Recruiting Forum Football Talk VI

[tnvols72]

do they drive on water like they do roads?

got weezered

I lived down in Ga for 10 years and you better be paying attention at all times. Never seen so many bad drivers in all my life. They would pull out in front of you no matter how close you was to them or they would change lanes the same way.

 

[SweetasSoda]

They have to get here somehow... Pretty sure every person associated with their program is gonna have a suspended driver's license by the time we play them.

Block the river, and we can have a game with no visitors!!

 

[drvenner]

Georgia playing press is a dangerous game for them with Tennessee receivers....a couple of slants for Touchdowns or a couple of out and ups for Touchdowns will cause Kiby to give a 5 Yard cushion on outside or play zone which in turn will help open up Tennessee running game...

A lot of this depends on how the game is called. If they continue to "press" after five yards, as they definitely want to do, and continue to grab and hold throughout the route, and then get away with it, then we will be in for a challenging day.

 

[85SugarVol]

In defense, the long throw into the endzone was flat. If he'd put some touch under that and led the receiver to the back of the endzone, it would have been a touchdown.

But that's the thing about the deep ball. They aren't supposed to be a high percentage ball.

And people seem to have romanticized Hooker. Again... He had periods that he was just plain flat and inaccurate. But this offense is good enough that QBs don't have to be perfect to put up huge stats and a lot of points.

I thought Milton looked pretty good throwing the football with it being first game, jitters and expectations, etc.

He looked ok running too.

I hope they work on his design runs this week and against Peay.

Anyone else think it look like he could hold/sell it for a half tick longer though? Before taking off?
Just a half sec longer to let the DBs get further down field and the DL further up field.

 

[Ten_Titans]

There's a ton of LSU and USCjr fans going after their media for hyping up the team too much and downplaying the deficiencys during camp.

I think going after the media for getting your hopes up is childish. But it does make me laugh just because VQ would never in a million years get caught up doing that ****. We could have 2019 LSU's offense and 2021 UGA's defense and they would never overtly hype up expectations lol.

 

[PlanetVolunteer]

In defense, the long throw into the endzone was flat. If he'd put some touch under that and led the receiver to the back of the endzone, it would have been a touchdown.

But that's the thing about the deep ball. They aren't supposed to be a high percentage ball.

And people seem to have romanticized Hooker. Again... He had periods that he was just plain flat and inaccurate. But this offense is good enough that QBs don't have to be perfect to put up huge stats and a lot of points.

Hookers game against Ball State in week 1 last year was almost identical. Same comp % had like two or three bad throws.

During the Pitt game people were wanting to bench Hooker for Joe lol

 

[utkevdawg1]

The only thing that worries me is the dang punter. Good lord… sheesh. Got to clean that up. Joe played ok for first game. Real test will be Vs Florida night game. Punter has got to be better or that’ll cost Tennessee a game or two

Not if you don't have to punt

 

[franklinpence]

Would it be illegal for me to set up a small cannon on the shoreline and fire at boats flying a Georgia flag?

Make it a t-shirt cannon and shoot them shirts with your nudez screen printed on them. That should keep them away from Neyland.

 

[PlanetVolunteer]

There's a ton of LSU and USCjr fans going after their media for hyping up the team too much and downplaying the deficiencys during camp.

I think going after the media for getting your hopes up is childish. But it does make me laugh just because VQ would never in a million years get caught up doing that ****. We could have 2019 LSU's offense and 2021 UGA's defense and they would never overtly hype up expectations lol.

Lol we basically had the 2019 LSU offense last year and it was "idk about this offensive line and outside of Tillman you really don't know what you have"

 

[peaygolf]

I thought LSU was the greatest team ever?? Turns out they're the team we beat by 4 TDs. Stupid they were ranked above us.

They quit after they got punched.......I loved it!

 

[SweetasSoda]

There's a ton of LSU and USCjr fans going after their media for hyping up the team too much and downplaying the deficiencys during camp.

