Recruiting Forum Football Talk XLI

[Bassmaster_Vol]

I actually laughed at Hubbs when he said "Brooks has never played in a college game..."

I mean...what a sh!t show. If I didn't laugh, I'd.... probably hit something.

He’s also never played OT. Was a TE

 

[drvenner]

Agreed. It's like we are watching a pitcher warm up before an inning and criticizing him for not throwing strikes. The damn inning hasn't started yet

The night that Harvey Haddix threw 10+ perfect innings of baseball, he felt terrible during warmups. Here's hoping that your analogy holds true.

 

[Nash_Vol97]

- vq

Just landed back in NC, thank god I’ll be at a wedding tomorrow during the game. Going to just shut off my notifications and tune it out for the day.

 

[Darth_Shiveman]

Like I keep saying.. Currie is batting 1000 so far at UT.

-brought back Lady Vols
-Handled baseball search wonderfully and got a great candidate.
-jump starting further renovations to Neyland.

Stop assuming he’s fumbling the butch/coach situation just bc we’re all in the dark.

I’m all for waiting and giving Currie a chance before we decide whether he is blowing it.


But can we really count the baseball hire as a sure thing yet? Looks promising for sure, but we don’t know what will come of that hire quite yet. Serrano looked promising too and many of us were happy with Hart when he was hired.

 

[Kingston Vol]

The only difference between 8-4 and 10-2 the last 2 years has been losing games we had no business losing.

Use the players we have, continue to recruit top 10, and have a coach that knows about football, and we’ll be fine

Bingo. And there's absolutely zero chance we hire a coach who is worse in game management and player development than Butch Jones. He took the two most talent teams in the East (2015 & 2016) to 8 losses.

 

[BigZiti09]

What was the setting of this meeting where Currie talked about stadium renovations?

 

[BruinVol]

The night that Harvey Haddix threw 10+ perfect innings of baseball, he felt terrible during warmups. Here's hoping that your analogy holds true.

Nolan Ryan threw a no hitter after coming into the dugout telling his manager to have someone else ready because he felt bad after warming up

 

[ob79]

Sure it was. Sam Walton started with a dime store and lucked his way into it as well.

Well hell, there are a thousand Dollar General's in my town, might as well start a franchise.

 

[Darth_Shiveman]

No he's already on the mound and threw 2 backward ks the problem is the next batter got ahold of a hanging curve and is now on second and gave the other team momentum (fanbase mad as hornets and won't accept anything less than a home run hire)

Is the momentum thing referencing UF and Frost? If so, I’m not sure that’s a good analogy.

It’s not like us firing Butch earlier would have made it so that Frost wasn’t interested in UF once they fired Mac.

 

[Kingston Vol]

What was the setting of this meeting where Currie talked about stadium renovations?

In the board meeting where he was there solely to.... present the stadium renovation plans and get approval on said plans.

I don't get people complaining about this.

 

[BruinVol]

I’m all for waiting and giving Currie a chance before we decide whether he is blowing it.


But can we really count the baseball hire as a sure thing yet? Looks promising for sure, but we don’t know what will come of that hire quite yet. Serrano looked promising too and many of us were happy with Hart when he was hired.

If we are counting the baseball hire in this we need to include he got publicly turned down as well. That doesn't bother me but it really isn't true to say Currie got his guy in TV.

 

[drvenner]

Hopefully under

I think it almost definitely will be under. The fact that you hope it is smacks of immaturity and shortsightedness.

 

[Chief Vol 13]

Im ready for nebraska to swoop in and grab frost now. No chip or frost to florida

I thought Frost was the leading candidate for Florida?

 

[RikidyBones]

Well if what MIT is right, the approval was just given and funded by new gen of booster. You dont Gruden we pull our chunk out. good luck getting that money. Only way is for Curry to wow the new gen with his hire if it's not Gruden, otherwise ...its a risky move.

 

[Kingston Vol]

Well if what MIT is right, the approval was just given and funded by new gen of booster. You dont Gruden we pull our chunk out. good luck getting that money. Only way is for Curry to wow the new gen with his hire if it's not Gruden, otherwise ...its a risky move.

The first six words of this post make the rest of the words irrelevant.

 

[SergeantVol]

This is what the Cubs' owners did for about a hundred years. They knew that they could get fannies in the seat, they had a great contract with WGN and, later, Fox and ESPN, and so were not motivated at all to field even a winning team, much less a championship team. Finally, the Ricketts family bought the Cubs and brought in Theo Epstein. This is exactly what Tennessee needs. We need the old guard that is not willing to spend the money to step aside and bring in our version of Theo Epstein to run our AD.

