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HankHill said:
Like I keep saying.. Currie is batting 1000 so far at UT.

-brought back Lady Vols
-Handled baseball search wonderfully and got a great candidate.
-jump starting further renovations to Neyland.

Stop assuming he’s fumbling the butch/coach situation just bc we’re all in the dark.
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The master plan is all coming together
 
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HankHill said:
Like I keep saying.. Currie is batting 1000 so far at UT.

-brought back Lady Vols
-Handled baseball search wonderfully and got a great candidate.
-jump starting further renovations to Neyland.

Stop assuming he’s fumbling the butch/coach situation just bc we’re all in the dark.
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I agree with Hank. I believe Currie doesn’t like to fire mid season, looks bad to coaches.
 
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It's naive to say no one in the program cares about winning.

At some point we're going to have to come to grips with the fact this job doesn't have the same pull it once did. We all like to think we're just in a lull and every program goes through this - but the reality is we haven't won a conference championship in 20 years.

Top coaches RARELY leave successful programs they've built. It's just the facts. I want a Patterson, Gundy, Fisher type guy just like everyone else. It's not realistic.

I'm not suggesting lower expectations. Any coach that takes this job should be held to a standard of always being competitive in the East. I'm just saying it's tough to make a proven guy leave something good for something unknown.
 
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HankHill said:
What has he done wrong?
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It's all opinion but I think it's been a mistake to keep Butch over there. I was ok with them keeping him until through KY as those two weeks were both road games. I don't think he's doing Butch or the program any favors by letting him hang around in this toxic environment. Don't see any advantage to it.
 
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BruinVol said:
Agreed. It's like we are watching a pitcher warm up before an inning and criticizing him for not throwing strikes. The damn inning hasn't started yet
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No he's already on the mound and threw 2 backward ks the problem is the next batter got ahold of a hanging curve and is now on second and gave the other team momentum (fanbase mad as hornets and won't accept anything less than a home run hire)
 
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Kingston Vol said:
It's naive to say no one in the program cares about winning.

At some point we're going to have to come to grips with the fact this job doesn't have the same pull it once did. We all like to think we're just in a lull and every program goes through this - but the reality is we haven't won a conference championship in 20 years.

Top coaches RARELY leave successful programs they've built. It's just the facts. I want a Patterson, Gundy, Fisher type guy just like everyone else. It's not realistic.

I'm not suggesting lower expectations. Any coach that takes this job should be held to a standard of always being competitive in the East. I'm just saying it's tough to make a proven guy leave something good for something unknown.
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At this point, we could hire the janitor and get similar results
 
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BigZiti09 said:
That’s not bait. It’s truth.
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Just trying to mess with Bruin a bit, Ziti. Lighten the mood in this place.

You guys know my stance on Currie, so no use beating that dead horse. I just hope you guys are right about him, and I'm wrong; becuase if I'm right, we're in big trouble.
 
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drvenner said:
My goodness. At this rate, we won't have to complain about taking the redshirt off of McBride for just one play. He will be the starting QB by the third series.
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Nah...he'll slide into a spot on the o-line. If UT manages to win, he and Devante Brooks will be Co-SEC Offensive Players of the Week.
 
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Catbone said:
I just can't give money and support an admin that doesn't care about winning. I hope others feel the same way.
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You ain’t got any damn money! :w00t:

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ChattaTNVol said:
According to Doug Matthews & John Adams, the Haslams torpedoed Charlie Anderson & allies in the hiring of Currie. Reportedly Fulmer was Anderson's choice. In any event there are reports of boosters calling shots with regards to UT athletics.

One of the tidbits to come out of the board meeting yesterday was Currie's attributing the increased scope of the Phase 1 Neyland renovation project to a "new generation of donors". The increased scope was pulled from future phases and valued at around $74m.

If we have a new generation of donors that can compete with the Haslams we may have a shot this time. The only snag could be where does the loyaties of the Chancelor and Athletic Director lie? Do they work for Tennessee or to they work for the Haslams. Adams seemed to suggest this past spring that the Chancelor might work for the Haslams and may have an issue with personal integrity.

Some billionaires are billionaires because they are borderline crooks and cheapskates. Not all are like that but some are without a doubt. Another characteristic I would think some of them share is narcissism. With narcissists, it's pretty much my way or the highway.

From what I know of the Haslams, they developed a prototype gas station, replicated that prototype at hundreds of locations around the country, made billions, and now believe they are geniuses. So basically we have the guy who purchased a filling station in Gate City, Virginia, for $6,000 in the late 50's runniing our athletic program.

When he first came home from the Korean war he was offered the job as football coach at South Pittsburgh high school so you know he believes he's qualified.
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Ok, I can get on board with just about everything on here...

Except the part where you gloss over the fact that a man spent 6k and then, years later, became a BILLIONAIRE.

Let's not diminish that fact down to "guy spends 6k, does the same thing over and over, and lucks into A BILLION DOLLARS."

LOL, I doubt it was that easy...

Edit: And just so this isn't interpreted into a defense of Haslam...

F. The Haslam's.
 
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HankHill said:
Even still there’s no need to panic. Butch has shown to be a really bad coach on a big stage. So if we get a guy that’s even decent at management. We will be fine. Anyone can bring players to TN.
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The only difference between 8-4 and 10-2 the last 2 years has been losing games we had no business losing.

Use the players we have, continue to recruit top 10, and have a coach that knows about football, and we’ll be fine
 
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orangeblood79 said:
Ok, I can get on board with just about everything on here...

Except the part where you gloss over the fact that a man spent 6k and then, years later, became a BILLIONAIRE.

Let's not diminish that fact down to "guy spends 6k, does the same thing over and over, and lucks into A BILLION DOLLARS."

LOL, I doubt it was that easy...
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Sure it was. Sam Walton started with a dime store and lucked his way into it as well.
 
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