Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

[Crazy Ivan]

Expect @drvenner to make you prove it haha. That guy is so full of himself lol.

I have no issue with drvenner. I agree that CJP is not the type to put up with demands, but at the same time, I believe he understands what the situation is and what it could be next season.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Price guesses that 12-15 players leave after this season

 

[T Dog]

Price guesses that 12-15 players leave after this season

It's like a wound that ain't healing properly. Got to get that infection out. Imo

 

[Vfl2407]

@BruinVol Do you think the Browns go after Schiano? If I recall correctly you love you some Schiano...I am still not sure why Ohio St. didn't make him interim head coach when Urban was suspended for not reporting the wife beater.

Schiano is great with shower discipline.

 

[engineerVOL]

It's like a wound that ain't healing properly. Got to get that infection out. Imo

To be fair, some of these guys may not be cancerous, but just not good enough.

 

[T Dog]

To be fair, some of these guys may not be cancerous, but just not good enough.

Well knowing that they are not going to play for reasons, I am sure they are not a joy to be around.

 

[Darth_Shiveman]

Austin Price alluded to McBride being a candidate to look elsewhere after the year (because he apparently didn't make the trip to Columbia)..

Also said Shrout still needs to grow in the offense (duh) and Maurer is lighting up the scoreboard against middle-tier competition in HS. There's still some possibility we chase the QB transfer market, but don't look so hard at Jalen Hurts.

Just paraphrasing from the Sunday show he does with Troy and Swain

Sounds about right. Landing the right GT at QB could be big for us. I'm not sure Hurts is the guy we want for this system, though, unless they really want to incorporate the QB into the ground game.

 

[drvenner]

You're wrong in my opinion. Under normal circumstances I would agree. Not with where we are at just starting a rebuild. We'll just have to agree to disagree on this one. But it really doesn't matter now anyway haha.

I think you're selling our coach short, but I agree to disagree with you.

 

[Smokeytom]

What does 12-15 leaving allow us to do with recruiting/the roster?

 

[Darth_Shiveman]

Price guesses that 12-15 players leave after this season

Is that counting guys who may leave early and chance the draft or just transfers?

 

[Smokey123]

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Is that counting guys who may leave early and chance the draft or just transfers?

I think the latter but not sure

 

[drvenner]

Here is my best shot at being completely objective on JG solely as a QB because everyone thinks i just hate the kid which is far from the truth. I just expect a lot from QBs. My father played QB at an ACC school and my Brother played in the Mountain West and is currently a scout for the 49ers. So i lean on them for my QB opinions a lot, with that being said....

:
- Toughness
- quick burst as a runner
- Plus accuracy 10 yards inside the numbers
- Solid Arm Strength
- decent touch on balls (major improvement from last year)
-timing passer, more comfortable under center within drops

: things i don’t like or he needs to improve:
- Flick thrower with a laggy release. (Ive said this before but particularly when he throws downfield he flicks the ball instead of driving it which leads to balls sailing or hanging up in the air too long...watch a guy like baker mayfield whos release is lightning quick and you’ll know what i mean by laggy)
- heavy feet in the pocket (doesn’t move much within it to extend plays or evade rushers)
- less accurate when throwing outside of the numbers particularly on deep outs.
- doesn’t run enough, athletic enough to pick up 5-10 yards several times of the course of the game but likes to wait inside the pocket.
- after a drop or when first read is covered he struggles with “adlibing” which goes back to extending plays.

These are just things off the top of my head that I’ve charted and noticed through out the year. For instance (and this is to blame on Helton too... )in the first half vs SC he didn’t complete a pass over 6 air yards pass the LOS. Missed on throws of 29, 19, 8, and 16. He had 11 completions less than 3 yards...his TD to Wolfe was 9yds traveled.... the reason i believe he’s in there is Bc Pruitt wants to run a run/screen heavy offense, with vertical concepts off that (similar to what The Jets run) but we’re not hitting on the vertical part so South Carolina picked up on that and mostly squatted underneath and took that away and we couldn’t do anything.

I think you've tried to look at it objectively to some degree. You were all in on KC in the Spring. I agree he needs to run more and he does not seem to like to scramble. He has no internal clock. I think he is still improving and will continue to do so. I do appreciate you answering honestly. I think you have tried really hard to look at this one fairly. That's something most of us don't do.

 

[Catbone]

No joke! I've Catboned this M'fer about 3 times today.

 

[volfanCLT]

Jason Croom MY LAWD

Edit: jk I has the sad

 

[volatil]

Croom !!!!!


Never mind. Only catches like that count in South Carolina

 

[HankHill]

Jason Croom almost just made the catch of the year...began to get a little chilly in hell there for a minute.

 

[BigOrangeVols]

WOW. Jason Croom!!

 

[drvenner]

Expect @drvenner to make you prove it haha. That guy is so full of himself lol.

I can be full of myself, at times. I don't have a problem with you. I called you out because you made a bold statement. You seem like you're a pretty good dude, so I will just say I hope we finish 8-5 and WTFA for the rest of they year. GBO!!

 

[BigOrangeVols]

Whoops lol

 

[BigOrangeVols]

Croom !!!!!


Never mind. Only catches like that count in South Carolina

And that ref had a much better angle than that call.

 

[Darth_Shiveman]

I think the latter but not sure

TBH, I worry more about some of the guys we may really need next year who might decide to try things out in the draft more than I do all the guys form the 2016 and 2017 classes who will never see the field anyway.

 

[Ron Swanson]

Jalen Hurts a possible grad transfer next year?

You never know.

- Hubbs

Hubbanese for Vol?

 

[Ron Swanson]

Is that counting guys who may leave early and chance the draft or just transfers?

I think what it means is they’re going to bring in 25 new guys and will make room no matter what.

 

[Cosmo Kramer]

Yep. I would expect double digit transfers before next football season. Thats a good thing.