I think going after the media for getting your hopes up is childish. But it does make me laugh just because VQ would never in a million years get caught up doing that ****. We could have 2019 LSU's offense and 2021 UGA's defense and they would never overtly hype up expectations lol.

Because they know the fans would attack them on Twitter!

 

[Weezer]

Make it a t-shirt cannon and shoot them shirts with your nudez screen printed on them. That should keep them away from Neyland.

Why a t-shirt? They can just look over to the shoreline and see me in all my glory. Probably all stop to get an autograph. I am a sexy beast.

 

[franklinpence]

I lived down in Ga for 10 years and you better be paying attention at all times. Never seen so many bad drivers in all my life. They would pull out in front of you no matter how close you was to them or they would change lanes the same way.

Can confirm. They’re the worst. It’s like real life Twisted Metal.

 

[drvenner]

It’s just a conversation about Milton’s consistency, relax. We all watch us run the ball with ease. But Milton still flashed some same ole concerns that will cost us the big games. If he keeps improving we could be really dangerous and that’s why we are discussing the offense.

He had one pretty rough series. What else did he flash?

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Agreed. I could see a heavy dose of Thornton and White against UF. Which brings me to ask, any news on White??

I haven't heard anything about Squirrel

 

[Volfan39]

I haven't heard anything about Squirrel

He’s fine. Heupel I think said he could have gone back in the game but just didn’t see a need for it

 

[Weezer]

He had one pretty rough series. What else did he flash?

That's the way I saw it. One series where he was obviously rattled for some reason. When he came back out for the next series, he seemed to be fixed.

 

[85SugarVol]

Vol Navy gonna be like

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

If our line can handle a standard defensive front then we will be successful…. If not then we will struggle….. the difference between Georgia and Bama last year…. We dominated Bama up front. Even if Hooker had hit the two opportunities that he had for big plays…. We would still lose bc of how inefficient we were…. Can’t win games….. playing fast and continually giving the ball back to the other team.

We would have lost because our defense wasn't good enough last year. If we also play really good defense...then 27-28 points is good enough to win games against UGA.

 

[Smokey X]

There's a ton of LSU and USCjr fans going after their media for hyping up the team too much and downplaying the deficiencys during camp.

I think going after the media for getting your hopes up is childish. But it does make me laugh just because VQ would never in a million years get caught up doing that ****. We could have 2019 LSU's offense and 2021 UGA's defense and they would never overtly hype up expectations lol.

and then there is this little jewel from Brian Kelly.....

""I think we’re in a really good position in year two," Kelly said. "Look, I will say that there are still some areas that need to be improved. We’re going to take 15 freshmen on this trip and 14 transfers. Nearly 40% of this travel roster are going to go overnight for the first time with LSU.

sounds remarkably familiar

 

[drvenner]

Would it be illegal for me to set up a small cannon on the shoreline and fire at boats flying a Georgia flag?

Just bring the howitzer

 

[Orange_Crush]

This is why I just default to trusting his decisions. How many times have we all questioned him—from coaching hires to recruits to game plan—and he just keeps proving us wrong.
He’s not infallible, but he is a hell of a lot better at his job than most, and especially than we are.

Added to your post.

 

[tnhunter 10]

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Nico looked really good in his limited action. I’m so excited for him. He’ll take over easily with quite a bit more talent than Hooker or Milton. He’s a bit more talented than both of them himself. Can’t wait

How exactly is he more talented than them?

 

[ChattaTNVol]

Random Notes -

Change in number of plays/game so far this year –

I counted the number of plays for offense only because defensive plays per game in a data set might be different for a given team but in the overall data set the number of offensive plays for all teams and all games will essentially be the same as the number of defensive plays.

Last year offenses showed up 1,672 times (836 games X 2 teams) and played 114,835 snaps. That averages out to 68.68 offensive plays per game per team in 2022.

