Recruiting Forum Football Talk IV

[Tennessee Golfer]

I’ve been following recruiting for a long time and if/when we land Bradley and Smith today this week will be the best single recruiting week I can remember. Coyner, Seldon, Sham, Bradley, Smith.

It might’ve been a little more than a week but May 2020 was WILD.

 

[SimplemanTN]

If we add Chandavian and Jalen smith today we will jump to #5 in rankings correct?

 

[MarcoVol]

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[Jimmy Football]

If we add Chandavian and Jalen smith today we will jump to #5 in rankings correct?

But #1 in our hearts.

 

[GUNTERSVOL]

Cool. Take issues with his character. But not the point of the discussion.

I couldn’t care less about Kiffin and I wish many in our fan base would stop giving him free rent in their heads. He is what he is: a talented coach with a great offensive mind who has made some stupid career choices and some unscrupulous moves. He’s no longer our coach, so I don’t really care. The point was, he’s not a “loser” on the Pruitt and Dooley level. He’s actually a good coach, like him or not.

I think the quote is "You are what your record says you are", and that is true on the field and off the field. Did he leave Oakland better than he found it? Did he leave UT better than he found it? Did he leave USC better than he found it? How has FAU trended after his upwardly mobile departure? Granted Oakland and USC were not his decisions, but UT and FAU were. In the middle, was his departure from Bama expedited by Saban or not? Motivation? There CAN be costs for dealing with folks that are character and integrity challenged. Our ineptitude for hiring him has cost us dearly as we doubled down on it when forced into a second hiring in two years.

 

[m1al]

Cool. Take issues with his character. But not the point of the discussion.

I couldn’t care less about Kiffin and I wish many in our fan base would stop giving him free rent in their heads. He is what he is: a talented coach with a great offensive mind who has made some stupid career choices and some unscrupulous moves. He’s no longer our coach, so I don’t really care. The point was, he’s not a “loser” on the Pruitt and Dooley level. He’s actually a good coach, like him or not.

I wish that golf ball would've bounced off his dome and left a large knob on it.

#fanswithbettercontrol

 

[NighthawkVol]

I think the quote is "You are what your record says you are", and that is true on the field and off the field. Did he leave Oakland better than he found it? Did he leave UT better than he found it? Did he leave USC better than he found it? How has FAU trended after his upwardly mobile departure? Granted Oakland and USC were not his decisions, but UT and FAU were. In the middle, was his departure from Bama expedited by Saban or not? Motivation? There CAN be costs for dealing with folks that are character and integrity challenged. Our ineptitude for hiring him has cost us dearly as we doubled down on it when forced into a second hiring in two years.

So if you are what your record says you are, it seems strange to talk about what happened after he left. By that logic, Fulmer was a failure at Tennessee.

We never really saw what Kiffin would do at Tennessee because he left. I don’t think it’s a stretch to say he’d have been better than Dooley or Pruitt or Butch. It’s almost a given.

If Heupel has a Year 2 at Tennessee like Kiffin had in his Year 2 at Ole Miss, we’ll all be very happy. Or should be.

 

[InVOLuntary]

That’s the thing.
People have no idea who they are talking to.

I know @bignewt. I think the OP was spot on.

 

[onevol74]

Kiffin is overrated by a few Tennessee fans’ standards.

He’s a coward and low life scum.

He did more to destroy our program than any coach or AD.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

I’ve been following recruiting for a long time and if/when we land Bradley and Smith today this week will be the best single recruiting week I can remember. Coyner, Seldon, Sham, Bradley, Smith.

Hoopel caint kroot

 

[TennMan101]

So if you are what your record says you are, it seems strange to talk about what happened after he left. By that logic, Fulmer was a failure at Tennessee.

We never really saw what Kiffin would do at Tennessee because he left. I don’t think it’s a stretch to say he’d have been better than Dooley or Pruitt or Butch. It’s almost a given.

If Heupel has a Year 2 at Tennessee like Kiffin had in his Year 2 at Ole Miss, we’ll all be very happy. Or should be.

I believe Kiffin would have taken us very far, pending NCAA investigations, probation, maybe even the death penalty. That dude was partying with his players, cheating on his beautiful wife, AND PAYING PLAYERS! Nothing but trouble laid ahead with him at the helm. JMO

 

[Jackcrevol]

If we add Chandavian and Jalen smith today we will jump to #5 in rankings correct?

Id like to summons some one who's nerdy and good at the maths (or can just use the class calc).

 

[Orange.]

Happy Sunday morning Morans from Hilton Head.
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Looks like clean living is prevailing for you.

