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Bruce Wayne said:
Watching Hooker in this video and then comparing it to pre season is wild. He just looks so much more relaxed and calmer. I know obviously he's the clear starter now so he's more relaxed but it's just crazy how clear it is in his body language.
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Who is the guy in red hat on left side of picture as that video starts?
 
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jave36 said:
I'm contradicting the asinine argument that everyone outside TN believes he gives a DL recruit the best chance to get to the NFL. I personally couldn't name anyone I would rather have than Garner, but you guys think any kind of objective conversation about what others who aren't TN fans means I'm being negative and don't like Garner.

The fact that you brought up his recruiting ability proves you totally and completely ignored my original post, which had nothing at all to do with his recruiting ability. Nolen and all the rest of the DL recruits do not believe he's the best and only coach who can get them to the league, which is basically what the original post I responded to was trying to argue.
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Sorry if you can't understand that what your saying is negative toward Garner and also assuming that we are all a bunch of dolts who have no idea what we're saying.

For the argument of recruiting: How many 5 stars have Georgia brought in on their Defensive Line the last 10 years? How many first round DL did they have? Still have to coach them up.
 
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jave36 said:
I'm contradicting the asinine argument that everyone outside TN believes he gives a DL recruit the best chance to get to the NFL. I personally couldn't name anyone I would rather have than Garner, but you guys think any kind of objective conversation about what others who aren't TN fans means I'm being negative and don't like Garner.

The fact that you brought up his recruiting ability proves you totally and completely ignored my original post, which had nothing at all to do with his recruiting ability. Nolen and all the rest of the DL recruits do not believe he's the best and only coach who can get them to the league, which is basically what the original post I responded to was trying to argue.
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You either have a reading comprehension problem or want to be intentionally obtuse. My original post never said he was the "consensus #1 DL coach in the country." That was your language, and I merely responded with challenging you to show me who has put out more draft picks. His job is to recruit and coach. To be an NFL draft pick, a player normally has to have the talent along with the coaching.

We got deep in the weeds anyway as you admitted you knew exactly what I was inferring as the big picture wasn't just about Nolen. Just because Nolen doesn't believe something doesn't mean he knows jack ****. Just follow the immediate money- that's what it's about.

Geez, I don't have the time to explain it like a school teacher.
 
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i2amavol said:
I am not going to tell you that I am the world's authority on kratom, but most of my colleagues in the field of drug prevention would tell you they have a negative view of this drug. Many people who are in recovery from opioids will crave a replacement, and many end up trying kratom. I have personally had them say to me that it is a nightmare, and only trading one addictive drug for another. Now, in a clinical setting, it might be useful, but I doubt it's usefulness when bought from a local source, and used recreationally. I also do not know of any reputable doctors who are promoting it's use.

There already medications - suboxone and vivitrol - that can be used in a clinical setting. When properly prescribed, within a carefully managed program, they can be very effective.

Even then, choose your doctor carefully. Many are out for money, rather than actually helping their patients.
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I can't imagine this plant would be anything close to the addictive power something like suboxon or methadone boasts. What I've read is the plant carries an addictive quality similar to caffeine and less than nicotine. I would bet the house that it is not even in the same universe as the withdrawals from a high powered opiate, such as hydrocodone, oxycontin, heroin, methadone or subutex/suboxone.

Also, I think using anything as a replacement would be a terrible idea. However, using something that is virtually non-addictive in comparison for stepping down from a chronic addiction to a particular substance could help millions.

The more I've read about this plant, the more obvious it is that it will be studied and eventually approved for use in addiction recovery.
 
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Jack Burton said:
He also mentioned that if you want to secure an elite, top ranked QB the going rate behind the scenes is $1.5 to $2M.
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Somehow, I'm not that worried about that. Projecting high school QBs to college seems like a crap shoot. So many busts. Alternatively, there are some notable cases where QBs significantly out perform their high school rating.

How many $$s would the recruits below have commanded??

Dak Prescott, Dallas, Quarterback


Kenny Pickett, Pittsburgh, Quarterback
 
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jave36 said:
I thought you were a lawyer? Words are supposed to be your specialty in your profession, but you're responding like you totally can't understand the words I'm writing.

We hated losing elite recruits to Auburn, but I didn't see any posts on this board saying "the coaching ability (not recruiting ability) of Garner is the best in the country, so it's no wonder we keep losing these top recruits to him. They're actually smart for going to Auburn instead of Tennessee because Garner will give them a better chance to get to the NFL than anyone at Tennessee." Did you ever see anyone write something like that on here while he was at Auburn? So why are we all of a sudden writing those words now that he's at Tennessee?

And again, the original point I made that you for some reason ignored entirely is that he is not the CONSENSUS best DL coach in the country (like Saban is the consensus best coach in the country, for instance), meaning that not everyone outside of Tennessee believes he gives any given DL recruit the best chance to get to the NFL. My opinion of his coaching ability has nothing to do with it, and his recruiting ability has nothing to do with it. Yet those are the main points being brought up.
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What criteria would you measure the CONSENSUS best DL coach in the country by exactly? You're arguing a point that is subjective at best. Even your illustration of Saban being the "Consensus' best HC could be argued by some fan bases, but I'm sure you're argument would hang upon the amount of titles won, and players put into the NFL.
 
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