Recruiting Forum Football Talk XLIX

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He is not universally hated by his fanbase. Read a message board over there.

I grew up in Raleigh. I’d rather talk to my friends who are lifelong pack fans and alumni. You are right, not universally hated but not loved either. My good friend is the biggest pack fan you will ever meet and played football at NCSU, he laughed and told me “Doeren will never work at UT.” He thought it was better to let him walk because he wasn’t worth fighting over. Tells me all I need to know.
 
Our rivals are going out and making slam dunk hires while our program (Haslam) wants to make the worst hire possible. But why? ? Why is he doing this and why the hell is Peyton helping him?

It’s unbelievable. Mississippi State just made a far superior hire than Doeren would be. Our administration doesn’t care about winning. They know the fans will show up no matter what so why pay big money on a coach who will win and who they can’t control?
 
Co-sign. That’s why Fulmer was such a terrible hire.

Edit: I get your point and actually agree, but if Doeren is the guy, it can still work out and we need to support him.

Have fun with that. Bet we didn't hear that the last couple go arounds. Let me fast forward 3 years.... 5-6 heading to candy... " this is utterly pathetic, fire him now! Just bring fulmer in to coach and get us to a bowl and lets go get Tee!"
 
Unless we are waiting on a coach that is working this weekend, it appears Chad Morris is the best option available, assuming A and M doesnt offer him.

I would beg Morris to come right no to keep Doeren from coming. At least he would be exciting. Doeren would suck and be boring.
 
It’s unbelievable. Mississippi State just made a far superior hire than Doeren would be. Our administration doesn’t care about winning. They know the fans will show up no matter what so why pay big money on a coach who will win and who they can’t control?

Prediction.

If NC State has a coaching opening, they will get a much better coach than UT.

They will upgrade and we will downgrade.
 
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Is Doeren the right fit?

“Not in the eyes of fans. He's a defensive minded coach. He's a tough minded guy who isn't about cliches.

Some people say he's a good coach. Others are surprised that this is where Tennessee is at”

-Hubbs

Just say it Hubbs. Just say that you're not happy with this garbage. It's ok to be critical when it's warranted.
 
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Answer seems simple to me. Hire Fulmer as interim coach. Wait till the NFL season ends and see if anyone’s available they can take our program to the next level. If not, ride with Phil until next year and make quality hire not a rushed one.

It does seem simple, but Bahama John doesn’t like the idea because Haslam won’t agree.
 
Open invitation to all. Quote this post and let’s get a running list going.

Name the things we should be excited about if Dave Doeren is named our next head coach.
 
Co-sign. That’s why Fulmer was such a terrible hire.

Edit: I get your point and actually agree, but if Doeren is the guy, it can still work out and we need to support him.

Nah. Fans dont have to... but that's not the source of our displeasure. I'm not talkin bout coaches here..

Need to "to cut the head off the snake" so to speak.
 
Co-sign. That’s why Fulmer was such a terrible hire.

Edit: I get your point and actually agree, but if Doeren is the guy, it can still work out and we need to support him.

I'm just telling you why we've only been relevant for catchphrases that don't make sense the last 10 years. And I don't *need* to support anyone. Just win games.
 
Open invitation to all. Quote this post and let’s get a running list going.

Name the things we should be excited about if Dave Doeren is named our next head coach.

I tried earlier with a couple things:

1. Similar track record as Saban when Saban went from MSU to LSU
2. Led NCSU to their most ACC wins in 23 seasons.
 
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He’s not even hated by most. From what I can tell, maybe not even many. You said “universally “ just to make a point, but it’s not close to true. That kind of negativity needs to stop if we hire the guy. Creating a false negative narrative about your own coach is Bahama John level stupid.

From what you can tell? From reading a few posts on their message board?

I know several athletes, 1 current, several former (within the last 7 years) who are NCST alum. Several different sports, not just football. He is not liked by many people at all on that campus and especially within the AD. He is a jerk who rubs everyone the wrong way. I’ve reached out to gauge what they and others within that department think, and it’s not positive. There’s a reason they wouldn’t be mad if he came to UT.

But tell me again how I’m building a “false narrative” because you googled a couple quotes on a message board.

Take a lap
 
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And by the way UT Admin.....This is why you hire a search firm and let CBJ finish the season. Fire him after the Vandy game and announce new coach the Sunday after Vandy. Idiots.
 
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