Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

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#36,560
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drvenner said:
What do you like about him?
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Here is my best shot at being completely objective on JG solely as a QB because everyone thinks i just hate the kid which is far from the truth. I just expect a lot from QBs. My father played QB at an ACC school and my Brother played in the Mountain West and is currently a scout for the 49ers. So i lean on them for my QB opinions a lot, with that being said....

👍🏻:
- Toughness
- quick burst as a runner
- Plus accuracy 10 yards inside the numbers
- Solid Arm Strength
- decent touch on balls (major improvement from last year)
-timing passer, more comfortable under center within drops

👎🏻: things i don’t like or he needs to improve:
- Flick thrower with a laggy release. (Ive said this before but particularly when he throws downfield he flicks the ball instead of driving it which leads to balls sailing or hanging up in the air too long...watch a guy like baker mayfield whos release is lightning quick and you’ll know what i mean by laggy)
- heavy feet in the pocket (doesn’t move much within it to extend plays or evade rushers)
- less accurate when throwing outside of the numbers particularly on deep outs.
- doesn’t run enough, athletic enough to pick up 5-10 yards several times of the course of the game but likes to wait inside the pocket.
- after a drop or when first read is covered he struggles with “adlibing” which goes back to extending plays.

These are just things off the top of my head that I’ve charted and noticed through out the year. For instance (and this is to blame on Helton too... )in the first half vs SC he didn’t complete a pass over 6 air yards pass the LOS. Missed on throws of 29, 19, 8, and 16. He had 11 completions less than 3 yards...his TD to Wolfe was 9yds traveled.... the reason i believe he’s in there is Bc Pruitt wants to run a run/screen heavy offense, with vertical concepts off that (similar to what The Jets run) but we’re not hitting on the vertical part so South Carolina picked up on that and mostly squatted underneath and took that away and we couldn’t do anything.
 
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OGbabyaviVol said:
I am not saying that it is just Tennessee, but I fully believe the refs are told to favor certain teams at certain times for certain reasons. Take the Kentucky versus Missouri game on Saturday for example… If that is defensive pass interference on Missouri, then there is no way that that is not offensive pass interference against Kentucky. I do not gamble, but I would be willing to bet that Georgia gets favored with calls on Saturday against Kentucky, because the SEC knows that a Georgia versus Alabama championship game will bring in a lot more money than Alabama versus Kentucky. Also, if Kentucky loses, the refs will most likely favor us in the game next Saturday, because It will give us a much better chance to make it to a bowl by winning that game, thus bringing more money into the SEC. You can be naïve or not, but it is as clear as daylight that favoritism occurs in certain games.
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I always wonder why people have such a hard time believing this. Money runs everything that is sports related. It’s why Houston had no chance against the Red Sox in the American League championship series. An article a month ago was written by ESPN stating that America deserves better than an Astros Dodgers rematch. The same can be said for any sport. Ratings move the needle when it comes to officiating and money rules the world.
 
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HankHill said:
Here is my best shot at being completely objective on JG solely as a QB because everyone thinks i just hate the kid which is far from the truth. I just expect a lot from QBs. My father played QB at an ACC school and my Brother played in the Mountain West and is currently a scout for the 49ers. So i lean on them for my QB opinions a lot, with that being said....

👍🏻:
- Toughness
- quick burst as a runner
- Plus accuracy 10 yards inside the numbers
- Solid Arm Strength
- decent touch on balls (major improvement from last year)
-timing passer, more comfortable under center within drops

👎🏻: things i don’t like or he needs to improve:
- Flick thrower with a laggy release. (Ive said this before but particularly when he throws downfield he flicks the ball instead of driving it which leads to balls sailing or hanging up in the air too long...watch a guy like baker mayfield whos release is lightning quick and you’ll know what i mean by laggy)
- heavy feet in the pocket (doesn’t move much within it to extend plays or evade rushers)
- less accurate when throwing outside of the numbers particularly on deep outs.
- doesn’t run enough, athletic enough to pick up 5-10 yards several times of the course of the game but likes to wait inside the pocket.
- after a drop or when first read is covered he struggles with “adlibing” which goes back to extending plays.

