Recruiting Forum: Football Talk XI

#11,479
#11,479
UTProf said:
This thread has me thinking way too positively about our potential this year. So many upgrades but sooo young.
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I'm working on responding the the youth issue but the post is taking a lot of work. I've got all the data for the youngest 25 starting teams last year and the youngest rosters overall and I think it's interesting. For example South Carolina only had 4 seniors on their roster last year and they fielded one of the youngest starting line ups. Georgia also had a young roster and a relatively young group of starters as did Michigan, Texas A&M, UCLA, Miami Fla, etc. Anyway, we had 11 SR, 5 JR, 3 SO, & 3 FR starting so we were old relatively speaking. This year it looks like we'll have 4 SR, 9 JR, 5 SO and maybe 4 FR starting which skew young but I think in our case our talent/attitude edge this year will dramatically trump the experience/attitude edge we had last year.
 
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The Breakerboy said:
I'd take Malone too. He can just blow the top off a coverage. Makes everything look too easy.
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I went back and watched the spring game and was thinking the exact thing. His breaks and cuts in his routes are so crisp that it looks effortless. And then when he gets by you, you can't catch up, but he doesn't seem to running full speed. Very impressive as a frosh.
 
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ChattaTNVol said:
I'm working on responding the the youth issue but the post is taking a lot of work. I've got all the data for the youngest 25 starting teams last year and the youngest rosters overall and I think it's interesting. For example South Carolina only had 4 seniors on their roster last year and they fielded one of the youngest starting line ups. Georgia also had a young roster and a relatively young group of starters as did Michigan, Texas A&M, UCLA, Miami Fla, etc. Anyway, we had 11 SR, 5 JR, 3 SO, & 3 FR starting so we were old relatively speaking. This year it looks like we'll have 4 SR, 9 JR, 5 SO and maybe 4 FR starting which skew young but I think in our case our talent/attitude edge this year will dramatically trump the experience/attitude edge we had last year.
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I look forward to it and think you may be right about attitude edge in particular.

After being optimistic from this thread and thinking about the information before us, the talent level we have, our strengths and weaknesses etc. I made the mistake of visiting the FF thread on ESPNs 4-8 prediction and am now convinced we're terrible and should simply kill our football program off now before it has a chance to slide further into the abyss (all that progress I thought I'd seen with my own two eyes is imaginary). Jones will be a lousy coach because he won't win 9 and apparently every coach worth his salt has won 9 his 2nd year and we won't so we're simply doomed.
 
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jspvol76 said:
I went back and watched the spring game and was thinking the exact thing. His breaks and cuts in his routes are so crisp that it looks effortless. And then when he gets by you, you can't catch up, but he doesn't seem to running full speed. Very impressive as a frosh.
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You talking about the highlights? Or did you find a link to the whole game? If you did, please share
 
#11,489
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UTProf said:
I look forward to it and think you may be right about attitude edge in particular.

After being optimistic from this thread and thinking about the information before us, the talent level we have, our strengths and weaknesses etc. I made the mistake of visiting the FF thread on ESPNs 4-8 prediction and am now convinced we're terrible and should simply kill our football program off now before it has a chance to slide further into the abyss (all that progress I thought I'd seen with my own two eyes is imaginary). Jones will be a lousy coach because he won't win 9 and apparently every coach worth his salt has won 9 his 2nd year and we won't so we're simply doomed.
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Yeah, I went in there too. It seems like most think theres no way we can win 6. And think that the 4-8 prediction is spot on.
 
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UTProf said:
Jones will be a lousy coach because he won't win 9 and apparently every coach worth his salt has won 9 his 2nd year and we won't so we're simply doomed.
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As long as the people who believe this don't start a petition mid season next year and grab media headlines, we will be fine.
 
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As far as our pass protection goes, one thing I look for to help out a lot this season that I think many are overlooking is our added depth at TE.

A lot of pressures came from Downs getting blown up last year (I know he was hurt and giving his all, not trying to bash him). Wolf has the size and athleticism to match with ends or chip more effectively. He's the size of or bigger than many SEC DEs
 
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ChattaTNVol said:
I'm working on responding the the youth issue but the post is taking a lot of work. I've got all the data for the youngest 25 starting teams last year and the youngest rosters overall and I think it's interesting. For example South Carolina only had 4 seniors on their roster last year and they fielded one of the youngest starting line ups. Georgia also had a young roster and a relatively young group of starters as did Michigan, Texas A&M, UCLA, Miami Fla, etc. Anyway, we had 11 SR, 5 JR, 3 SO, & 3 FR starting so we were old relatively speaking. This year it looks like we'll have 4 SR, 9 JR, 5 SO and maybe 4 FR starting which skew young but I think in our case our talent/attitude edge this year will dramatically trump the experience/attitude edge we had last year.
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This is really, really good work. What it will also reveal is which coaching staffs are the best at developing young talent. The schemes so may are use are similar. Everybody even understands Oregon now.

How did Strong turn around Louisville with 3* talent from Florida? Granted his schedule was not SEC quality, but neither was his talent. He used fast, football smart football players with a good QB in schemes that competed well against his schedule. They were mentally tough, which helps you in close games. It's Butch's turn to do the same.
 
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I find it crazy that our 3rd string slot receiver could be a 4* (Ryan Jenkins)

Pearson
Pig (if he makes it back)
Jenkins
Johnson
Wharton
 
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I know we haven't seen them on the field yet, but has there even been such a turnaround at a position in UT history? I mean we went from one of the worst reciever corps in a long time to arguably the strength of our team next season. In just one year we added a huge amount of talent and depth. Pearson, Malone, Helm, Wolf, Jenkins returning, and Wharton in one offseason.
 
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PassedOutAwake said:
I find it crazy that our 3rd string slot receiver could be a 4* (Ryan Jenkins)

Pearson
Pig (if he makes it back)
Jenkins
Johnson
Wharton
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Lol. That's just sick-nasty! We need issues like this at multiple positions.
 
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