Recruiting Forum Football Talk VI

[Jackcrevol]

that play at home plate was unreal

 

[rocktopper16]

The other thing is effectiveness, If Skenes does throw he wont be anywhere near as effective as he was Saturday. Your body doesnt recoever that fast.

Unless you on that Juice.

 

[jakez4ut]

Ending LSU's season?

 

[mr.checkerboards]

I asked a question earlier and missed if anyone gave an answer.


If you have a pitcher go for about 7 innings and throws an average amount of pitches for that time, what is the general thought on how long he should rest?

Skenes for example. How long should he be rested for after playing against us?

MLB pitchers go every 5th day, so minimum 4 days rest. The Rays one of the most analytical often like to give guys who go long like that a 5th day of rest.
Skenes could come back and throw tomorrow, but it wont be long, and it would be pretty safe to assume he wont be as effectiv. Usually a pitchers outing after a long outing like that they struggle as their body hasnt fully recoeverd.
Keep in mind Skenes is used to throwing once a week, as college weekend guys go Fri/Fri...... His body wont be used to going on such short rest.

 

[GoBigOrange86]

If we send LSU home from Omaha after dragging them in Baton Rouge in both football AND basketball this past year I may never recover.

 

[DarthVol1]

I asked a question earlier and missed if anyone gave an answer.


If you have a pitcher go for about 7 innings and throws an average amount of pitches for that time, what is the general thought on how long he should rest?

Skenes for example. How long should he be rested for after playing against us?

During the season, they go a week between starts. So you may squeeze that down at this time of the year because of the stakes. But for a guy that may go first in next months draft, it would be insane to pitch him before Thursday beyond an inning. MLB pitchers go 4 to 5 days between starts.

 

[TheRain]

The Vols will send the Tigers home tomorrow. Book it.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Unless you on that Juice.

Even then, his body is used to going Fri/Fri.... bringing him back so quickly after a long outing wont be easy on him.

 

[Ttucke11]

I asked a question earlier and missed if anyone gave an answer.


If you have a pitcher go for about 7 innings and throws an average amount of pitches for that time, what is the general thought on how long he should rest?

Skenes for example. How long should he be rested for after playing against us?

Well the MLB deploys a 5 man rotation so the experts deem it to be 4 days rest at a minimum. And Skenes didnt even pitch a standard game. He threw 120+. To pitch him tomorrow would be disgusting imo.

 

[TheMookieMonster]

Time to send the Cajuns back to the Bayou tomorrow night. Can’t wait.

 

[JAL]

Its a lot different doing it with a guy like Matthews and a guy like Skenes whos projected to go 1/1. Skeenes has a future youre costing him millions burning his arm up.

What do you think Skenes would say about that? Lets say LSU is up 4-3 in the 7th and UT has a man on 1st and 2nd.

I'm not saying start him. I'm saying use him when/if you need him to save an inning or get 2 out of him.

 

[rocktopper16]

What do you think Skenes would say about that? Lets say LSU is up 4-3 in the 7th and UT has a man on 1st and 2nd.

I'm not saying start him. I'm saying use him when/if you need him to save an inning or get 2 out of him.

I’m not disagreeing with him either but I believe if LSU is up in the 6th or 7th he will come close the game.

 

[UpstateVol613]

Even then, his body is used to going Fri/Fri.... bringing him back so quickly after a long outing wont be easy on him.

Any coach that risks a players future like that won’t be able to recruit going forward. I could see him going 1 or 2 innings.

 

[TN-POSSUM]

Just like football




GBO

 

[JAL]

I’m not disagreeing with him either but I believe if LSU is up in the 6th or 7th he will come close the game.

Exactly. Be careful though, the "ruin his career police are out tonight" because he pitches a couple innings. Funny, though, if Skenes played for UT they'd be like, "How do you not put him in when needed."

 

[Enki_Amenra]

UT's first CWS win when trailing by 3+ since 1950's

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Any coach that risks a players future like that won’t be able to recruit going forward. I could see him going 1 or 2 innings.

Look at Kumar Rocker of Vandy.
Corbin rode him like a rented mule, started him 3x in the CWS. Rocker got drafted, wasn't signed due to elbow concerns, had to go play independent ball for a year, then got re drafted and lost millions. Since then Corbin has lost out on several big arms.

 

[Ttucke11]

Exactly. Be careful though, the "ruin his career police are out tonight" because he pitches a couple innings. Funny, though, if Skenes played for UT they'd be like, "How do you not put him in when needed."

I mean say what you want man but I guarantee you all 30 MLB GMs would say hell no to pitching a young stud arm in that manner. And I would never want to risk one of our guys like that.

 

[rocktopper16]

Exactly. Be careful though, the "ruin his career police are out tonight" because he pitches a couple innings. Funny, though, if Skenes played for UT they'd be like, "How do you not put him in when needed."

They’re right though. It could be career suicide but LSU has a 2nd year coach who needs a notch on his belt & You best believe Skenes is already in his ear.

He didn’t lose velocity through 8 and was still throwing at 100mph.

 

[Ttucke11]

Look at Kumar Rocker of Vandy.
Corbin rode him like a rented mule, started him 3x in the CWS. Rocker got drafted, wasn't signed due to elbow concerns, had to go play independent ball for a year, then got re drafted and lost millions. Since then Corbin has lost out on several big arms.

Perfect example.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

During the season, they go a week between starts. So you may squeeze that down at this time of the year because of the stakes. But for a guy that may go first in next months draft, it would be insane to pitch him before Thursday beyond an inning. MLB pitchers go 4 to 5 days between starts.

Thanks. That's what I was curious about. How long a pitcher needs to rest on average, after a start.

So anything sooner than 4 days is generally frowned upon?

 

[rocktopper16]

Look at Kumar Rocker of Vandy.
Corbin rode him like a rented mule, started him 3x in the CWS. Rocker got drafted, wasn't signed due to elbow concerns, had to go play independent ball for a year, then got re drafted and lost millions. Since then Corbin has lost out on several big arms.

I see what you’re saying and I agree but Rocker is nowhere near the athlete Skenes is.

 

[DarthVol1]

Exactly. Be careful though, the "ruin his career police are out tonight" because he pitches a couple innings. Funny, though, if Skenes played for UT they'd be like, "How do you not put him in when needed."

His innings are already an issue for some MLB teams. I am a Pirates fan and the pre draft talk from them is they will likely take Crews with the first pick. Lot of concern he will end up like Steve Strausburg. Too many high pitch counts over his college career.

 

[JAL]

I mean say what you want man but I guarantee you all 30 MLB GMs would say hell no to pitching a young stud arm in that manner. And I would never want to risk one of our guys like that.

Skenes is a grown ass man. Some of you are acting like he'll be put on the mound against his will. Dude is a beast. If he says I'm ready, I say go get these 2 innings for us.

 

[DarthVol1]

Thanks. That's what I was curious about. How long a pitcher needs to rest on average, after a start.

So anything sooner than 4 days is generally frowned upon?

Under "normal" circumstances, yes. Post season can change it some.