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Saban and Kirby (and to a lesser extent Dabo) are busy criticizing (directly and indirectly) Jimbo and A&M because he stepped on their toes this most recent recruiting cycle for the best of the best. He dethroned their best classes, set the new high score. It's not necessarily HOW A&M did it, but WHO they did it too. They took food off the plate of Bama and UGA. Those guys are not used to someone just eagle-clawing the best cuts right out from under them while they're getting their bibs ready. It pissed them off because YOU CAN'T JUST DO THAT.

Just under that best-of-the-best, elite level of recruiting (which we are entering this cycle, by the way), there are teams like Tennessee that recruit in the 8-20 tier on avg for the past 15ish years. We have to fight teams like Auburn and Ole Miss, and South Carolina, for the majority of the recruits that make up our class. A guy like Kiffin looks up and sees what is happening since NIL came to pass. Tennessee is ascending. Ole Miss won't be able to keep up. He sees the writing on the wall, and his complaints through this last year are gripes from a man who knows the future. More coaches in that 5-20 recruiting arena that we've been brawling in recently are going to start coming out against us too.

They see the deals we're putting together. They're seeing on their own side how hard it is to set up something like Spyre. They're begging their fans to get involved, they're calling their biggest boosters to help stand their program up FAST. They see the events we're putting together like this weekend, and who is giving us time and attention. They know what we're telling them and showing them. They know the families are interested too. We are disrupting everything about the system that they finally thought they had a foothold in.

It scares them, so they fear-monger to the average CFB fan. They talk about the dark path that we're all on. Anything that they can do to slow, what is to them, a runaway train. Because they can't control it anymore.

We love it. We have seen what we can and cannot control for almost two decades now. But we do know what we can control - our passion, our fan involvement. We have accepted the simple equation: Passion + Money + Players = Success. We are one of the only programs that does not seek to disrupt this equation. It is a fair equation.

So the players must ask themselves, who are the coaches that wish to disrupt the new system? Why do they want to do it? Who does it benefit? Why isn't Tennessee worried? Why don't they want to control what a player can and cannot do?

Get a lot of guys together, like this weekend, and it gets everyone talking.
 
Kiffin is like a little kid that when he gave the best toy he ever had away his only recourse is to try and make it sound bad so he can feel better about his self. He will never land at any place where he will be happy until he is given the keys to what ever he considers the best.

His constant remarks about every team that he perceives as better than his should be an alarm to Ole Miss that as soon as a better offer comes he is gone because coming to Ole Miss was just away to get closer to what he wants to be around ......the best.
 
Kiffin is like a little kid that when he gave the best toy he ever had away his only recourse is to try and make it sound bad so he can feel better about his self. He will never land at any place where he will be happy until he is given the keys to what ever he considers the best.

His constant remarks about every team that he perceives as better than his should be an alarm to Ole Miss that as soon as a better offer comes he is gone because coming to Ole Miss was just away to get closer to what he wants to be around ......the best.
If I could change one thing from last year, the throw from Milton at the end of the game (the play before he ran out of bounds) is caught. That was Tillman, I think? Imagine if we'd won 32-31 as time ran out. It would eat Kiffin alive.

Sigh. We should've won anyway.
 
Saban and Kirby (and to a lesser extent Dabo) are busy criticizing (directly and indirectly) Jimbo and A&M because he stepped on their toes this most recent recruiting cycle for the best of the best. He dethroned their best classes, set the new high score. It's not necessarily HOW A&M did it, but WHO they did it too. They took food off the plate of Bama and UGA. Those guys are not used to someone just eagle-clawing the best cuts right out from under them while they're getting their bibs ready. It pissed them off because YOU CAN'T JUST DO THAT.

Just under that best-of-the-best, elite level of recruiting (which we are entering this cycle, by the way), there are teams like Tennessee that recruit in the 8-20 tier on avg for the past 15ish years. We have to fight teams like Auburn and Ole Miss, and South Carolina, for the majority of the recruits that make up our class. A guy like Kiffin looks up and sees what is happening since NIL came to pass. Tennessee is ascending. Ole Miss won't be able to keep up. He sees the writing on the wall, and his complaints through this last year are gripes from a man who knows the future. More coaches in that 5-20 recruiting arena that we've been brawling in recently are going to start coming out against us too.

They see the deals we're putting together. They're seeing on their own side how hard it is to set up something like Spyre. They're begging their fans to get involved, they're calling their biggest boosters to help stand their program up FAST. They see the events we're putting together like this weekend, and who is giving us time and attention. They know what we're telling them and showing them. They know the families are interested too. We are disrupting everything about the system that they finally thought they had a foothold in.

It scares them, so they fear-monger to the average CFB fan. They talk about the dark path that we're all on. Anything that they can do to slow, what is to them, a runaway train. Because they can't control it anymore.

We love it. We have seen what we can and cannot control for almost two decades now. But we do know what we can control - our passion, our fan involvement. We have accepted the simple equation: Passion + Money + Players = Success. We are one of the only programs that does not seek to disrupt this equation. It is a fair equation.

So the players must ask themselves, who are the coaches that wish to disrupt the new system? Why do they want to do it? Who does it benefit? Why isn't Tennessee worried? Why don't they want to control what a player can and cannot do?

Get a lot of guys together, like this weekend, and it gets everyone talking.


"We are disrupting everything about the system that they finally thought they had a foothold on"


BINGO! Well said. That's the best way to put it.

They know what's happening.
 
If I could change one thing from last year, the throw from Milton at the end of the game (the play before he ran out of bounds) is caught. That was Tillman, I think? Imagine if we'd won 32-31 as time ran out. It would eat Kiffin alive.

Sigh. We should've won anyway.
 

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Ehhh, I'd have to rewatch. It was a ball that I certainly wish Tillman was able to catch.

That's where having a 6-8 wr rotation will pay dividends.No doubt I think Tillman could have gotten that if he wasn't on the field for 80% of the game.He gave it a good shot but I'm sure dude was worn at that point
 
That's where having a 6-8 wr rotation will pay dividends.No doubt I think Tillman could have gotten that if he wasn't on the field for 80% of the game.He gave it a good shot but I'm sure dude was worn at that point
He got like an inch off the ground.

Not to mention Milton had to fire the ball to get it in that spot, which was impressive, but it would be hard to time that jump and catch if you were used to catching balls from Hooker.
 
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In an odd SEC office dictated twist, he needed them and the game officials' corruption to pull it off this last time. It will never happen again.
The thing that ticks me off the most is that it was a designed trick play, that totally blew up in their face, that we cleverly figured out and they still got it overturned because, apparently, the level of incompetence at this level is unimaginable.
 
If I could change one thing from last year, the throw from Milton at the end of the game (the play before he ran out of bounds) is caught. That was Tillman, I think? Imagine if we'd won 32-31 as time ran out. It would eat Kiffin alive.

Sigh. We should've won anyway.
You would change that rather than the play being blown dead where we got the ball from their qb and scored?
 
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