This year through Saturday, offenses showed up 138 times (69 games) and played on average 66.94 offensive snaps per game per team.

That’s a reduction of 1.73919 offensive plays per game per team or 3.47838 offensive plays per game combined based on limited data.

We ran 85 offensive plays in our game in 27 minutes and 6 seconds (TOP). We were operating at a tempo of 3.1365 plays per minute. Oklahoma ran 82 offensive plays Saturday at a much slower pace than we play. They converted 11 of 13 3rd downs and held their opponent to 2 of 12 on 3rd down and 0 for 1 on 4th down; They dominated time of possession. There are multiple ways to get more possessions and/or plays for your offense which apparently Chip Kelly at UCLA has yet to figure out. jmo.



In our game the two teams had 14 possessions each. We managed 3.50 points per possession on offense (3.00+ is elite) and on defense we allowed 0.93 points per possession (</=1.50 is elite). ESPN rates our defensive efficiency as #1 in the SEC through week 1, 5th best in the nation.

Heupel was asked today about the impact of the new clock rules and he said and I agree that we probably don’t have enough data yet. I figure by the end of September we’ll have a better idea which is also the time I think we can better assess how good teams are this year. For example in the SEC only LSU, UF, SC, and UT have so far gone up against P5 opponents so I think it’s probably premature to judge our fellow conference members based on how they fared against G5 and FCS opponents. I think after September 30th the picture for this year will begin to really take shape. jmo.

Generally speaking, I think young talented teams often improve as the season progresses and those young guys make mistakes, learn from them, and as the speed of the game slows down in their case. I think improvement is also possible for a team adjusting to a new scheme. For teams less talented and more mature and same scheme it’s not often you see a lot of improvement as the season wears on. In particular, if you have 3rd year guys and above on an offensive line and they struggle out the gate they’re more often than not going to struggle throughout the season. I’m not expecting much improvement from Florida or South Carolina on their OLine from what we saw in week 1. jmo.

In contrast Florida’s defense is pretty talented though they are also pretty young. I think it’s likely to our advantage that we get them sooner rather than later this year. jmo.

I said in the offseason that imo Brian Kelly was overrated. Well he went into Orlando with a roster with 42 blue chips including 22 top 100 players and got embarrassed by an FSU team with 27 blue chips only 3 of which were considered top 100 players. lol

After week 1 we have the #1 defense in the SEC in yards/play, #1 pass defense in yards/game and defensive pass rating. We’re also #1 in punt return yardage and #1 in fewest TFLs allowed. We’re also tied for #1 in offensive redzone conversions. We’re #1 in explosive run plays per game (10+ yards). We’re tied at #1 for passes broken up per game. I’m sure there’s more positives relative to our conference peers vs their week 1 opponents but we still need to see that proverbial jump from week 1 to week 2 if we’re going to have our best shot at winning the East. jmo.

Anyone wanting to see Coach Sanders humbled may not have to wait too long. I noted in the offseason that he had made imo a home-run hire for OC in Sean Lewis. I think that showed up against TCU but it might be worth keeping in mind that TCU was ranked #118 in returning production this year. With the new staff and roster overhaul I thought it might be possible but challenging for Colorado to get bowl eligible this year and at the moment I still think that’s still a stretch. jmo.

Kentucky actually got penalized in the FPI for its performance against Ball State, falling a spot. Florida fell 8 spots, So. Caro. fell 13 spots, Missouri fell 3 spots, and Vandy fell 12 spots. We moved up a couple spots in FBI but are still being held back by the residual Pruitt years impact on our recent history. That hangover will gradually disappear over the next few weeks, at least for this year’s rating. FPI increasingly favors us in all of our games less Alabama and Georgia though after Saturday FBI gives us improved prospects for both of those games as well. Right now we appear to be in good shape and just need to continue improving game-by-game as we work our way towards Atlanta. jmo.