These are just things off the top of my head that I’ve charted and noticed through out the year. For instance (and this is to blame on Helton too... )in the first half vs SC he didn’t complete a pass over 6 air yards pass the LOS. Missed on throws of 29, 19, 8, and 16. He had 11 completions less than 3 yards...his TD to Wolfe was 9yds traveled.... the reason i believe he’s in there is Bc Pruitt wants to run a run/screen heavy offense, with vertical concepts off that (similar to what The Jets run) but we’re not hitting on the vertical part so South Carolina picked up on that and mostly squatted underneath and took that away and we couldn’t do anything.
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Thanks for that. It did appear you just totally disliked everything about him. Which made others want to defend his good qualities. Which led to constant debate.
 
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Smokey123 said:
For anyone that cares, JG has started 14 games in his career. Here’s his total stats: 289 Attempts, 186 Completions, 64%, 2,282 Yards, 7.8 YA, 12 YC, 11 TD’s, 4 INT’s. Averaging a TD every 26 attempts, an INT every 72 attempts.
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Also for anyone who cares, Tennessee is 3-11 in those games he shredded the D’s
 
#36,567
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OGbabyaviVol said:
I am not saying that it is just Tennessee, but I fully believe the refs are told to favor certain teams at certain times for certain reasons. Take the Kentucky versus Missouri game on Saturday for example… If that is defensive pass interference on Missouri, then there is no way that that is not offensive pass interference against Kentucky. I do not gamble, but I would be willing to bet that Georgia gets favored with calls on Saturday against Kentucky, because the SEC knows that a Georgia versus Alabama championship game will bring in a lot more money than Alabama versus Kentucky. Also, if Kentucky loses, the refs will most likely favor us in the game next Saturday, because It will give us a much better chance to make it to a bowl by winning that game, thus bringing more money into the SEC. You can be naïve or not, but it is as clear as daylight that favoritism occurs in certain games.
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This is the way I see it. Think it's not just the SEC either. Conferences want to get a team in the playoffs and as many as possible in bowl games.
 
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HankHill said:
Here is my best shot at being completely objective on JG solely as a QB because everyone thinks i just hate the kid which is far from the truth. I just expect a lot from QBs. My father played QB at an ACC school and my Brother played in the Mountain West and is currently a scout for the 49ers. So i lean on them for my QB opinions a lot, with that being said....

👍🏻:
- Toughness
- quick burst as a runner
- Plus accuracy 10 yards inside the numbers
- Solid Arm Strength
- decent touch on balls (major improvement from last year)
-timing passer, more comfortable under center within drops

👎🏻: things i don’t like or he needs to improve:
- Flick thrower with a laggy release. (Ive said this before but particularly when he throws downfield he flicks the ball instead of driving it which leads to balls sailing or hanging up in the air too long...watch a guy like baker mayfield whos release is lightning quick and you’ll know what i mean by laggy)
- heavy feet in the pocket (doesn’t move much within it to extend plays or evade rushers)
- less accurate when throwing outside of the numbers particularly on deep outs.
- doesn’t run enough, athletic enough to pick up 5-10 yards several times of the course of the game but likes to wait inside the pocket.
- after a drop or when first read is covered he struggles with “adlibing” which goes back to extending plays.

These are just things off the top of my head that I’ve charted and noticed through out the year. For instance (and this is to blame on Helton too... )in the first half vs SC he didn’t complete a pass over 6 air yards pass the LOS. Missed on throws of 29, 19, 8, and 16. He had 11 completions less than 3 yards...his TD to Wolfe was 9yds traveled.... the reason i believe he’s in there is Bc Pruitt wants to run a run/screen heavy offense, with vertical concepts off that (similar to what The Jets run) but we’re not hitting on the vertical part so South Carolina picked up on that and mostly squatted underneath and took that away and we couldn’t do anything.
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This is a fair post.
 
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