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jakez4ut said:
they're not tapped out, but they have to make decisions on where their money goes. as @LA Vol pointed out, many of the big donors have allocated millions of dollars in facilities and other academic related projects.

the university doesn't want that money to suddenly disappear and go to a collective, but they also want the athletics program to continue on it's current trajectory.

so it's about how donors make decisions on what they do with the money they've set aside for UT and UT Sports.

as for Spyre, i think it's probably a foregone conclusion that the one guy TN has to absolutely get was Nico. mission accomplished. im not sure it's all eggs in one basket type of deal, but they clearly have a board, some type of valuation, and in the cases of FM and CT, they were able to get more/equal. we stuck to our guns. i dont' necessarily like it, but i will say that in the case of CT, he went to where he always wanted to go, so "more" wasn't the only factor. we got gundy'd there. with FM, it felt more like a mercenary move, where money/deals were the big factor. i understand he had previous relationships with the staff there. it still didn't feel like he was "going home" per se. who knows.

as a little time separates from Monday, i think it's far more important we get the meat of this class on board, than any individual, regardless of ranking.

to me, these are the guys that will matter in this classs:
July 7th 4:30PM - Cameron Seldon - WR/RB - (1) ‘23 - VA ATH Cameron Seldon | VolNation.com
Early July - Stanton Ramil - OL - (1) ‘23 - AL OT Stanton Ramil | VolNation.com
Mid July - Hunter Osborne - DE - (1) ‘23 - AL DL Hunter Osborne | VolNation.com
Mid July - Nathan Leacock - WR - (2) ‘23 - NC WR Nathan Leacock | VolNation.com
Mid July - Lucas Simmons - OL - (2) ‘23 - FL OT Lucas Simmons | VolNation.com
July 28th - Ja’Keem Jackson - CB - (1) ‘23 - FL CB Ja’Keem Jackson | VolNation.com
August 5th - Chandavian Bradley - DE - (1) ‘23 - MO EDGE Chandavian Bradley | VolNation.com

need to get 4-5 of these guys if at all possible. the three i think are the toughest to get would be osborne, simmons and jackson. the others....i think we have great shots with.
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peaygolf said:
7-8 wins in this conference with the "crap show" CJH took over....that is successful. NOT what is wanted or expected, but a success. After that.........9-10 wins should become the norm for most seasons. Then I'll start to judge.

BOT was right...gotta give guys a chance. Stop the revolving door...........
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It has never been the expectation. It has been the hires and the performances.

Giving a guy a "chance" doesn't matter much when recruits stop listening. There was a ton of buzz around UT and Heupel coming into this recruiting season and it has still been a struggle. There are quality players left on the board but we've already seen some disappointing commits of guys who UT appears to have invested in pretty heavily. Fast forward to next year... and the next if he doesn't win more games. If 7 wins didn't convince top tier talent to come to UT after one year... what are the chances after 2 or 3?

I get wanting to give guys time. I do. But because of recruiting it isn't realistic. More time just makes the next guy's job that much harder.
 
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sjt18 said:
It has never been the expectation. It has been the hires and the performances.

Giving a guy a "chance" doesn't matter much when recruits stop listening. There was a ton of buzz around UT and Heupel coming into this recruiting season and it has still been a struggle. There are quality players left on the board but we've already seen some disappointing commits of guys who UT appears to have invested in pretty heavily. Fast forward to next year... and the next if he doesn't win more games. If 7 wins didn't convince top tier talent to come to UT after one year... what are the chances after 2 or 3?

I get wanting to give guys time. I do. But because of recruiting it isn't realistic. More time just makes the next guy's job that much harder.
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Heupel is here for 5 years minimum due to the way his contract is structured, regardless of outcome. So we might as well give him our full support and hope he is THE guy.
 
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