Recruiting Forum Football Talk XLI

[nicksjuzunk]

wow! Anyone know who this is? I politely questioned dp. This guy throat punched him haha

👀

 

[Skizer41]

Maybe DP was sent in here to squash the Ergen theory because if Gruden is hired, the new AD would want people to think it was him that got it done and not somebody who went over his head and strong armed him into doing it. Its not a very good look on Currie if Gruden happens and all of the fans know how and why it happened.

Maybe they used DeerPark because they knew how much clout he had on here and that most would believe it. Control the narrative.

Most are wavering on their belief in what MIT brought but he did say that Currie would come out of this looking like a hero but that would actually not be the case.

Not saying I believe MIT. Hell I don't even know if he's a 14 yo or a 45 yo jet setter like he portrays haha. But he did mention Currie will want to look like the hero in all this when in fact it was a few boosters who did it.

 

[Vol knight]

 

[Smokey123]

Just curious, outside of James Franklin, how many coaches do you know of who notably increased their winning % after going into a better coaching job?

Saban to LSU
Miles to LSU
...

I know they are out there. This is always the driver of the Mullen argument and I’m thinking through the odds a bit

:hi:

Meyer from BG to Utah and also UF to Osu, not sure if those really fit here though.

Harbaugh from Stanford to UM
Chizik from Iowa State to Auburn
Spurrier from Duke to UF

These off the top of my head

This would be a cool thing to really look into.

 

[nicksjuzunk]

Meyer from BG to Utah and also UF to Osu, not sure if those really fit here though.

Harbaugh from Stanford to UM
Chizik from Iowa State to Auburn
Spurrier from Duke to UF

These off the top of my head

This would be a cool thing to really look into.

Stanford to Michigan does not belong
I think Chizik proved he was no good after talent left
Urban to Florida is a push, IMO. BG to Utah, I don’t have stats infront of me
Spurrier works

 

[Smokey123]

Stanford to Michigan does not belong
I think Chizik proved he was no good after talent left
Urban to Florida is a push, IMO. BG to Utah, I don’t have stats infront of me
Spurrier works

Why does Stanford to UM not belong?

 

[nicksjuzunk]

Why does Stanford to UM not belong?

I admittedly don’t have the stats in front of me, but the criteria I put forth was a win % increase.

Aside from his Stanford beginning I wouldn’t say Michigan is currently out performing where Stanford was when he left

Could be wrong

 

[nicksjuzunk]

Why does Stanford to UM not belong?

Looked it.

You have a point

I remembered more big years st Stanford

 

[Smokey123]

I admittedly don’t have the stats in front of me, but the criteria I put forth was a win % increase.

Aside from his Stanford beginning I wouldn’t say Michigan is currently out performing where Stanford was when he left

Could be wrong

Ahhh ok, misunderstood. I thought you meant as a whole. You would be correct, his final year he went 12-1 and was top 5

 

[BigOrange15]

DP is one of about 3-4 people here with actual connections of some kind. He doesnt have ALL the info but he has some...so how about people quit trying to run him off the ****ing board by relentlessly picking apart every little thing he says/****ting on him every time he posts.

 

[Smokey123]

Looked it.

You have a point

I remembered more big years st Stanford

To be fair he was only there for 4 years, I just thought you meant as a whole. He actually had the exact same record his last two years at Stanford as he did his first 2 at UM.

 

[nicksjuzunk]

DP is one of about 3-4 people here with actual connections of some kind. He doesnt have ALL the info but he has som...so how about people quit trying to run him off the ****ing board by relentlessly picking apart every little thing he says/****ting on him every time he posts.

They are convinced he is on a covert mission from the AD to cover up Gruden

It will be sad, but when this place burns to ground with another hire, it will certainly entertain

 

[nicksjuzunk]

To be fair he was only there for 4 years, I just thought you meant as a whole. He actually had the exact same record his last two years at Stanford as he did his first 2 at UM.

Yeah, that was the heart of the original post.

 

[nicksjuzunk]

If Sumlin is going to be fired, I wonder what A&M thinks of Chad Morris.

If they pass, he may be open to a Tennessee move. I think I’d gamble on his upside

 

[Darth_Shiveman]

If Sumlin is going to be fired, I wonder what A&M thinks of Chad Morris.

If they pass, he may be open to a Tennessee move. I think I’d gamble on his upside

I kind of think he may be their guy. He’s an alum.


I’d like him as a HC here, but he kinda get the feeling he wants to end up at a P5 school in Texas. If A&M passes in him, I’d imagine he gets a look from Texas Tech if that job comes open. He was passed over for Kingsbury last time that job opened up.

 

[nicksjuzunk]

I kind of think he may be their guy. He’s an alum.


I’d like him as a HC here, but he kinda get the feeling he wants to end up at a P5 school in Texas. If A&M passes in him, I’d imagine he gets a look from Texas Tech if that job comes open. He was passed over for Kingsbury last time that job opened up.

