Recruiting Forum Football Talk IV

[Batman1948]

I always liked the kid. I hope he finds happiness and success with them

 

[itsme]

I think we're all going to have to come to terms with NIL's effect on recruiting. If the market for an unproven 5 star QB is 1.5 to 2 mil, then we either pay it or get left in the dust. We can complain all we want about it, but it doesn't seem to be changing anytime soon.

So I've been thinking about this and I do think there needs to be a cap of maybe $100k on incoming players with the NIL. I would rather see the players getting the job done on the field making the money. So after their freshman year let the NIL deals be bonkers but kids walking in with multi million dollar deals from high school is out of hand.

 

[Volator]

Laughing at this thread today. Someone said I was combative….

It is funny especially when a poster says (paraphrasing) "he doesn't spend all day responding to posts" then proceeds to respond to most posts that disagree with his "opinion" . Picks strange hills to die on.

 

[mrmax86]

Calzada and Slovis in the portal. Doesn’t mean anything for us but man there’s a ton of QBs in there.

I think it does mean something for us. TONS of churn happening right now, and so far, we're pretty rock solid (knocks on wood). Lots of staff turnover, and QBs learning completely new playbooks could mean some extra Ls early in the season next year (cough, Pitt, cough). So, relatively speaking, we still net positive out of all this.

 

[mrmax86]

So I've been thinking about this and I do think there needs to be a cap of maybe $100k on incoming players with the NIL. I would rather see the players getting the job done on the field making the money. So after their freshman year let the NIL deals be bonkers but kids walking in with multi million dollar deals from high school is out of hand.

Needs to be something above $100k and something less than the max rookie contract in the NFL. Not sure where, but I feel like $100k is too low.

 

[Weezer]

M'ba is headed to Mizzou or Miami

I thought he was down to Auburn and Mizzou? And the way Mi$$ou is recruiting this year is crazy. I had no idea they had big money people.

 

[NoogaVol96]

Just saw Napier somehow pulled Corey Raymond to UF from LSU…..

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You need a new carrier pigeon

 

[itsme]

I think you can get this stuff in Tennessee. Smoke shops carry it I believe.

Maybe you can. I've never seen it here but I live on the Kentucky border and see kratom signs everywhere

 

[Jack Burton]

Just don’t like where the game is headed. These kids aren’t professionals.

I’m glad they’re getting paid, but without some form of regulation it will continue to escalate the same way coaches salaries are going. There’s a reason the NFL went with the rookie salary cap because it was getting out of hand. The NFL has a competent governing body though.

 

[Batman1948]

Never seen a 7 footer that needed to lose weight…dang

I thought the dude was gonna fall down before he stepped on the guys foot and turned his ankle. I'd also like to see his best 40 time

 

[Glitch]

He needs to change positions or realize he’s a backup lifer. He’s not bad to have in the bullpen. He’s just not savvy or tough.

 

[bigl3327]

I thought he was down to Auburn and Mizzou? And the way Mi$$ou is recruiting this year is crazy. I had no idea they had big money people.

Not everyone is buying recruits. People outside of Vol fans will be surprised at our class in year 2.

 

[Weezer]

Not everyone is buying recruits. People outside of Vol fans will be surprised at our class in year 2.

Mi$$ou isn't recruiting off of their on-field success...

 

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

Would love the Auburn news to sway Scott and Gilbert. Hell, even M'ba.

I would rather take another edge rusher. More of a need than DT. More will come in the portal.

 

[Batman1948]

He wanted the Oregon job didn’t he?

He probably just wants to get out of the south and head back to his comfort zone----anywhere out west

 

[Weezer]

I would rather take another edge rusher. More of a need than DT. More will come in the portal.

Hopefully we can get Verse from the portal for edge.

 

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

You want a piece of it? I am still worried about Thursday.

LMAO! You’re good bro! Get the doctor to give you a Valium if you’re already nervous. I didn’t get anything but I had some friends get one before theirs.

 

[bigl3327]

Mi$$ou isn't recruiting off of their on-field success...

There are lots of things to sell a kid and their families in recruiting. If kids believe in your vision for a program they will come. Most of recruiting is still about relationships. Drinkwitz may be a used car salesman like Butch Jones.

 

[Pridedad]

Question for you: are the POTS musicians happy with all the recorded music being played?

The POTS always got the crowd so fired up. I just can’t see the same response to some snippet of recorded music.

I would always choose to listen to the POTS instead. Seems like an incredible waste of all the scholarship money…

I don't think they are. Their biggest heartache was being told they were not allowed to play at all while the offense is on the field. They love their time and take what ever they can get. While they are technically part of the athletic department they don't get the same privileges as others (not saying they should). Most of the kids in the band are not on scholarship. They do get a small stipend at the end of the season ($400.00). They do it because they love it. The majority of them are not music majors either.

 

[Glitch]

Classic----I'd like to see a gif for that

Your wish....

 

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

Hopefully we can get Verse from the portal for edge.

Would be big time. He and young as starters would be terrorizing! I like our chances but many people are going to fight for him.

 

[butchna]

I always liked the kid. I hope he finds happiness and success with them

Wide open offense and a great program at that level. World of opportunity.

 

[Glitch]

You want a piece of it? I am still worried about Thursday.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

I think we're all going to have to come to terms with NIL's effect on recruiting. If the market for an unproven 5 star QB is 1.5 to 2 mil, then we either pay it or get left in the dust. We can complain all we want about it, but it doesn't seem to be changing anytime soon.

To me, it isn't so much of "coming to terms" with it being too much $, it's the open-market problem of rich schools/regions dominating universities in regions with smaller economic footprints.

It's already bad that 3-4 universities dominate recruiting every year. Throw in the NIL market from teams who are already recruiting champs and there is even less competitive equality. The parity value between successful big programs like Alabama and smaller successful programs like Cincinnati will be terrible/non-existent and will cripple any hope for the smaller team to be competitive.

It will also help create a few smaller juggernauts who would've remained at the bottom without the help of NIL contracts. A team like SMU could potentially see a huge increase in recruiting and on-field success thanks to NIL and being in an area with a lot of wealthy boosters. (Oil $, there is probably a better team than SMU to use as an example. . . a small school with support from super-rich local businesses/businesspeople)

Anyway, just an opinion. TIFWIW.

 

[UTProf]

There are lots of things to sell a kid and their families in recruiting. If kids believe in your vision for a program they will come. Most of recruiting is still about relationships. Drinkwitz may be a used car salesman like Butch Jones.

Mizzou's entire class in 1 .996 5* from East, St. Louis. They tend to pull East, St. Louis kids and I don't think they have much competition there. What makes him different is that he's an WR instead of a DL but it wouldn't be the first time they had 1 ridiculous WR. The rest of their class is a handful of 4*s and a ton of 3*s. They only have 16 commits and the vast majority come from areas in close proximity and places no one else really recruits e.g. IL, MO, Neb.