Recruiting Forum Football Talk IV

[Jimmy Football]

And that tells me they don't feel confident pulling in "the big fish". Hopefully we can attract one or two and back fill with guys who can fill immediate roles. We really need help on the defense and if Cade doesn't stay I still think we need another OL for depth at the very least.

I don’t know if I would go that far, but it does make me think we’re looking harder at guys wanting to “move up” (like Verse) than Power 5 castoffs.

 

[Vols4us]

For all the criticism Jeremy Banks received this year his final stats look like this: 128 tackles 11.5 TFL 5.5 sacks 1 INT 4 PD.

In a grand total of two full seasons as as ILB.

If fans cannot say good things about his play, they just need to shut up.

 

[MrWiz]

Purdue didn’t

Yeah, Man! If we just had super coach he would have snapped his fingers and had a roster full of players that were recruited to run his system and played like they had been in they system and culture for multiple years like Brohm had last night.

 

[BigSteve09]

If I ever catch who runs that Reddit CFB Twitter account

 

[KB5252]

I don’t know if I would go that far, but it does make me think we’re looking harder at guys wanting to “move up” (like Verse) than Power 5 castoffs.

Verse is already on many programs radar.

 

[Volator]

In a grand total of two full seasons as as ILB.

If fans cannot say good things about his play, they just need to shut up.

Plus this was his first season with an actual coach.

 

[Vols4us]

We need great talent because it's obvious Banks can't do more with less, i.e. Heupel. We'll just have to wait to see who's right. I have an idea that Banks won't be here in 2023.

In regards to that, if have a defense rated in the bottom half of the SEC next year, do you still think he's good or do you think he needs 4-5 years to produce a better than average defense?

Tend to agree. He needs a philosophy change in the off season. I think he can improve, but will he choose to do so or stick to what he has done? The heat in the kitchen is hot in the SEC. He doesn't have the pass rush and LB's he needs to pull off the contain and tackle he likes. If he goes with his current back end philosophy he will be run out of town at the end of next season. Cover 3 and zone 75+% of the time will not get it done. When he does switch it up to man and quarters, the players do not adjust to it as fast because of all the bad zones he uses messes with their natural instincts. Don't like it all. I'm not a contain first guy no matter what personnel there is. It's college. Make the QB uncomfortable and guessing. Quit acting like you are going against PM or Tom Brady.

 

[Dudley Smith]

SIAP, but this guy would be a take:

 

[VolGee4]

On the last possession of regulation, we were trying to get a TD or a 15-yard penalty (to get into FG range) on those two long pass plays. We knew that we were going to beat them long or they would have to commit interference to prevent the score. The refs had been flag happy all game for DPI, it had been reinforced all game that if you throw it up, it's gonna be a flag or a big play. Purdue actually did commit holding/DPI but the refs didn't throw the flag.

We were trying to be too smart and put the game in the refs' hands. It wasn't a bad play call. It should have been flagged. If they wouldn't have held we would have scored. But for whatever reason the refs weren't going to throw the flag. Maybe it was to let the teams play it out?

Well letting them play it out flew right out the damn window in overtime but whatever.

Point is - we had three timeouts and enough time to run whatever we wanted to get in FG range. We should have just been methodical and got into FG range the old fashioned way instead of saying "well, hey, if they like throwing flags, let's let 'em throw some flags."

Easier to say in hindsight because it absolutely was a penalty on at least one of our long passes to end the game. But we'll never know why a penalty wasn't called and we'll never know why the ref was so eager to blow the play dead in OT.

I saw the second long pass to Tillman coming. It was the only real thing to run for him. I didn’t see what was run on the other side of the field.

Tillman had man press coverage with no safety help. The only real play on his side was to beat the press and run. I am guessing that’s what they are taught to read, too.

I too just wanted 10 yards. But it was the correct play and was open. They held, and Hooker missed the throw. Just adds to incompetent officiating.

 

[Adam2014]

I just want to apologize to @Ulysees E. McGill and @RiseToTheTop for some of my posts yesterday. Looking back it seemed like I was coming after y'all some and I am sorry for that. Yesterday was a really tough way to lose a game, but at least the sun came up today.

 

[Orange.]

That touchdown run to clinch our bowl win by Wright! He was unstoppable. The grit and determination was out of this world. It was an effort for the history books. I want to give him credit. He balled the f--- out on that play. It wasn't there and he scored anyway on sheer will. It was a play he would have rightly been proud of his whole life. Who can say it may not have been his career highlight. I praise him for it. These crooked refs are stealing from the players.

