’t have as much info on Tuesday through thursdays was bc he had classes during scheduled practice time. I may still get info from time to time due to connections he has made but nothing like before. Go Vols!

Just gonna be a common dude now Life will never be the same for you again

 

[Weezer]

Agree mostly but "what she was experiencing was labeled as a mental health thing" isn't entirely accurate. SHE labeled it that way and pushed the narrative that it was mental health because that's a protected issue. She didn't want the criticism of being mentally weak so she hid behind mental health, trivializing everyone who actually struggles with true mental health issues.

And there has to be a better athletic accomplishment than pulling yourself out of a competition. But you're right, her pulling out wasn't quitting and abandoning her country and team, she needed to be benched and only she could do it. The way she did it was cowardly, but she wasn't a quitter.

But it is considered a mental health thing as there's no known physical problem that causes athletes to suddenly develop the "twisties" or "yips" or whatever it's called in individual sports. Chuck Knoblauch went from one of the best second baseman in MLB to not being able to accurately throw to first base. There was nothing physically wrong with him. So it's been determined when athletes suddenly lose their abilities like that it has to be some mental component. And as frustrating as it is for the fans, it has to be so much more frustrating for the athlete. Mental problems does not necessarily need to mean diseases like depression, bi-polar, or schizophrenia. It's a wide-ranging term for when there is no physical cause to a problem.

 

[BigSteve09]

You would think while they were trying to keep Cristobal they would have been preparing for other options. Early signing day recruits still signing? Coach from NFL?

They seemed excited about a BIG FISH, and a lot of members were assuming it was Meyer. Probably because every big fanbase assumes their big fish is Meyer, except for us with our Grudes.

 

[Z06VolinWV]

Lost my taste and smell 3 weeks after having Covid. Been 3 mos, and only slightly getting some back.
My wife lost hers immediately, and got hers back about 3 weeks after getting over it.
Super weird how differently it affects everyone!

 

[Devo182]

What is an "NIL source?"

It's what you "have" when you are "Tim Shepherd" (who??)

1,000 followers...do not trust lol. No better than Richard G West.

 

[Batman1948]

It would be nice if we could get some damn staff continuity for once. I hope Banks doesn’t leave. I’m tired of the constant coaching turnover.

Coaching turnover is just part of the game. I don't know how old you are but when Fulmer was our head coach, our fans complained that he kept his staff in tact too long----they wanted him to fire different coaches every year because they had been on the staff too long. It's just part of the profession

 

[TheMagnificantOne]

Lol, I’m gonna revive an oldie but goodie here:

Thoughts on Simone Biles getting Time magazines “Athlete of the Year” precisely because she did pullout of her events in the Olympics.

For me, I never question what she had to do as an individual, but a) that doesn’t make her a hero, she’s just a person and people all have issues they must deal with and b) this is some sanctimonious crap from a media source. You’re telling me there’s not ONE athlete that deserves this award for an actual ATHLETIC feat?

I see you got the fish jumping today...you must be extremely bored...

 

[Batman1948]

How bad will it get in Georgia if Michigan beats them?

Real bad

 

[Batman1948]

Holy **** lol

Tampering maybe?

 

[UTMVol76]

I see you got the fish jumping today...you must be extremely bored...

Getting that award kinda chapped my rear, kinda like Caitlen Jenner getting that ESPN award. Someone said it best earlier that athletic awards are no longer for athletic achievements. Guess I'm just the old man on the porch these days.

 

[Devo182]

Incels are the only ones I know of that call guys Chads. So just how much nookie do they think you're getting and does your wife know?

Oof now there's an interesting...subculture. yikes. Incels...4chan...8chan...first they did the whole illegal porn crap...then flipped on their heads to accuse (troll?) others of similar, leading to qanon.

Don't think all those old folk "true believers" ever knew how badly they were getting trolled or who they were in bed with. Incel culture is so cringey, like they're owed something (yes there is a kinder version - I'm talking the angry young men incels and their rage against society and ties with other antisocial subcultures which I won't throw out here but are well known).

(Fwiw not at all calling Nick's youngens a part of all that afaik the concepts of Chads and Brads have well exceeded incel culture).