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#701
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vol2002 said:
I will confess I find this whole process incredibly discouraging. Throughout the whole Butch era, I thought in the back of mind that if Butch failed we’d go big like Bama and Michigan to rescue the program from obscurity.

Sounds like we are trying to but can’t get the big splash hire.

Seems typical of all things UT sports related these days. First and goal and can’t get it in the end zone.

I’m leaning towards think Currie lands Bobo and tries to tell us it’s a homerun. Or tries to sell us on one more year for Butch to fix things.

I need a glimmer or ray of hope.
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That’s every fans perception, but rarely reality.

Harbaugh has been average too
 
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Mike4Vols said:
Lol. LWS is the biggest Debbie Downer on the forum. He's right some of the time --- but not all the time. Taking his word for gospel is as dangerous as MIT beaver or some of the other folks.

Hell, I just get tired of hearing his negative stance on everything.
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Lol all you want, no one cares about your opinion and people care about his, get over it.

His posts aren't about rainbows and butterflies so you don't like it. You call it negative, I call it reality... the last decade or greater has been a dumpster fire.
 
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UT_King said:
Lol all you want, no one cares about your opinion and people care about his, get over it.

His posts aren't about rainbows and butterflies so you don't like it. You call it negative, I call it reality... the last decade or greater has been a dumpster fire.
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but hes not as spot on as he used to be bottom line and its not close.
 
#706
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GoBigOrangeVols said:
These are sure things:

Jimbo
Gruden
Patterson
Fuente
Mullen
Wittingham


These guys are risks:

Kelly
Frost
Kiffin
Calhoun
Doeren
Houston
Morris
Taggart
Campbell
Tee Martin
JBC

We are not in a place where we need to take a risk. We need a sure thing.
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I am sorry, but none of these guys are sure things. To be honest, I would not put Wittingham with the coaches that are closer to being a sure thing. I would leave Kiffin completely off the list, but otherwise I think that you have done a good job of classifying the potential candidates.
 
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SpringBokVol said:
My thoughts:

UT has done everything they can and should do to try and get Gruden. I think in the end he doesn't want to coach or coach here at UT. But it won't be for lack of effort or money on UT's part.

Coach Jones will coach longer than anyone wants him to this year - he already has - I keep saying this and no one really listens (that's okay).

Butch is absolutely done - he will not coach in 2018 for UT. But the timing of when this will be announced is not known.

I think our best program changing hire with the most potential upside is Scott Frost.

I hope this is who we end up with as he will redefine and reshape our culture into winning football - snatching the souls of our opponents and crushing their hopes and dreams.
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I don’t see Frost turning down both Florida and Nebraska for Tennessee.
 
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jave36 said:
At the college level? Frost has accomplished much more than Gruden. It's a totally different job than coaching in the NFL.
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Frost hasn’t accomplished anything of note at the college level.

I would say winning a SB shows you have a little bit of coaching talent. Much more than being 7-0 in the AAC imo
 
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jlarson11 said:
UCFSportsInfo‏ @UCFSportsInfo 45m45 minutes ago
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. @ucf_marcdaniels said as of today no one has contacted Scott Frost or his agent. Marc said people claiming to have sources are lying
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This almost guarantees that his agent has been contacted.
 
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chavisut said:
Recruiting would be fine.

I know, but he hates recruiting.
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Quoting this just to try and get an answer.

Is Taggert recruiting at a significantly higher rate than Kelly was while at Oregon? His staff has a reputation for being relentless recruiters. Would think they could recruit circles around a guy who “hates recruiting”
 
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Mullen (Florida or stays put)
Frost (going to Florida if Mullen doesn't)
Taggart (sounds like he may listen to get out of Oregon)
Morris
Brohm
Wilson
Strong
Norvell
Babers
Brown
 
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85SugarVol said:
Is there a more arrogant, pompous poster in the entire RF than Ziti?
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Boo freakin hoo. Just sharing opinion.

Sorry you and a couple others don’t like it. It comes and goes on here for me. I guess I have a way of rubbing people the wrong way. Not my intention.
 
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UT_King said:
Lol all you want, no one cares about your opinion and people care about his, get over it.

His posts aren't about rainbows and butterflies so you don't like it. You call it negative, I call it reality... the last decade or greater has been a dumpster fire.
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Jesus dude. Calm down. You're an emotional wreck.
 
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SpringBokVol said:
My thoughts:

UT has done everything they can and should do to try and get Gruden. I think in the end he doesn't want to coach or coach here at UT. But it won't be for lack of effort or money on UT's part.

Coach Jones will coach longer than anyone wants him to this year - he already has - I keep saying this and no one really listens (that's okay).

Butch is absolutely done - he will not coach in 2018 for UT. But the timing of when this will be announced is not known.

I think our best program changing hire with the most potential upside is Scott Frost.

I hope this is who we end up with as he will redefine and reshape our culture into winning football - snatching the souls of our opponents and crushing their hopes and dreams.
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You had me at snatching souls and crushing dreams.
 
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Mike4Vols said:
Lol. LWS is the biggest Debbie Downer on the forum. He's right some of the time --- but not all the time. Taking his word for gospel is as dangerous as MIT beaver or some of the other folks.

Hell, I just get tired of hearing his negative stance on everything.
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He's built hundreds of contacts over the years within the AD. He's not right on everything, but he's right a lot more than he's wrong.
 
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tvolsfan said:
I don’t see Frost turning down both Florida and Nebraska for Tennessee.
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Texas paid Strong $5m to start and we paid Butch $2.95m to start. I don't see any big east (AAC) coaches getting above the Texas numbers for an offer and more likely the offers would be in the $3.5-4m range. Justin Fuente got an initial salary of $3.2m to go to Va Tech.

LWS has said money is not an object for someone like Gruden but for everyone else we will not pay above market value.
 
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vol2002 said:
I will confess I find this whole process incredibly discouraging. Throughout the whole Butch era, I thought in the back of mind that if Butch failed we’d go big like Bama and Michigan to rescue the program from obscurity.

Sounds like we are trying to but can’t get the big splash hire.

Seems typical of all things UT sports related these days. First and goal and can’t get it in the end zone.

I’m leaning towards think Currie lands Bobo and tries to tell us it’s a homerun. Or tries to sell us on one more year for Butch to fix things.

I need a glimmer or ray of hope.
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Guys, we still have a current head coach....not sure what all you want done or announced before he is let go. Things will happen once he is gone, we are in a very good position to make a good/great hire.
 
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#724
A lot of testosterone flying around in here today, myself included. This is going to be a longgg coaching search.
 
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