Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

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govols24 said:
If we weren’t hiring Freeze, Pruitt wouldn’t let Lindsey go to Kansas.
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I think the info that Freeze was on campus and met with Eric Gray is legit. I'm not sure how it works from a compliance standpoint, but I think it happened. You wouldn't do that unless you were sure he was the guy. EG has been super quiet about his time on campus this weekend, and I think that's why. The delay, in my mind, has been to create an effective action plan, which includes PR. Most teams wouldn't get hammered for this hire, but the fact that UT moved away from Schiano after the fans revolted places UT in the crosshairs of anyone willing to shout "hypocrite." Whether you want to admit it or not, there's much more direct evidence of Hugh's wrongdoing than the circumstantial, third-hand reports about Schiano's knowledge of the actions of Sandusky. Rick Pitino's alleged conduct is very similar to Hugh's, and you don't see him with any job (with a much stronger resume than a coach like Freeze.) Combine that with the previous Title IX issues at UT, and you've got yourself a PR situation that needs plenty of preparation, including reaching out to tastemakers and journos that can come over top of the negative criticisms of others.
 
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hotcypress said:
I think the info that Freeze was on campus and met with Eric Gray is legit. I'm not sure how it works from a compliance standpoint, but I think it happened. You wouldn't do that unless you were sure he was the guy. EG has been super quiet about his time on campus this weekend, and I think that's why. The delay, in my mind, has been to create an effective action plan, which includes PR. Most teams wouldn't get hammered for this hire, but the fact that UT moved away from Schiano after the fans revolted places UT in the crosshairs of anyone willing to shout "hypocrite." Whether you want to admit it or not, there's much more direct evidence of Hugh's wrongdoing than the circumstantial, third-hand reports about Schiano's knowledge of the actions of Sandusky. Rick Pitino's alleged conduct is very similar to Hugh's, and you don't see him with any job (with a much stronger resume than a coach like Freeze.) Combine that with the previous Title IX issues at UT, and you've got yourself a PR situation that needs plenty of preparation, including reaching out to tastemakers and journos that can come over top of the negative criticisms of others.
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I say f***'m all... Bring on Mr. Freeze...
 
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hotcypress said:
I think the info that Freeze was on campus and met with Eric Gray is legit. I'm not sure how it works from a compliance standpoint, but I think it happened. You wouldn't do that unless you were sure he was the guy. EG has been super quiet about his time on campus this weekend, and I think that's why. The delay, in my mind, has been to create an effective action plan, which includes PR. Most teams wouldn't get hammered for this hire, but the fact that UT moved away from Schiano after the fans revolted places UT in the crosshairs of anyone willing to shout "hypocrite." Whether you want to admit it or not, there's much more direct evidence of Hugh's wrongdoing than the circumstantial, third-hand reports about Schiano's knowledge of the actions of Sandusky. Rick Pitino's alleged conduct is very similar to Hugh's, and you don't see him with any job (with a much stronger resume than a coach like Freeze.) Combine that with the previous Title IX issues at UT, and you've got yourself a PR situation that needs plenty of preparation, including reaching out to tastemakers and journos that can come over top of the negative criticisms of others.
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While I understand your general premise, the FBI investigation finally took Pitino. He survived an abortion scandal and recruiting violations, but he couldn't survive his 3rd strike. Plus, as has been discussed, there was no evidence that Freeze used prostitutes for recruiting. It was a personal failure.
 
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Guys, let’s use some common sense. Brent talking about Lindsey to KANSAS and the idea that Tucker May be trying to get Enos to COLORADO shouls confirm we have our guy. Freeze is locked up in order for Kansas and CO to be in a “fight” with us over OCs.

Or we hired Dorkwitz and will suck for the next 25 years.
 
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revjayp said:
Guys, let’s use some common sense. Reports of Lindsey to KANSAS and the idea that Tucker May be trying to get Enos to COLORADO shouls confirm we have our guy. Freeze is locked up in order for Kansas and CO to be in a “fight” with us over OCs.

Or we hired Dorkwitz and will suck for the next 25 years.
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That last sentence 😬
 
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Nashvegas31 said:
That makes sense. I just think the "perceived" NCAA cloud may be what makes them more hesitant as a HC hire until it's pretty far removed.

Interesting the Lowe said Freeze didn't get in trouble for NCAA shadiness himself. In the report it's actually that he overall formed a program of compliance but that he failed in controlling members of his staff and boosters. That statement helps him and it is another reason I feel like the PR machine ATL mentioned is we are working with guys like Lowe to have the info they need for articles to help
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That's all good and great but what happens when one of the weasels involved start telling their stories? There's always someone who wants the attention after the fact. I could see it happening if Freeze get the chance to start his career again. Just look at the turd that Ohio State fired. He's still trying to bring other coaches down.
 
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revjayp said:
Guys, let’s use some common sense. Brent talking about Lindsey to KANSAS and the idea that Tucker May be trying to get Enos to COLORADO shouls confirm we have our guy. Freeze is locked up in order for Kansas and CO to be in a “fight” with us over OCs.

Or we hired Dorkwitz and will suck for the next 25 years.
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You had to finish with a hook for Bass's BVS.

I gotta go play basketball.
 
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hotcypress said:
I think the info that Freeze was on campus and met with Eric Gray is legit. I'm not sure how it works from a compliance standpoint, but I think it happened. You wouldn't do that unless you were sure he was the guy. EG has been super quiet about his time on campus this weekend, and I think that's why. The delay, in my mind, has been to create an effective action plan, which includes PR. Most teams wouldn't get hammered for this hire, but the fact that UT moved away from Schiano after the fans revolted places UT in the crosshairs of anyone willing to shout "hypocrite." Whether you want to admit it or not, there's much more direct evidence of Hugh's wrongdoing than the circumstantial, third-hand reports about Schiano's knowledge of the actions of Sandusky. Rick Pitino's alleged conduct is very similar to Hugh's, and you don't see him with any job (with a much stronger resume than a coach like Freeze.) Combine that with the previous Title IX issues at UT, and you've got yourself a PR situation that needs plenty of preparation, including reaching out to tastemakers and journos that can come over top of the negative criticisms of others.
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schiano's penchant for coaching players to dive at peoples knees, his 500 record at Rutgers, and subsequent lack of head coaching offers from any, much less UT level programs are facts u left out that do not fit your narrative
 
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