 

[Dooby15]

 

[***RoadVol***]

Three things that need to happen to prevent fake injuries.
1. Injured player must sit entire series
2. Both teams remain in their huddle and can't go to sidelines to talk with coaches. Water can be brought to players by training staff only.
3. Defense can only substitute for injured player unless offense makes substitutions.

I would take it even farther. 1st time down you sit the series. 2nd time down you sit the remainder of the quarter. If less than a minute left in the half you set out the next quarter. 3rd time down you are out for the game.

 

[MrWiz]

Also worth adding, Purdue shredded MSU this year too. Similar passing numbers but without the 3 picks. That offense has been clicking like crazy for a couple months.

Look up what

Also worth adding, Purdue shredded MSU this year too. Similar passing numbers but without the 3 picks. That offense has been clicking like crazy for a couple months.

He shredded Ohio State’s 4/5 star loaded defense too.

 

[SpringBokVol]

I am torn between just watching the game or watching and being on volnation at the same time.

I really enjoy the game chat until I don’t and then I can’t get back to a calm place

When I just watch the game I enjoy it and can roll with the ups and downs way better.

It will be a 2022 decision. Respect my decision.

 

[Skullbone]

View attachment 424885

Fire truck filled with mustard en route....

 

[UTfan94]

It's been a fun season. Except for getting HOSED by the refs. Hope next season is equally fun. Maybe Danny White will pay the right person to get the officiating issue resolved.

 

[OGbabyaviVol]

NCAA and conferences do not want to spend the money to get officiating right. With legalized gambling on college level growing by leaps and bounds, the need for better officiating has never been greater. I am not saying officials last night cheated, but ACC has alliance with Big Ten primarily to challenge SEC dominance. That alone raises doubts about last nights officials.

Ding ding ding! Fact that we allowed an ACC crew to call our game when we are playing a big 10 team is absurd! It should’ve been a group of five crew!

 

[OGbabyaviVol]

25 hours before kickoff...


Saw it coming from a mile away and chose to ignore it anyway. So stupid.

This makes me wonder if Vegas is paying the refs to favor a certain team, like Purdue, so that they can make serious bank.

 

[VolGee4]

I've said it all year, he can't scheme up a defense. He continues to sit back in coverage rushing 4 guys. We can't get pressure with 4 guys, especially when the other team has a minimum of 5 blockers. We've shown no ability to cover. One of the issues discussed is how many snaps the defense has to endure. With his defense you're going to die so why die by a 1000 cuts. If the other team is going to score anyway, why not gamble? Maybe force a mistake. If not at least the defense isn't out there for 10 min, 20 play drives.

I always judge coaches by what they accomplish with min tools. I'm sure Banks would be extremely successful at Bama. I respect coaches that do more with less. Heupel is a prime example of this. I 100% acknowledge his tool chest is less than stacked. But he's not doing more with less.

Everyone is saying we just need to get better players in and he'll be fine. Let's be honest, did wee really upgrade the talent on the defensive side of the ball? You've got highly ranked offensive players opening their eyes to what they see on O but I'm not seeing the same enthusiasm on the defensive side.

The old saying goes...

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

I don’t understand how anyone can say that our defensive coaches have a full complement of SEC talent. Theo Jackson was nothing before this year, so you can’t say he was a good player. Alontae was solid but not great. Banks hadn’t shown a whole lot, and we played Solon Page at times. DL was good but still don’t have elite talent there.

The fact that we were top 5 in the nation in TFL is a damn miracle. 3rd down defense has been a problem, but Tim Banks did more with less, and I’m not sure how it’s debatable.

 

[VolNash17]

As I said a few months back. Screw Bama, Michigan and Georgia. Let’s go Bearcats. Upset the Tide please. Praying for some magic here to start the night

 

[cHiZzLeVOL]

I’ll say this Wright won’t see time at RB next year if he keeps hesitating on short yardage situations. You can’t try and find a hole at 4th and 1 you just have to lower your shoulder and go and drive those legs. If he doesn’t fix that the Freshman RBs coming in are going to see the field over him.

 

[jkleno]

I sure miss Derek Barnett. We just can't get pressure on the QB.

 

[Jimmy Football]

I’ll say this Wright won’t see time at RB next year if he keeps hesitating on short yardage situations. You can’t try and find a hole at 4th and 1 you just have to lower your shoulder and go and drive those legs. If he doesn’t fix that the Freshman RBs coming in are going to see the field over him.

I think it’s going to be tough to keep Williams off the field, regardless.

 

[Dudley Smith]

DP