Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Dang I hope some of these visitors commit this weekend. We need some good news.

 

[Orange Studs]

I broke a few things. Im done

You never got started to be done with anything.

 

[drvenner]

They hit hip to hip. It's pretty clear it was a foul. It simply was. Lamonte made a great effort play and just went an inch too far. That's basketball. An excruciating game of inches. But if we shoot over 50% FTs we're never in that spot. We lost to a really good team on a night 1 guy went insane. That's what stinks about 1-loss tournaments. No shame there. Love those guys.

Quit it.

 

[drvenner]

We'll just have to disagree here. If you didn't see body to body on any of the angles I don't know what to say.

Good. Then, don't say anything.

 

[drvenner]

As a Ref, you can't dictate the game at that point. With under two seconds, there better be absolutely zero question whether its a foul or not.

Let's not forget the blatant push-off to get open in the first place.

 

[Orange Studs]

WOW that brought tears to my eyes. Love coach Barnes and he loved these guys. That hit me hard when he said that this team will never play together again and then started crying. whewww man

 

[Smokeytom]

Needed to finish it in regulation. Thought we had it. Of course, the refs had to play a part in those final 3 seconds. if he doesn’t kick out his leg then I don’t think Turner touches him. Frustrating way for the year to end.

 

[SSVol]

I'm a little fuzzy on the rules of shooting contact, but is it still considered a penalty if the contact occurred after the shot is off?

 

[Big Gucci Sosa]

Feel much better this morning

 

[InVOLuntary]

After a night's sleep and additional time to ponder and reflect about the end of regulation in the basketball game last night, I have awakened refreshed and invigorated. And, when I say invigorated, I am even more infuriated by the heinous incompetence of the officiating crew. I realize that had we played better in the first half or had we hit a couple more free throws, we win the game. Those facts do not in any way forgive the blatant wrongness of the last 2.5 seconds of the game. There were five instances where if the referees had ruled the other way (and all are debatable at least, and one is criminal). It seems to me that the ball was off Edwards after the block. That one is debatable. It also appears that it may have taken longer than 5 seconds to inbound the ball. Then, there is the blatant push off by Edwards to get open. I realize that happens a lot, but this one was very obvious. Then, there is the fact that it appeared at least one of his heels may have touched out of bounds prior to him launching the shot and then there is the "foul." Of all of these, that one is the biggest joke. I realize that Coach Barnes said it was definitely a foul. That does not excuse the fact that it absolutely should not have been called and likely has not been called in a similar situation in other games this year. If you swallow your whistle on the push off, then you HAVE TO SWALLOW IT on the shot. He does kick his leg out and the very limited contact made (which Edwards likely initiated) did nothing to change the shot. Why, for the love of all that is holy, does this kind of crap happen to Tennessee basketball over and over? I absolutely hate it for our players.

Yes, the officials handed Purdue that game. 100%. Should we have played better in the first half? Absolutely! Should we have hit more of our free throws? Absolutely! But, when the game was on the line the official stepped in and decided it. It was a bogus call and the official should never be allowed to call another tournament game. I hope it haunts him for a long time.

 

[Chuckie]

I'm a little fuzzy on the rules of shooting contact, but is it still considered a penalty if the contact occurred after the shot is off?

I'm not sure about that, but when I watch it what stands out to me is that if the Purdue player hadn't unnaturally kicked his right leg forward, Turner wouldn't have made contact with him. To me, that's pretty strong reasoning that it shouldn't be a foul, especially at that point in a game.

 

[Devo182]

Do we take a step back next year or can we start to sustain success in basketball?

Don't see us sustaining our school record matching 31 wins, but I'm not sure how big of a step back either. All depends on Grant, Bone, Burns, other big men.

 

[Aesius]

Yes, the officials handed Purdue that game. 100%. Should we have played better in the first half? Absolutely! Should we have hit more of our free throws? Absolutely! But, when the game was on the line the official stepped in and decided it. It was a bogus call and the official should never be allowed to call another tournament game. I hope it haunts him for a long time.

He probably got a raise.

 

[samanderson]

One flies, we all fly.

One misses his foul shots, we all miss our foul shots.

Damn.

 

[Chuckie]

I know people have their opinions about Basilio, but his post game shows are quite cathartic, especially after a loss. One of his "contributors" analyzes the trends with certain officials. The official that called the foul on Turner at the end worked 6 of our games this year, and we were 3-3 in those games. In the first half last night, I think he said there were 8 fouls called against us...that guy called 6 of them. I try to resist the urge to be a tin-foil hat guy, but those types of things definitely make me go, "Hmmmm"

 

[vol4eva]

Should have decked Cline IMO

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

It's been a long time since anything to do with sports has made me weep...
That was hard to watch..

 

[Rishvol]

Should have decked Cline IMO

How he survived the second half with 4 fouls I'll never know

 

[OGbabyaviVol]

How he survived the second half with 4 fouls I'll never know

Can’t foul out their best shooter!

 

[Devo182]

Should have decked Cline IMO

Last 3 was nasty, but man ya gotta make him drive there. Couldn't believe we gave em space for a stepback. I thought if he missed that one we'd wrap it up for sure. Unreal luck his one career game was that one. Watch Purdue go 0 for 18 the next game.

 

[drvenner]

Yes, the officials handed Purdue that game. 100%. Should we have played better in the first half? Absolutely! Should we have hit more of our free throws? Absolutely! But, when the game was on the line the official stepped in and decided it. It was a bogus call and the official should never be allowed to call another tournament game. I hope it haunts him for a long time.

What is sad is that he will be allowed to call it and probably thinks he was right to do it. Utter BS.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

They remind me of the SugarVols despite the loss. They'll go down as one of the most beloved teams we've ever had, imo. I just wanted it to be them that broke into the FInal Four first.

Great analogy.

 

[Devo182]

It's been a long time since anything to do with sports has made me weep...
That was hard to watch..

You see that Vandy game last year?

 

[VolGee4]

I'm a little fuzzy on the rules of shooting contact, but is it still considered a penalty if the contact occurred after the shot is off?

Yea, you have to give the shooter some space to land. But guys like to “kick out” these days to create contact. The NBA actually implemented a rule that it’s a foul on the shooter if they do it. But the call last night was weak. Just don’t make it in that scenario. Season defining call.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

We'll just have to disagree here. If you didn't see body to body on any of the angles I don't know what to say.

You're wrong..that is a BS call that never gets called against bluebloods...never. That makes it a BS call, plus dude was OB to start with, plus he initiated the contact..

That was a horrid horrid horrid bad call...