Mullen or Morris, for you?

 

[Vfl2407]

Rod Gilmore was the worst (Andre Ware bad too), but Jordan Rodgers I CAN'T watch. He is awful. I would love to hear Gilmore, or Ware more than Rodgers. :bammer:

When talking UT, Rodgers still can’t see past his Vandy background. All the color announcers and analysts on the SEC Network have a playing background. Most from SEC schools. Most openly admit the love for their particular school but still can be fairly objective when talking their school and rival ones.
IMHO, McElroy is the best at this and does his homework.
Rodgers, as they like to say nowadays, not so much.

 

[BarrythesnoUT]

When talking UT, Rodgers still can’t see past his Vandy background. All the color announcers and analysts on the SEC Network have a playing background. Most from SEC schools. Most openly admit the love for their particular school but still can be fairly objective when talking their school and rival ones.
IMHO, McElroy is the best at this and does his homework.
Rodgers, as they like to say nowadays, not so much.

McElroy is great.

 

[drvenner]

I figured he at least lived here. How else would be know so many people at Cafe Mays school?

Cafe Mays again! I am going to have to check that place out. How's their lobster bisque?

 

[rekinhavoc]

I remember someone in the Gruden thread was inquiring where Deerpark was and what was his opinion.

Bottom line nobody knows anything. Stick with reports Currie runs a tight ship.

We'll know at the podium.

 

[ChattaTNVol]

UT AD/Football Program source launches blistering attack on fanbase (hyperbole intended)

Someone is miffed because a few people didn't believe the Dooley hire or the Jones hire was up to expectations for Tennessee and never gave the guys a chance yet we had the 3rd highest attendance in the SEC for Jones 1st spring practice in 2013. The hype in the fanbase for at least the first 2 & 1/2 years of the Jones tenure was off the charts. The last 2 years season ticket sales have been the best in the last 10 years. We are one of only 4 SEC schools that average over 100k in attendance for our home games. What exactly is there to be miffed about in regards to the fanbase?

I'm seriously trying to figure out what else the fanbase needed to do to show that it was giving the guy a chance?

No. 1 Tennessee: $107.1 million

Not only are the Volunteers the Champions of Life, but the clear football revenue winners based on the most recent data. Tennessee had both the most revenue ($107.1 million) and most profits ($78.9 million) of all 14 SEC football programs. It is a credit to the program’s large and loyal fanbase that packs out Neyland Stadium each week even when the product on the field isn’t always great.

Ranking the richest and poorest SEC football programs | AL.com

 

[rekinhavoc]

UT AD/Football Program source launches blistering attack on fanbase (hyperbole intended)

Someone is miffed because a few people didn't believe the Dooley hire or the Jones hire was up to expectations for Tennessee and never gave the guys a chance yet we had the 3rd highest attendance in the SEC for Jones 1st spring practice in 2013. The hype in the fanbase for at least the first 2 & 1/2 years of the Jones tenure was off the charts. The last 2 years season ticket sales have been the best in the last 10 years. We are one of only 4 SEC schools that average over 100k in attendance for our home games. What exactly is there to be miffed about in regards to the fanbase?

I'm seriously trying to figure out what else the fanbase needed to do to show that it was giving the guy a chance?



Ranking the richest and poorest SEC football programs | AL.com

Idk. Five years is a long time in the SEC for coach to prove he can field a championship team. Unless you are Vandy/MSU.

 

[HankHill]

Mullen or Morris, for you?

If it gets to this point: Norvell, Morris, Venables, or Schiano?

 

[nicksjuzunk]

UT AD/Football Program source launches blistering attack on fanbase (hyperbole intended)

Someone is miffed because a few people didn't believe the Dooley hire or the Jones hire was up to expectations for Tennessee and never gave the guys a chance yet we had the 3rd highest attendance in the SEC for Jones 1st spring practice in 2013. The hype in the fanbase for at least the first 2 & 1/2 years of the Jones tenure was off the charts. The last 2 years season ticket sales have been the best in the last 10 years. We are one of only 4 SEC schools that average over 100k in attendance for our home games. What exactly is there to be miffed about in regards to the fanbase?

I'm seriously trying to figure out what else the fanbase needed to do to show that it was giving the guy a chance?



Ranking the richest and poorest SEC football programs | AL.com

And yet we still can’t get a top level coach to come do work

 

[Darth_Shiveman]

Mullen or Morris, for you?

Tough call for me because we know more about Mullen at the P5 level. Both have pretty similar backgrounds.

If I had to pick, I’d probably go with Mullen just because he’s a known entity. Morris might have the higher upside (especially if he stays in Texas). I’d be happy with either. I’d be have a little bit more uncertainty with Morris though. I think we’d need to pair either with a pretty good DC to make it work.