Recruiting Forum Football Talk LVIII

[Sleegro]

I'm still blown away that Lebron pre-congratulated himself from his back from the future self.

So funny. But not really funny haha. More like sad funny.

 

[VolunteerVandiver]

Curry weighs 180 soaking wet and won back to back MVPs, one unanimous. He’s the greatest shooter in the history of the game.

Guy has worked his ass off to get to where he is. He has exactly 0 physical advantages over anyone in the league.

People severely underrate just how quick Curry is. Also, much of shooting and handle is natural. Curry clearly has elite hand-eye coordination and spatial intelligence.

 

[jakez4ut]

So funny. But not really funny haha. More like sad funny.

he makes it easy to dislike him.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

LeBron makes his living being great at everything. He can play any position, facilitate, shoot, rebound, play defense, etc. Yes, his size/athleticism combo may be GOAT, but you can't minimize his accomplishments because of it. He is still highly skilled and puts a lot of time and effort into training. Jordan was also freakishly athletic, in case you have forgotten.

Follow-up: do you minimize the greatness of Shaq because he was so massive/athletic?

I’m not saying Lebron isn’t good. But he’s not the goat.

 

[Sleegro]

LeBron makes his living being great at everything. He can play any position, facilitate, shoot, rebound, play defense, etc. Yes, his size/athleticism combo may be GOAT, but you can't minimize his accomplishments because of it. He is still highly skilled and puts a lot of time and effort into training. Jordan was also freakishly athletic, in case you have forgotten.

Follow-up: do you minimize the greatness of Shaq because he was so massive/athletic?

A little. Shaq was the most dominant player I've ever seen, but I don't consider him the best player ever.

 

[VolunteerVandiver]

He doesn't want any part of driving and getting fouled with the game on the line.

He has two buzzer beaters this post-season alone. Both of which were ridiculous shots. Who is more clutch than LeBron at the moment?

Don't say Durant? Dude passed up a game-tying 3 just last night to Klay.

 

[VolunteerVandiver]

I’m not saying Lebron isn’t good. But he’s not the goat.

Agreed; however, he is the 2nd best of all-time, and the closest anyone has been to Jordan.

 

[scvolfan7]

He doesn't want any part of driving and getting fouled with the game on the line.

He has more game winning shots than MJ in the playoffs...

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

He has two buzzer beaters this post-season alone. Both of which were ridiculous shots. Who is more clutch than LeBron at the moment?

Don't say Durant? Dude passed up a game-tying 3 just last night to Klay.

Uh... we can point to a lot of Lebrick examples where he not only missed but also where he passed it off to someone else.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Agreed; however, he is the 2nd best of all-time, and the closest anyone has been to Jordan.

Maybe. Not sure.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

He has more game winning shots than MJ in the playoffs...

How many more playoff games? Oh, and how many more losses, especially in the finals? 🤔 even with super teams that HE put together.

 

[tomq_123]

Agreed; however, he is the 2nd best of all-time, and the closest anyone has been to Jordan.

 

[jakez4ut]

can we get back to the seafood discussion or pick up that booze conversation that never got off the ground?

 

[Freak]

😡 one time I almost got there

Saw the news Catbone. My condolences to you on your loss.



Catbone update

 

[tomq_123]

saw the news catbone. My condolences to you on your loss.



catbone update

goat

 

[dwaugh]

can we get back to the seafood discussion or pick up that booze conversation that never got off the ground?

I could go for some swordfish steak or blackened salmon right now.

 

[omghulkhands]

Saw the news Catbone. My condolences to you on your loss.



Catbone update

Like he is anywhere close to 30 years old lol

 

[tomq_123]

I could go for some swordfish steak or blackened salmon right now.

Ahi, Mahi Mahi, and Halibut.

 

[scvolfan7]

How many more playoff games? Oh, and how many more losses, especially in the finals? 🤔 even with super teams that HE put together.

I don’t know how many more games but to say he doesn’t take/make clutch shots is wrong. I thought he broke the all time record for playoff and non playoff clutch shots too.

Finals loss thing is BS. The only finals series that he shouldn’t have lost was the one to the Mavs that was bad. Regardless, He has to make super teams to compete with super teams. The Spurs teams in their peak and now the Warriors are better than any team the bulls had to play. Hell the bulls were the super team of the 90s.

 

[Chief Vol 13]

Sure, Tennessee isn't loaded with talent like Bama and UGA; however, UT's biggest issue is the team culture. Pruitt has to wash the Butch Jones stink off of the program before we can return to prominence. Good news is that I think he, the new staff, and the quality players he is bringing in will have this team ahead of schedule (2019-2020 season)

Will take a good year or so to get things culture wise where they need to be IMO. One of the main reasons why I don't think this year's team will be that good. 6, maybe 7 wins. Then I expect 2019 to be a really good year.

 

[HankHill]

I’m certainly not. But Jordan is 6’6 and what? 215 pounds soak and wet. Lebron is 6’8 260-280 most likely.

I just don't get the point in punishing a player for athletic gifts. any player in any sport who is ELITE are all literal freaks. Jordan is in the same category too. He's 6'6 giant hands and wing span and can jump over a house etc.

Also, Jordans biggest strength especially early was getting to the rim and finishing. He was mostly a bad outside shooter except the two years they moved the line in. Just think of Jordan's iconic plays like 95% of them are either dunks or layups. later on he developed a deadly stepback mid range game, which is similar to how lebron has evolved and became a solid outside shooter.

But to punish Lebron because he is has gifts that some players don't have just doesn't make sense because virtually every single all time great has those gifts. Do you punish randy johnson or Nolan Ryan for being able to throw 100+? or Bo Jackson because hes from another planet. or what about Randy Moss because he runs like a cheetah and could jump out of the building.

 

[VolunteerVandiver]

Uh... we can point to a lot of Lebrick examples where he not only missed but also where he passed it off to someone else.

Here is the data, baw

 

[volunteerfan]

do the warriors switch and isolate harden to one on one like the rockets do curry no. Harden has stepped up his defense his post season. Anyone who actually watches sees that. Is he a great defender? No but curry is on another level of pathetic. The rockets whole game plan centers around getting curry switched up on someone and just going to work.

No he hasn’t. Everybody that harden is guarding dribbles right by him while he plays ole defense. To be so big and athletic, he is the worst defensive player the league has seen in a long time

 

[Rishvol]

Saw the news Catbone. My condolences to you on your loss.



Catbone update

No catbone politics in the RF

 

[HankHill]

I don’t know how many more games but to say he doesn’t take/make clutch shots is wrong. I thought he broke the all time record for playoff and non playoff clutch shots too.

Finals loss thing is BS. The only finals series that he shouldn’t have lost was the one to the Mavs that was bad. Regardless, He has to make super teams to compete with super teams. The Spurs teams in their peak and now the Warriors are better than any team the bulls had to play. Hell the bulls were the super team of the 90s.

People forget how good Ron Harper was before he came to Chicago. He was a Long great defending guard who basically averaged like 20/5/5 for most of his career prior to Chicago.