 

[Orange.]

"While you're up getting me a beer, run the channels and let's see what's on."

How little things have changed For people who notice the essential and are not distracted by modifications in the gadgets.

 

[Glitch]

I don't know which logo is more embarrassed to be on this dorky thing... The big 10 patch or the adidas one.

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[Glitch]

That’s goofy.

No. That is garbage. This is goofy...

 

[SweetasSoda]

I prefer a genius who values and prioritizes class and character over one that has demonstrated he does not. I choose to take the option of hating a guy not for leaving, but how he left. Integrity is what it is. It is not required in coaching to post wins. Just not part of the DNA for some folks. His and his staff's actions on the last day on our payroll and with UT phones contacting kids and telling them not to go to class in order to not trigger their clock is a classic display of his lack of character. His more recent coaching fake injuries simply shows it continues as a lifestyle. His buddy Coach O has shown the same characteristics. Penn State anyone? Tressel ring a bell? Baylor? How about Pruitt? Risk/reward for guys like this is what it is. Think the Mannings are all in on him, or did they just apply some class and skirt the issue? Part of the risk with him there? Could be.

Yes, all of this.

 

[Glitch]

I don’t think it’s real.

 

[Adam2014]

I want to bring up a topic of discussion.

I have read many of our rivals stating that Josh Heupel’s offense is simplistic and not sustainable.

1) Where did this rhetoric come from?
2) Is any of it true?

 

[Orange.]

I really want to go to Japan one day.

 

[Glitch]

I want to bring up a topic of discussion.

I have read many of our rivals stating that Josh Heupel’s offense is simplistic and not sustainable.

1) Where did this rhetoric come from?
2) Is any of it true?

That was them praying.

 

[TheRain]

I really want to go to Japan one day.

Going next year. I'm looking forward to it.

 

[Nash_Vol97]

I want to bring up a topic of discussion.

I have read many of our rivals stating that Josh Heupel’s offense is simplistic and not sustainable.

1) Where did this rhetoric come from?
2) Is any of it true?

I mean, it is definitely simplistic but I don’t agree with the not sustainable part. I thought Heupel did a good job of continuing to add wrinkles throughout the year last year. Honestly, if Heupel and Elarbee continue to build a solid OL and a really good running game, the sky is the limit because defenses will have to try commit that extra guy to the box and Heupel will light them up on the outside when they do. And if they don’t, the running game will just wear them down.

 

[Orange.]

I want to bring up a topic of discussion.

I have read many of our rivals stating that Josh Heupel’s offense is simplistic and not sustainable.

1) Where did this rhetoric come from?
2) Is any of it true?

1) "Sustainable" came from political and advertising cant and cliché, and "simplistic" is an example of whistling in the dark (and, technically, an irrelevancy because complexity is not a condition on success).

2) If it were true, then Sankey's boy and the guy with the goods on Sankey's boy would not have ordered Sankey to suppress a vote on a fake injuries rule for intraconference play at the Destin meeting. They obviously think they may need to cheat, which says a lot.

I do expect to see people try novel things, such a multiplicity of DBs. And I wouldn't be surprised to see someone attempt to imitate us in a set.

And, yo, bring me some good weather this week!

 

[TrippieRedd]

QB - Nico Iamaleava (Jr.)
RB - Justin Williams (Sr.)/Dylan Sampson (Sr.)
WR - Squirrel White (Sr.), Cam Seldon (Jr.), Kaleb Webb (Sr.), Boo Carter (Soph.), Chas Nimrod (Sr.), Cameron Miller (Sr.)
TE - Ethan Davis (Jr.)/Justin Echols (Soph.)
OL - Lucas Simmons (Jr.), Mo Clipper (Sr.), Addison Nichols (Sr.), Sham Umarov (Jr.), Stanton Ramil (Jr.)

DL - Tyre West (Sr.), Jordan Phillips (Sr.), Nathan Robinson (Jr.), Tyree Weathersby (Jr.)
Edge - Josh Josephs (Sr.), James Pierce (Sr.), Chandavian Bradley (Jr.), Caleb Herring (Jr.)
LB - Elijah Herring (Sr.), Jalen Smith (Jr.), Jeremiah Telander (Jr.), Edwin Spillman (Soph.)
Secondary - Andre Turrentine (Sr), Sylvester Smith (Jr.), Cristian Conyer (Jr.), John Slaughter (Jr.), Jack Luttrell (Jr.)


We winning the ship when Nico is a Junior with a lineup that looks something like this?

I know some guys could be gone, and some could be redshirted, recruited over, go elsewhere, etc.