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This all sounds like we had frost or wanted him and now in scramble mode due to Florida not getting Kelly...just my conspiracy
 
I have sung Debo’s praises for a long time. CBJ would still be coaching if Debo stayed.

I was always worried about shoop. Took a beating on this board for it.

judging by the comments made by the players last night, it appears they didn't buy in and now realize the error in that. No matter how good of a system or how bad, not buying in is bound to result in this year's performance.

in b4 blah blah coaches job to Conover the players blah blah.

I really don't know how to fully judge this staff. mistakes were made all around.
 
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With what he did at Toledo and just having experience as a Power 5 HC, Campbell has a more proven track record than Dooley did, but I get the concern. He could end up being a really good hire, but on the front end he would be a big let-down after all the rumors about bigger names.

His track record is a mixture of Butch and Dooley with a two upsets sprinkled in.
 
I just go back and think how razor thin the margins of making a successful hire are.

Think about Bama. If Rich Rod doesn’t bail at last minute, Bama never goes on their historical run with Saban.
 
Campbell hired at 4mil per year saves a bunch of money even with the buyout.

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I can get on board with Campbell. His success at Toledo then two top 10 wins at Iowa State. Has background coaching OLine.

I would ride with that hire if we struck out on Gruden and Petersen.
 
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How does paying Campbell 4 plus 2 per year for buyout x 4.5 years equal saving money?

6 million per year gets a hell of a coach
 
How does paying Campbell 4 plus 2 per year for buyout x 4.5 years equal saving money?

6 million per year gets a hell of a coach

Who? We have been trying. It’s rarely all about money anymore for these guys ornwe would trot Petersen Franklin or another guy out. You rarely see power 5 coaches sign with other power 5 teams.
 
How does paying Campbell 4 plus 2 per year for buyout x 4.5 years equal saving money?

6 million per year gets a hell of a coach

According to most on this board we are a second rate program who couldn’t hire anyone for any amount of money.
 
Who? We have been trying. It’s rarely all about money anymore for these guys ornwe would trot Petersen Franklin or another guy out. You rarely see power 5 coaches sign with other power 5 teams.

Precisely. Coaching searches aren't just about money anymore. They're about perks (control) and situation. UT is in bad shape right now. It's looking like a rebuild job. Most desirable P5 coaches are just in better situations.
 
His track record is a mixture of Butch and Dooley with a two upsets sprinkled in.

Except those two never sniffed top 5 upsets at lesser schools. Never played to the success that he had as a player. Never were successful Coordinators like he was. Campbell is a better x and o coach than those two.
 
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I just go back and think how razor thin the margins of making a successful hire are.

Think about Bama. If Rich Rod doesn’t bail at last minute, Bama never goes on their historical run with Saban.

Agree. Timing is huge in making the right hire. And vision. By all accounts we could have had Patterson in 2008 but we picked kiffin because he was more exciting.

This go I am worried we had this all figured out (excitement again) around the Missouri game but now there are more jobs open than we planned. We are competing with other SEC and non-SEC jobs and now our plan may have fallen apart.
 
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