Alright, alright you talked me into it. I’ll be Tennessee’s Theo Epstein.

 

[JCP201]

Barry. Berry College is my alma mater and is DIII.

I was going to say, if he lost to Berry college then he's definitely in trouble.

 

[RockyTopInBham]

I jokingly brought up Southern Miss losing to UAB and I am not suggesting he's a candidate for our job but is there a better coaching job in all of football than is going on at UAB???

They didn't even have a football team the past 2 years and are 5-3 with wins over La Tech, MTSU and Southern miss. That's hard for me to understand being possible

Excuse my fandom coming out in favor of my alma mater here, but you're right Bruin. I don't think any UAB fan this season expected this. Bill Clark is killing it. And he's probably going to parlay this season into a bigger gig. Enjoying it while it lasts, though.

 

[Jimmy Football]

In the board meeting where he was there solely to.... present the stadium renovation plans and get approval on said plans.

I don't get people complaining about this.

I'm going to say "fair enough" and just let things play out. Admittedly, I can't judge a hire before it is made. But I have a feeling a bunch of you guys are going to be on my side of this when this all plays out.

Again, I really hope I'm wrong on John Currie.

 

[BruinVol]

Well if what MIT is right, the approval was just given and funded by new gen of booster. You dont Gruden we pull our chunk out. good luck getting that money. Only way is for Curry to wow the new gen with his hire if it's not Gruden, otherwise ...its a risky move.

The thing about MIT that screams him being wrong is do we really believe high level boosters go to twitter and call out ADs?

Imo that simply isn't reasonable or how people of influence conduct business

 

[WinginFlorida]

It's naive to say no one in the program cares about winning.

At some point we're going to have to come to grips with the fact this job doesn't have the same pull it once did. We all like to think we're just in a lull and every program goes through this - but the reality is we haven't won a conference championship in 20 years.

Top coaches RARELY leave successful programs they've built. It's just the facts. I want a Patterson, Gundy, Fisher type guy just like everyone else. It's not realistic.

I'm not suggesting lower expectations. Any coach that takes this job should be held to a standard of always being competitive in the East. I'm just saying it's tough to make a proven guy leave something good for something unknown.

Patterson, Gundy & Fisher were all coordinators before taking their respective jobs and all 3 remain to this day at the schools that gave them the opportunity to be a head coach. Many folks here are adamantly opposed to the coordinator route. They may very well be right but it's obviously a heckuva challenge to find a bright young coach who is successful and who can be enticed into changing jobs.

It's not that the UT job isn't tempting, it's just there are very, very few coaches who fit the VN job description. Therein lies your challenge.

 

[BruinVol]

Excuse my fandom coming out in favor of my alma mater here, but you're right Bruin. I don't think any UAB fan this season expected this. Bill Clark is killing it. And he's probably going to parlay this season into a bigger gig. Enjoying it while it lasts, though.

If I was Ole Miss I would hire Bill Clark in a heart beat. Simple amazing how good of a job he is doing

 

[Chief Vol 13]

It's naive to say no one in the program cares about winning.

At some point we're going to have to come to grips with the fact this job doesn't have the same pull it once did. We all like to think we're just in a lull and every program goes through this - but the reality is we haven't won a conference championship in 20 years.

Top coaches RARELY leave successful programs they've built. It's just the facts. I want a Patterson, Gundy, Fisher type guy just like everyone else. It's not realistic.

I'm not suggesting lower expectations. Any coach that takes this job should be held to a standard of always being competitive in the East. I'm just saying it's tough to make a proven guy leave something good for something unknown.

Think Larry said yesterday that of the last 35 football hires in the SEC, only 3 have been from another power 5 school. A lot of coaches don't want to leave a comfortable position to come to this conference when there's a good chance he'll get chewed up and spit out in 3 years if he doesn't have it rolling by then. Just have to be able to take calculated risks.

 

[InVOLuntary]

The thing about MIT that screams him being wrong is do we really believe high level boosters go to twitter and call out ADs?

Imo that simply isn't reasonable or how people of influence conduct business

I don't think he's a high level booster, I think he's the kid of one.

 

[JCP201]

I don't think he's a high level booster, I think he's the kid of one.

I think so, too.