Recruiting Forum Football Talk VI

[Orange Studs]

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Thank Possum. I will slowly get back in here one toe at a time. lol

 

[VolGee4]

Something changed from the ‘AAs point-of-view between the time Heupel was hired and when the NOA was handed down. I wish I knew what it was.

We started winning?

 

[Cosmo Kramer]

Alabama and Ohio state wouldn’t have dug up all their own dirt.

Tons of Alabamas own dirt is dug up every day when Trailer Homes are moved

 

[peaygolf]

Tons of Alabamas own dirt is dug up every day when Trailer Homes are moved

 

[Jimmy Football]

I’ll tell you what it was…Saban and Kirby realize we are a threat to them with Danny and Heupel running this ship, so they probably called their ole buddies and told them we needed even harsher sanctions to cripple us more than we were initially.

We started winning?

Maybe, but the attitude change appears to have occurred before we had our breakout season last year.

If I had to guess (and this is nothing but a guess), I would say that the Nico deal becoming public might have upset some higher-ups at the NCAA. Or maybe just our approach to NIL in general.

I wouldn’t put it past that corrupt organization to try backdoor some penalties for our NIL dealings through the resolution to the Pruitt case.

Again, though: pure speculation.

 

[ConwayFitty]

Well, that was part of the “new pradigm” of enforcement that our case was supposed to be the pilot program for. But at some point along the way, that pilot was cancelled and the NCAA decided to air re-runs of their old enforcement methods instead.

This hasn't even hit the point where the NCAA get reamed by lawsuits from players and agents when this interferes with their ability to get income for something they weren't party too. That's where the real repercussions from this will fall out if there are post season bans or something similar.

 

[engineerVOL]

Checking in to let everyone know I am fine just needed a break from the board. As many that have been on here as long and even longer than me it can wear on you after a while with all the negas and trolls. Also, my wife had her 5th back surgery in Feb. and sje is doing great after a year of battling workers comp. They denied it so we had to use regular insurance but she is doing great and we both plan on being at the O&W game.

You were gone?? Jk

Sorry for the insurance rigmarole. It’s all @utvols88’s fault after all. Anywho welcome back. Agree on this place, we all need a VN sabbatical from time to time.

 

[Jimmy Football]

This haven't even hit the point where the NCAA get reamed by lawsuits from players and agents when this interferes with their ability to get income for something they weren't party too. That's where the real repercussions from this will fall out if there are post season bans or something similar.

To clarify, I don’t think a post-season ban is on the table.

 

[GoBigOrange86]

Austin Price says he expects Tennessee will sue the NCAA if the resolution isn't favorable and that the SEC will support the lawsuit.

 

[ConwayFitty]

To clarify, I don’t think a post-season ban is on the table.

I don't either and don't think they will be an option going forward for the NCAA anymore because of NIL and the potential to impact player's income. I would expect to see more impacts toward scholarship reduction, fines, or reduced recruiting contact periods. The good news is that our "independent-from-the school" NIL gang can still reach out even if the coaches can't.

 

[SpringBokVol]

Austin Price says he expects Tennessee will sue the NCAA if the resolution isn't favorable and that the SEC will support the lawsuit.

Can't like this enough. That is a change of strategy for UT brass.

 

[Rocky_Top_Vol13]

Something changed from the ‘AAs point-of-view between the time Heupel was hired and when the NOA was handed down. I wish I knew what it was.

It was the fact that we didn't stay in the world of suck. With a coach who actually knew how to coach, we pulled ourselves out of the mud and are winning too soon for the NCAA and they don't like that. Plain and simple. They trying to handcuff our success and call it deservable punishment from what Pruitt and his croanies did.

 

[Johnny Majors' Ghost]

Unbelievable

 

[Jimmy Football]

Can't like this enough. That is a change of strategy for UT brass.

I’m telling you, they’re really unhappy with the NCAA about this (and the Ahuna situation). I wouldn’t know any of this if people weren’t mad enough to vent about it.

 

[TN-POSSUM]

Austin Price says he expects Tennessee will sue the NCAA if the resolution isn't favorable and that the SEC will support the lawsuit.

The SEC will support us? That's like "we're from the government and we're here to help".

 

[orangejuice]

The SEC will support us? That's like "we're from the government and we're here to help".

SEC is self serving and they see TN as getting their crap together and being valuable again, so therefore it benefits the SEC.

 

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[Jimmy Football]

SEC is self serving and they see TN as getting their crap together and being valuable again, so therefore it benefits the SEC.

They also hate the NCAA. They see themselves as the future commissioning body for major college sports. That may be delusional on their part, but it’s a long-term goal of theirs.

 

[BigSteve09]

Austin Price says he expects Tennessee will sue the NCAA if the resolution isn't favorable and that the SEC will support the lawsuit.

 

[BigSteve09]

Maybe, but the attitude change appears to have occurred before we had our breakout season last year.

If I had to guess (and this is nothing but a guess), I would say that the Nico deal becoming public might have upset some higher-ups at the NCAA. Or maybe just our approach to NIL in general.

I wouldn’t put it past that corrupt organization to try backdoor some penalties for our NIL dealings through the resolution to the Pruitt case.

Again, though: pure speculation.

they wanted to see us grovel and continue to be a dumpster fire for 4-5 more years at the very least

when we stood up a top-tier NIL collective, signed a 5-star QB, all the pub that came with that, then had the audacity to put a winning season together... we didn't suffer enough

they thought we had moved on too quickly. they wanted us to continue reaching for .500 with a broken arm, no hope for the future.

our new, COMPETENT leadership made it look too easy, so the NCAA thought they made it too easy for us.

just goes to show that they have the hearts of dungeon masters and are sadists in suits.

 

[SSVol]

Austin Price says he expects Tennessee will sue the NCAA if the resolution isn't favorable and that the SEC will support the lawsuit.

You wanna play nice? We'll play nice.

If not...

 

[BigSteve09]

I've seen a lot of the media have us in the 20-30 range for these too-early top 25's



I'm more than happy with that. Get back in hunter-not-hunted mode and raise some eyebrows. Huge offseason for bball.

 

[SugarCC]

Everything hinges on whether the SEC *truly* has our backs. This makes me nervous.

 

[Jimmy Football]

Everything hinges on whether the SEC *truly* has our backs. This makes me nervous.

Always. But again, the SEC benefits more from us winning than the NCAA.

In spite of everything, I still don’t believe this gets to the point of litigation. But I’m way less sure of that now than earlier this year. We’ll see.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Austin Price says he expects Tennessee will sue the NCAA if the resolution isn't favorable and that the SEC will support the lawsuit.

I like this, I like it a lot.