Recruiting Forum Football Talk XLI

[volamite86]

Wait, did Currie tie up Gruden or did Gruden tie up Currie??

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Kinky 😏

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Wait, did Currie tie up Gruden or did Gruden tie up Currie??

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It's actually Haslam that's tied up so he can't interject. That's Ergen presenting Gruden as the new coach!

 

[volsnvikes]

Wait, did Currie tie up Gruden or did Gruden tie up Currie??

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50 shades of Grude

 

[BruinVol]

I am saying with 100% certainty you don't know how coaching searches work. Coaches are informed they won't be retained all the time, and HC positions are not advertised/posted. AD's actively pursue new coaches while still having one under contract (but not being retained) regularly.

Recent ETSU HC examples not advertised...

Baseball HC position NOT posted
Basketball HC position NOT posted
Football HC position NOT posted

All Of these recent new HC's were identified by the AD and pursued and landed.

But keep telling us of the NCAA family member you have that has zero understanding of the hiring and firing practices of universities in the state of TN. A hiring search has zero to do with NCAA compliance.

So just as I assumed you had not one example of a coach signing a document before the job was officially open. Not one after you saying you had multiple examples. Lol

 

[InVOLuntary]

I certainly hope so. Maybe Travis Stephens.
Also I edited my post to respond about the Hubbs comment.

Inky Johnson!

 

[Outofmyvolcanmind]

I’m open to reconsider. Someone convince me why Mullen would be more than a solid hire (which I think it would be). Convince me with coaching staff, stories, philopsophy, etc. why Mullen is a sexy, championship-level hire.

Mullen and Herman were the actual architects of Urban’s championship teams. They were the brains and Urban was the puppet master. If they learn the leadership side (comes with experience) they will both win big when resources match their ambition.

That work?

 

[Catbone]

You guys are starting yourself up for disappointment. Let's get Mullen and move on!

 

[Outofmyvolcanmind]

Cliffs notes version:

As an assistant:

Position coach for #1 overall draft pick. OC and position coach for heisman trophy winner. OC for two national title teams.

As a head coach:

Has made the worst job in the toughest division of the hardest conference in the country an above average to good program. A program that had only 13 bowl appearances in its history prior to him, he has made 7 in a row and this season will be 8. Has the reputation of maximizing and developing talent and finding good recruits even though all the schools around him have more to offer.

It is the absolute worst job in the west and he consistently over performs.

 

[Outofmyvolcanmind]

He pretty much is to the west at MSU what Franklin was to the East at Vandy. If he had similar results at UT that Franklin is at PSU im in i guess. I just want Gruden. That would be epic. Mullen isnt epic.

I want Gruden also but Mullen is a ground rule double with a runner on second and one out. Would win 9 to 11 consistently and with right QB, watch the f out!

 

[Grey_pilgrim]

Inky Johnson!

Inky would kill at that!

 

[BruinVol]

I want Gruden also but Mullen is a ground rule double with a runner on second and one out. Would win 9 to 11 consistently and with right QB, watch the f out!

Mullen is less risky than even Gruden. I like your baseball anaplogy. I would go with a 3-run double with 2 outs. This program has 2 outs I am afraid

 

[BruinVol]

Specifically, I don't recall many of them. But practically, you wouldn't want to enforce it if the guy decides he doesn't want to be at your school.

The craziest twist of a coach accepting a job and then changing their mind is Rich Rod. Can you imagine the different course college football would have taken if he hadn't changed his mind? Crazy to thing about

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Tennessee Football: Latest List Of Top 10 Coaches To Lead Vols In 2018

1. Greg Schiano — Defensive coordinator at Ohio State

You might scoff at this, but I’m all in on Greg Schiano.

He did tremendous things at Rutgers, and then he decided to give the NFL a shot. Obviously that didn’t work out too well, but he’s hardly the first great college coach to suffer the same fate.

Schiano then went to Ohio State to learn from one of the best in Urban Meyer.

I think Schiano is the most realistic possibility for the Volunteers. And I think he’s probably the most “sure thing” on this list. He has the ability to turn Tennessee into a national championship contender.

And I don’t think he’d hesitate to take the job at Tennessee — plus he probably wouldn’t force the Vols to break the bank for his services.

Schiano, who is only 51, has the potential to be the next great head coach in college football.

 

[highspeed]

Is that a big deal coming from BabyVol?

If, as another poster mentioned, that's the original BabyVol, then he is legit. However, I would caution that in 2012 he was all in on Gruden and completely believed Gruden was coming here. He was one of the primary insiders fanning the flames last time around. I do think BabyVol had serious contacts at the time of the last coaching search, but he was either fed some bad info or the situation turned a different direction than his contacts expected. TIFIW.

 

[BruinVol]

If, as another poster mentioned, that's the original BabyVol, then he is legit. However, I would caution that in 2012 he was all in on Gruden and completely believed Gruden was coming here. He was one of the primary insiders fanning the flames last time around. I do think BabyVol had serious contacts at the time of the last coaching search, but he was either fed some bad info or the situation turned a different direction than his contacts expected. TIFIW.

I thought that was a different babyvol here in 2012?

 

[JAllen18]

Count me on the Gruden train, still mulling our offer.

 

[Blake25p]

There is a lot more smoke around Gruden than there was in 2012.

 

[FieldGeneral59]

Tennessee Football: Latest List Of Top 10 Coaches To Lead Vols In 2018

Did they write that before or after the mighty Hawkeyes embarrassed his defense?

 

[BruinVol]

Count me on the Gruden train, still mulling our offer.

I believe this is True.

I also would bet a big amount of $ he says no.

 

[volfanCLT]

Count me on the Gruden train, still mulling our offer.

Ehh, you said Butch was 100% out after Bama too.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Did they write that before or after the mighty Hawkeyes embarrassed his defense?

It was written this morning.

 

[OGbabyaviVol]

Inky Johnson!

This!! He needs to officially be a part of our program. Hire him as VFL coordinator and official motivational speaker.

 

[Chief Vol 13]

Ehh, you said Butch was 100% out after Bama too.

Yeah not trying to be a jerk but he also said the boosters wanted Chip Kelly

 

[BleedorangeinGA]

This!! He needs to officially be a part of our program. Hire him as VFL coordinator and official motivational speaker.

I’m certainly not saying Inky wouldn’t do it but he currently makes a very nice living, and enjoy their life in Atlanta. I know money isn’t the only decision in life but they would have to at least triple that pay to get what Inky makes now.

 

[highspeed]

I thought that was a different babyvol here in 2012?

The BabyVol I'm referring to was a long-time and very well respected poster on the Scout board, dating all the way back to the late 90s before it was even owned by Scout. Back then it used to be called Jumpmaster's Recruitnicks. He may have been active on other boards as well (LWS was a long-time poster on that board also), but that is where I know (in the virtual sense) him from. I have no idea if this is the same BabyVol.

The BabyVol I'm talking about consistently brought legit info and was well known to posters on that board as a person who had serious contacts. However, he was dead wrong on Gruden last time around.