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Jimmy Football said:
How involved was Squiggy?
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Big Orange#1 said:
Like someone else said, That’s something the goat MJ would do. He got disrespected and used it as fuel if an opponent didn’t stop by and say hi to him when they were in the same restaurant lol. Much less if someone was talking down on you on social media. MJ in the social media age would have been interesting.
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I think you have to be careful because we all love competitors but there's a fine line between someone being viewed as fierce on the field and a jerk off of it. What made MJ a mega star wasn't his game (it was great) but his image and that was specifically as Mr. Apple Pie All American. No one would "Want to be like Mike" or for their kids to be "like Mike" if Mike's public image wasn't as refined as it was. And I don't know if MJ being MJ could've maintained that image in the social media age.

Teams/franchises had so much more power over the narrative back then as long as an athlete, politician, or performer stayed out of serious criminal trouble (and sometimes even if they didn't) interested companies and parties that had a lot riding on those images could keep the faces of their franchises squeaky clean.

You can't do that today. If someone goes out and acts like an ass in public (and sometimes even in private) we hear about it. There's often video of it and it doesn't go away whenever that day's newspaper is thrown out.

You want Hooker coming out of the pile mad as hell during the Florida game and firing his team up. That's great television and it's competition at its finest but you don't want him to get a rep as the guy that goes after random folks online or takes every little slight too seriously. That can turn on us and him.

To be clear, I don't think that's happening at all but it's an example of how things can turn. Hendon's a celebrity now and he's got to walk a finer line than he used to walk or he can easily fall into a trap. People are going to come after him and he's going to have to be able to let the little things go. It's part of the price of fame. To be fair though, I don't think it will be a problem for him. Everything he's done here has been competitiveness on the field and total class of the field.
 
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BelieveTheHeup93 said:
Some guys play better in a game environment than practice. See Hendon Hooker and Josh Dobbs over Joe Milton and Justin Worley
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How did those QBs get their opportunity? It was due to injuries or the players in front of them being completely ineffective. We don't get to see what guys do in practice, or if they're putting extra time in after practice. We don't get to hear stories of others that didn't get to play much until they put in the extra work though. Why do you think Squirrel has gotten more PT than those other guys?
 
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SSVol said:
Didn't Kiffin call the plays while Chaney sat in the booth? Guy in the booth watches the defense?
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I have no idea but I sure could understand it if Kiffin did. I have no clue about any of this but it was a really good discussion point that Volbeast brought up. To volbeast just to make sure, I enjoyed the talk and I wasn't trying to disagree with you for the heck of it I. Just my thoughts on the subject and they could be absolutely all wrong.
 
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bigl3327 said:
How did those QBs get their opportunity? It was due to injuries or the players in front of them being completely ineffective. We don't get to see what guys do in practice, or if they're putting extra time in after practice. We don't get to hear stories of others that didn't get to play much until they put in the extra work though. Why do you think Squirrel has gotten more PT than those other guys?
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Because he has world class speed
 
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bigl3327 said:
So does Hyatt, but he had to put in the work and earn it.
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I agree, but the staff praised Jimmy Holiday’s work this off-season, and all he has to show for it is mop up duty and getting to fair catch kickoffs outside of the end zone. The simple fact is WRs don’t get many opportunities in this offense unless they’re starting because we don’t like to sub mid drive. It’s so bad that we’ve had Jalin Hyatt lined up at TE at times this year on short yardage plays. Both Jimmy Holiday and Walker Merrill have done nothing but make big plays when given opportunities this season though, and they’re still not given meaningful in game reps
 
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Cosmo Kramer said:
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There's something about horse racing that's truly unique I think. The track doesn't change. The horses aren't getting faster. The jockeys aren't heavier. The bar has always been the same. The only change has been keeping ahead of PEDs.

Other sports, well its hard to compare a great by today's athletes. Babe Ruth wasn't likely hitting off 100mph fastballs. Bats have changed. Humans have gotten faster, taller, and bigger. Modern sports training and nutrition has helped with that. Tracks and distance stays the same, the shoes and suits have changed. Swimmers have toyed with different hydrodynamic bodysuits.

The marathon is the same, but the route always changes. Nevertheless, humans are still getting better at it.

Jim Brown and Derrick Henry will have always played in different eras with different equipment. Even different rules. Different season lengths. Then the endless MJ vs LeBron vs Kobe debate.

But in horse racing - its still just Secretariat. The same three tracks. They haven't changed. In the thousands, nay (pun), tens of thousands of horses that have run on these tracks (different divisions) none have sprung a good rep in perfect conditions to beat these times. And in 100 years only 13 total horses have won all three in a single year. I think its the only sport you can truly judge today's athlete to yesterday's.
 
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SpringBokVol said:
I thought it was a great hire at the time. I thought Fulmer saved the day and we lucked out.

I was meh about Heupel and thrilled when we hired Kiffin.

Ha ha. How wrong could I be.
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I’m probably on a lot of ignore lists due to my feelings about Butch and Pruitt, but Pruitt I was out on from day one.

Like most everyone else I was very meh on Heupel but thought that he was at least likeable and I enjoyed watching him play QB at OU. Otherwise I thought it would be three years and a cloud of buyout.
 
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