Recruiting Forum Football Talk VI

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SoilVol said:
This whole ordeal is a nightmare (or should be) for Georgia. Not just the tragedy and loss of life, but serious organizational failings that led to this.

The SUV was a football team vehicle, not a personal vehicle. The staffer was supposed to be a responsible member of the team escorting players home. She was driving 104+ MPH and intoxicated (2x legal limit). Racing Carter, as evidenced by cameras in town, and Carter gave conflicting reports at the scene (he initially left the scene then returned saying he heard it from a distance).

If she was intoxicated leaving their championship celebration, that means Georgia provided the alcohol to the team and staff at the event. Then allowed intoxicated athletes and staff to drive university vehicles and personal vehicles home. They enabled this situation.
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Yikes all around for Georgia.
 
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volbeast33 said:
It’s so silly that we allow family members to sue someone else when the people responsible are the ones that died…. They chose to drive drunk and race.
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Georgia is a comparative fault state. A jury would apportion the amount of fault responsible to any of the parties or applicable non-parties and the damage award would be reduced accordingly. Also, if a plaintiff is 50% or more at fault, then they can’t recover anything. So it’s not like it’s some free for all where the law allows a totally random person to get a pile of money without context. Whether it settles well before getting to a jury is another issue altogether.
 
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It is pretty wild...NCAA did next to nothing even when the FBI had Will Wade on tape talking about paying players. Auburn had an assistant get arrested and what has the NCAA done there? Alabama has 3 players involved with murder and only the one guy who never plays was dismissed. Georgia has this situation going on.

Yet here we are getting taken to task for a previous staff (all of which were terminated) doing what has been done and continues to be done by every one of the other big schools in conference.

I don't mind that we decided to take the high road, you can't tell your employees that things are going to be different and then continue to do what all the previous admins/ADs did. But the way the NCAA operates screams of corruption.
 
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Weezer said:
So what do they charge him with? Is it vehicular homicide if both were willingly racing? Do the other occupants of the crashed car, the ones that survived (including another Georgia OL), do they get charged as well? I'm not against charges, I'm just not sure what they are. This case seems murkier than what happened in Bama, and we see what happened there.

The seriousness of what he's charged with will determine just how bad his draft status is hurt. I also wonder if this will ultimately be plead out?
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At the bare minimum he will get charged with misdemeanors for reckless driving and racing.
 
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LA Vol said:
Yes. They nailed UT with a failure to monitor, which UT has disputed, and negotiating that away will require concessions. The NCAA wants more than UT has self-imposed.
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Meanwhile, these teams who have done far worse? crickets? Why work with them at all?
 
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butchna said:
I think anybody who actually believes it wouldn’t have been MUCH more severe if we hadn’t complied, hasn’t been paying attention. What they didn’t find would have been mitigated by what they amplified on their own.
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I don’t believe it would have been more severe…. I have seen program after program snub their nose at the NCAA and get nothing more than a slap on the wrist…. No way to prove it one way or the other now though…
 
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VolGee4 said:
The female driver who also died had a .197 BAC. So, your last statement is not quite correct.

The Little case and this case are certainly distinguishable, especially involving legal issues.
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It would mitigate things some, especially in civil court where responsibility can be reduced and divided up, but the deaths resulted from speed. Alcohol was a factor for the driver but that doesn't erase his responsibility in criminal court. It helps some but he still engaged in a criminal act that resulted in the deaths of 2 people.
 
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mr.checkerboards said:
Wow, I'm just now seeing the Roger news. So heartbreaking. I'll admit his stuttering was aggravating at times, but you could never doubt Rogers love for the Vols. A life gone too soon.
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I feel horrible for saying this, but I always turned the radio off when Roger called in. It was nothing against him personally, and I had deep sympathy for his stuttering, but my brain just couldn't handle it. It drove my OCD mad.

But prayers for Roger and his family. He was definitely a VFL.
 
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